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    it's official EURO 2020 becomes EURO 2021

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    7 year ban and I'm still in the Soccer thread openings. Feelsgoodman
    lol damn welcome back.
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    Newcastle offering 100m for Coutinho.

    What's 100m to 300b?

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    Newcastle offering 100m for Coutinho.

    What's 100m to 300b?

    Fuk FFP.
    I can hardly believe it. Supported Newcastle since 2004, including both Championship campaigns. Watched as we squabbled over piddly transfer sums and bought players on the cheap and sold for profit (like Sissoko) without any reinvestment.

    They are now the richest sports team in the fukkin world. lmao
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    this is a documentary made by the Dutch television network years ago, I remember seeing it back in the day and it's really an awesome watch, this is what football is all about

    they just posted it again on the youtube channel, just skip the intro and most after that is in English

    it's basically the story of Exeter City and Swansea City that are fighting to avoid relegation to the amateur divisions in 2003, and after they also revisit them 3 years later

    some real raw football culture here brahs

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    Didn't watch the games but got money on Bayern Munich tomorrow. Anyone watch them today? What was it like without spectators? Anyone hug celebrating a goal? Were they all in masks? Is VAR still being used?
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    Originally Posted by hoganrulz View Post
    What was it like without spectators?
    it wasn't as bad as I had feared tbh, might just be the result of the football draught that I'm just easy to please atm

    it will start to disappoint after a couple of games though imo

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    Anyone hug celebrating a goal?
    didn't see one today but I don't think you can stop that from happening lol

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    Were they all in masks?
    players on the pitch and coach don't wear a mask, all other do as far as I could tell

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    Is VAR still being used?
    yes, Freibrug scored 1-2 against Leipzig at the end of the game but it was disallowed by VAR for offside
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    how come this thread is so dead?

    biggest game in the Bundesliga (and the world atm) being played as we speak

    a Dortmund win would really open everything up again

    if Leipzig, Leverkussen and Gladbach can win their matches (not impossible) we could get 5 teams within 6 points

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    Originally Posted by TokenV View Post
    how come this thread is so dead?

    biggest game in the Bundesliga (and the world atm) being played as we speak

    a Dortmund win would really open everything up again

    if Leipzig, Leverkussen and Gladbach can win their matches (not impossible) we could get 5 teams within 6 points

    jetzt geht's los
    I think things are just weird right now. Maybe it hasn't set in that there's some football going on. It's just not the same feeling. I mean think about it. Liverpool should be being crowned champions right now. Sports are a big part of culture and are very seasonal. And like the weather, it's almost something we can feel. So things are out of whack. It's tough to get excited for merely one league returning.

    Also, a lot of this thread doesn't follow Bundesliga closely. The main leagues haven't started back up yet.
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    Originally Posted by GarthVader View Post
    Also, a lot of this thread doesn't follow Bundesliga closely. The main leagues haven't started back up yet.
    Bundesliga isn't a main league?



    also: 0-1 for Bayern, suspense is pretty much gone now unfortunately
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    Originally Posted by TokenV View Post
    Bundesliga isn't a main league?



    also: 0-1 for Bayern, suspense is pretty much gone now unfortunately
    You know what I mean. EPL and La Liga >>> all others. No one truly cares about Bundesliga when Bayern wins it every single year. At least with La Liga it's a 2 horse race. I'm not chitting on the league. Just saying it's definitely not the most popular league.
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    Originally Posted by GarthVader View Post
    You know what I mean. EPL and La Liga >>> all others. No one truly cares about Bundesliga when Bayern wins it every single year. At least with La Liga it's a 2 horse race. I'm not chitting on the league. Just saying it's definitely not the most popular league.
    agreed on Premier League being the biggest (not my favorite though) but does anyone honestly care that much about La Liga?

    I understand the "fans" of Barca and Real are exited for the Champions League and the Classico but in La Liga the gap between the top 2/3 teams and the rest is just too big to really captivate while in Bundesliga it's a much tighter race when looking at the entire league

    admittedly the last years it has been pretty bland for the title since Bayern is just too strong but for the European spots and relegation (Hamburg!!!) it has always been extremely exiting since all other teams are worth eachother basically

    also the football culture in Germany is the best in the world imo with the fan participation (50 + 1 principle), big stadiums and crowd, all tradition clubs (bar Leipzig) and also the level of play is excellent
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    Originally Posted by TokenV View Post
    agreed on Premier League being the biggest (not my favorite though) but does anyone honestly care that much about La Liga?

    I understand the "fans" of Barca and Real are exited for the Champions League and the Classico but in La Liga the gap between the top 2/3 teams and the rest is just too big to really captivate while in Bundesliga it's a much tighter race when looking at the entire league

    admittedly the last years it has been pretty bland for the title since Bayern is just too strong but for the European spots and relegation (Hamburg!!!) it has always been extremely exiting since all other teams are worth eachother basically

    also the football culture in Germany is the best in the world imo with the fan participation (50 + 1 principle), big stadiums and crowd, all tradition clubs (bar Leipzig) and also the level of play is excellent
    This.

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    2.) La Liga (2 hourse race plus Athletico)
    3.) Siera A We all know Juventus will almost win every year but we have had some damn good teams outside of Juventus such as AC Milan coached by Carlo and treble winning Inter Milan
    4.) Bundesliga (Bayern win every year dortmund come close except for when Wolfsburg had dzeko and grafite and went absolute ham. Most underrated striker combination of all time. They were surreal)
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    agreed on Premier League being the biggest (not my favorite though) but does anyone honestly care that much about La Liga?

    I understand the "fans" of Barca and Real are exited for the Champions League and the Classico but in La Liga the gap between the top 2/3 teams and the rest is just too big to really captivate while in Bundesliga it's a much tighter race when looking at the entire league

    admittedly the last years it has been pretty bland for the title since Bayern is just too strong but for the European spots and relegation (Hamburg!!!) it has always been extremely exiting since all other teams are worth eachother basically

    also the football culture in Germany is the best in the world imo with the fan participation (50 + 1 principle), big stadiums and crowd, all tradition clubs (bar Leipzig) and also the level of play is excellent
    I agree completely. La Liga isn't exciting it all. It just seems more popular because of the huge fan base of Real and Barca and the ginormous superstar status of Ronaldo and Messi. I lived in Germany for 8 years. I loved the football culture there. I was there during the 2006 WC. Amazing time! I used to attend my local village matches and once went to a friendly between Liverpool and Kaiserslautern. Amazing time!
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    how come this thread is so dead?

    biggest game in the Bundesliga (and the world atm) being played as we speak

    a Dortmund win would really open everything up again

    if Leipzig, Leverkussen and Gladbach can win their matches (not impossible) we could get 5 teams within 6 points

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    Football world has been totally disrupted. I haven't even read news. I'm just assuming everything is still shut.

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    Originally Posted by GarthVader View Post
    La Liga isn't exciting it all.
    u wot m8?

    La Liga clubs play the best quality football and have the best #1-3 clubs (arguably #1-4) of any league in the world. Just look at the results in Champions League and Europa League, La Liga teams are MUCH better than the equivalent placed teams in any league. The league is more competitive at the top year in, year out, then other leagues. Liverpool have a 25point lead in the EPL but La Liga isn't exciting?? strong logic.

    Premier league MIGHT be overall #1-20 better but that's pretty subjective (since you'll never see Bournemouth vs. Real Vallodolid) and it's only perceived that way because EPL have much more money overall as a league. If the mid-tier La Liga clubs (i.e. Villareal) had the budget of a mid-tier EPL club (i.e. Everton) it would be a more reasonable comparison.
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    Originally Posted by textgod View Post
    u wot m8?

    La Liga clubs play the best quality football and have the best #1-3 clubs (arguably #1-4) of any league in the world. Just look at the results in Champions League and Europa League, La Liga teams are MUCH better than the equivalent placed teams in any league. The league is more competitive at the top year in, year out, then other leagues. Liverpool have a 25point lead in the EPL but La Liga isn't exciting?? strong logic.

    Premier league MIGHT be overall #1-20 better but that's pretty subjective (since you'll never see Bournemouth vs. Real Vallodolid) and it's only perceived that way because EPL have much more money overall as a league. If the mid-tier La Liga clubs (i.e. Villareal) had the budget of a mid-tier EPL club (i.e. Everton) it would be a more reasonable comparison.
    the problem with La Liga is that the gap between the top and the rest is disproportionately big, the last 7 years top-3 consisting out of the same 3 teams says it all really
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    Originally Posted by textgod View Post
    u wot m8?

    La Liga clubs play the best quality football and have the best #1-3 clubs (arguably #1-4) of any league in the world. Just look at the results in Champions League and Europa League, La Liga teams are MUCH better than the equivalent placed teams in any league. The league is more competitive at the top year in, year out, then other leagues. Liverpool have a 25point lead in the EPL but La Liga isn't exciting?? strong logic.

    Premier league MIGHT be overall #1-20 better but that's pretty subjective (since you'll never see Bournemouth vs. Real Vallodolid) and it's only perceived that way because EPL have much more money overall as a league. If the mid-tier La Liga clubs (i.e. Villareal) had the budget of a mid-tier EPL club (i.e. Everton) it would be a more reasonable comparison.
    We've had this tired argument before. I'm not talking about quality of League A clubs vs League B clubs. I'm talking about the title race. I disagree that it's more competitive at the top. You know who's going to win it every season. It's either gonna be Real or Barca. Once in a while, Athletico may make a run and they're normally guaranteed a CL spot but overall, the title race isn't really that exciting.

    Bundesliga is the usually worse. It's normally Dortmund and Bayern fighting it out but eventually, Bayern buys all of Dortmund's best players and it becomes a one horse race.

    Serie A is always a one horse race. Juve run away with it.

    In the EPL, this year is an anomaly. Liverpool have been on an amazing run. Some will say it's because the EPL is not that good but that same argument is used year after year to chit on La Liga because Barca and Real just run through the league. Maybe it speaks to how insanely good the clubs are. Or maybe both are a little bit true. Perhaps the Prem is not having a good season as a whole while Liverpool are a top team in Europe. This is what makes interleague matches so exciting.

    But my overall point was that one league that, tbh, isn't among the most popular returning to play matches isn't enough to get us all fired up again. Combined with the massive disruption this crap has caused, it's not as exciting. We should be gearing up for the Euros!

    Once EPL and La Liga start playing again, there will be more excitement in this thread. Still gonna be a bit tempered tho
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    Originally Posted by TokenV
    the problem with La Liga is that the gap between the top and the rest is disproportionately big, the last 7 years top-3 consisting out of the same 3 teams says it all really
    you can say that about any league and others are even worse (Lique 1- PSG, SerieA- Juve, Bundesliga- Bayern, etc..) and that is because of TV money distribution heavily favoring the biggest clubs.

    The difference is, when it comes to European competition (UCL+UEL), La Liga clubs fare better than other leagues, and not just the "big 3" (see- Sevilla). Add to that the quality of actual football being played by every club makes it an exciting league to watch. If you based a leagues excitement only on the title race, very few fans in the world would be "excited" since the biggest clubs always win the titles, including the EPL.

    Originally Posted by GarthVader View Post
    But my overall point was that one league that, tbh, isn't among the most popular returning to play matches isn't enough to get us all fired up again. Combined with the massive disruption this crap has caused, it's not as exciting. We should be gearing up for the Euros!
    agreed on that point, and i was honestly just trying to kick up some debate since the thread was dead and when you said "La Liga isn't exciting" that was just some fodder for fire.

    we all ready for some football!
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    you can say that about any league and others are even worse (Lique 1- PSG, SerieA- Juve, Bundesliga- Bayern, etc..) and that is because of TV money distribution heavily favoring the biggest clubs.

    The difference is, when it comes to European competition (UCL+UEL), La Liga clubs fare better than other leagues, and not just the "big 3" (see- Sevilla). Add to that the quality of actual football being played by every club makes it an exciting league to watch. If you based a leagues excitement only on the title race, very few fans in the world would be "excited" since the biggest clubs always win the titles, including the EPL.
    true, and that's what makes the Leicester, Wolfsburg, Deportivo, Montpellier, ... runs so beautiful

    these are the championships you really watched in awe, while most other seasons you have to get your "fix" from something else and at this point I'll admit I'm biased af towards Bundesliga

    with exageration there are leagues where you have the top teams and the rest are scrubs, in Bundesliga you have Bayern and 17 equally strong others and that's what makes it exiting imo

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    Originally Posted by TokenV View Post
    agreed on Premier League being the biggest (not my favorite though) but does anyone honestly care that much about La Liga?

    I understand the "fans" of Barca and Real are exited for the Champions League and the Classico but in La Liga the gap between the top 2/3 teams and the rest is just too big to really captivate while in Bundesliga it's a much tighter race when looking at the entire league

    admittedly the last years it has been pretty bland for the title since Bayern is just too strong but for the European spots and relegation (Hamburg!!!) it has always been extremely exiting since all other teams are worth eachother basically

    also the football culture in Germany is the best in the world imo with the fan participation (50 + 1 principle), big stadiums and crowd, all tradition clubs (bar Leipzig) and also the level of play is excellent
    Yes, not everyone is a pure EPL fanboy.

    Btw there was a point where Spanish teams besides Barca/RM were beating all the top English clubs in UCL...Sometimes EPL fans need a good humbling.

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