***Official Football (Soccer) Thread: All leagues and competitions Part 39***

[Rai9]

If Messi stays... man that would suck. I got real excited he could play elsewhere. As long as it's not City (or Liverpool) I'm excited about it.

[Brad_Pitt]

1) defender with a low block and play long balls to hit on the counter - Watford beating Liverpool?

2) match them and outwork them/make less mistakes - Atletico beating Liverpool?

3) back yourself to play out from the back and deal with the pressure to take control of the game - City beating Liverpool post lockdown?

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good examples?

[ButcherSir]

looked like cristiano 100th national team goal is gonna wait. he got a minor injury and good chances he wont play vs croatia and sweden

[LukeS1]

good examples?

1) yes kinda, but Mourinho is the best example of it happening at a top level. particularly Inter 2010

2) Not really, they were more 1 but not playing out with long balls so much. You wont ever see 2 teams go all out high line pressing for 90 mins, you might get 10-15 mins at the start of it but one of the two will naturally settle into sitting back as they cant maintain the intensitity

3) yes, its rare anyone is successful with this style but City at points and Pep's Barca were

[Brad_Pitt]

If Messi stays... man that would suck. I got real excited he could play elsewhere. As long as it's not City (or Liverpool) I'm excited about it.

Barca are ruthless keeping him there with that technicality on the free transfer.

Messi will be the consummate professional but it will be sad seeing him in a shell of a team. Who is even going to play striker? Braithwaith? Fuking hell.

[mandarino]

So he is staying. Says 700mil is impossible to pay. he loves barca and would never take them to court.

inb4 peeps itt call him out on that lmao


will be interesting to see what version of messi shows up this season. I mean individually he will be his usual self probably but as a team who knows.

[Kaliconic]

Barcelona don't deserve Messi at all. It's stupid that they get to keep him on a technicality which obviously goes against the spirit of the contract that should have allowed him to leave on a free transfer. I can't believe they are forcing him to stay after all he's done for them. If I were a top player I would want to stay away from Barcelona after seeing how they are treating their best ever player.

Now at age 33 Messi has to waste another year there. Barcelona has to desperately hope they somehow have a great season and that convinces him to stay.

[TokenV]

disgusted by Barcelona tbh, this is not how you treat the best player you ever had and gave you everything

hoping they get cucked HARD next year

[LukeS1]

Barca are being *******s to a club legend, terrible

Messi should have never let this come out in public though, the atmosphere in the club must be at an all time low.

[mandarino]

Barca are being *******s to a club legend, terrible

Messi should have never let this come out in public though, the atmosphere in the club must be at an all time low.

All he did was send a fax. I doubt he spoke to everyone far and wide. You got an anti Messi fetish brah

Stuff like this is bound to get leaked, like all other big news.

[LukeS1]

I wish more clubs were like Ajax. If there stars want to move on they let them go at the first reasonable offer and wish them well

It means they attract the best young talents from all around because they know they will get playing time, good coaching and can leave whenever they want. It pays off in the long term

[LukeS1]

All he did was send a fax. I doubt he spoke to everyone far and wide. You got an anti Messi fetish brah

Stuff like this is bound to get leaked, like all other big news.

Should have been a private chat with him and the president, with his agent thats all

Loads of times this happens and we only find out years later in books

[viennafat]

This is going to be one awkward season at Barca.

[TokenV]

Should have been a private chat with him and the president, with his agent thats all

Loads of times this happens and we only find out years later in books

you need to have an official document though, and this was leaked

otherwise it might have been handled behind the scenes

[LukeS1]

you need to have an official document though, and this was leaked

otherwise it might have been handled behind the scenes

To trigger the clause and make it official yeh, but he shouldnt have awared the president/manager via a fax.

Go in there and have a private conversation, if he says he wont accept it think hard about putting in the official written request, but this approach makes it less likely they so no anyway

[mandarino]

To trigger the clause and make it official yeh, but he shouldnt have awared the president/manager via a fax.

Go in there and have a private conversation, if he says he wont accept it think hard about putting in the official written request, but this approach makes it less likely they so no anyway

President is not the only dude at the club and i doubt he has the knowledge or authority on the matter to just flat out say no.

He didnt fax the document to the front desk secretary or the press id imagine, but the proper department that deals with that chit

[TokenV]

ayyyyyy Robben scoring his first goal for Groningen since 2002 lol (in a friendly though)

https://twitter.com/FOXSportsnl/stat...94078840950785

[LukeS1]

President is not the only dude at the club and i doubt he has the knowledge or authority on the matter to just flat out say no.

He didnt fax the document to the front desk secretary or the press id imagine, but the proper department that deals with that chit

Theres always going to be a leak once it goes into writing like that. Messi would have had help drafting it from agents, advisers and lawyers, it would have been received by a PA and then shared with advisers and lawyers

I just think Messi should have gone in man to man, had a conversation and worked it out before putting the formal note in

[LukeS1]

So it seems like Messi is a definite to leave next summer. Will be interesting to see if he starts to decline now. Will be 34 before next season, surely the speed, acceleration and agility starts to fade soon, making him more of a playmaker. I can't see him still being able to dribble past 4-5 players in a row for much longer

[LukeS1]

City
Liverpool
United
Chelsea
Arsenal
Spurs
Barcalona

All these teams could do with/are looking for a top class CB but there just isnt enough around right now. I think thats why De Ligt went for such crazy money, there is a lack of top class, defensively sound defenders. Guys like Upamecano and Gabriel are getting attention, but they are just the best of a bad bunch. Laporte, VVD, and maybe Alaba if he stays consistent are the only world class CBs under the age of 30 right now. Varane relies on his athleticism, but doesn't have the instincts or positional sense to be in that bracket.

[DonaldTerrell]

What do you think guys how will be FC Bayern performing next season?Will they able to maintain such a playing style?

[ShonSmith]

And what about Messi playing next season in Barcelona?

[LukeS1]

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[ButcherSir]

thats my goat

[TokenV]

thats my goat

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100 international goals, that's crazy

only Ali Daei has more (109) of which 8 vs Maldives, 8 vs Laos, 6 vs Lebanon, 5 vs Sri Lanka, 5 vs Nepal, ...

for those interested: Messi has 70

[LukeS1]

100 international goals, that's crazy

only Ali Daei has more (109) of which 8 vs Maldives, 8 vs Laos, 6 vs Lebanon, 5 vs Sri Lanka, 5 vs Nepal, ...

for those interested: Messi has 70

12 goals off Pele, 50 goals to offically be the top scorer in the history of the sport

[LukeS1]

100 international goals, that's crazy

only Ali Daei has more (109) of which 8 vs Maldives, 8 vs Laos, 6 vs Lebanon, 5 vs Sri Lanka, 5 vs Nepal, ...

for those interested: Messi has 70

All worth noting CR7 has 83 competitve international goals (83%), for comparison;


Messi 36 goals in competitive games (51%)


Neymar 19 Competitive goals (31%)

BEWARE OF INTERNATIONAL FRIENDLY STAT PADDERS. CR7 has sat out a lot of recent friendlies to avoid pointless minutes/risk injury

[mandarino]

Ronaldo hitting 100 is epic. But doesnt he pump up lithuania or some chit regularly?

I hope he kills that iranian guys record

[LukeS1]

Ronaldo hitting 100 is epic. But doesnt he pump up lithuania or some chit regularly?

I hope he kills that iranian guys record

All players face some trash international sides, just the nature of it

Being in Europe in this era is probably about as tough as u can get though

[mandarino]

All players face some trash international sides, just the nature of it

Being in Europe in this era is probably about as tough as u can get though

Not to get into that debate. But south america is a tougher continent to score on.

I mean theres a reason they reformated the current nations league in europe, keeps the top 12 teams in group a and the rest go through contant relegation/promotion