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    BCAA good for me?

    I was thinking of adding BCAA before my workout.I train early in the morning(7AM) and after that i go straight to work and by the time i get home i feel exhausted.BCAA improve recovery so i thought that i might feel better if i take some.
    I already bought a product and i want to try it to see how i feel.

    During my workout i usually drink some whey mixed with oats and 3grams of creatine.Is it ok for me to take some bcaa 15-30 mins before workout?`

    The product that i bought has 90 tablets(270 grams) and it is supposed to be 15 servings, 6 tablet each serving.Should i take 6 tablets each day?
    How should i take them?
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    If you're consuming whey protein before or during your workout BCAAs are especially useless, this is exacerbated by the fact that tablet BCAAs usually have very low doses.
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    If you plan on using BCAAs I would recommend a powder over a tablet
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    I've personally never really seen much benefits from BCAA in terms of recovery. My nutrition and making sure i'm getting some decent sleep has benefited me more vs a BCAA product.
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    Save your money, just make sure you're getting enough protein throughout the day
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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    I've personally never really seen much benefits from BCAA in terms of recovery. My nutrition and making sure i'm getting some decent sleep has benefited me more vs a BCAA product.

    Originally Posted by bLinkMoore View Post
    Save your money, just make sure you're getting enough protein throughout the day

    Do both of you notice recovery benefits from protein?
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Do both of you notice recovery benefits from protein?
    About as much as adding only water to my radiator and no anti-freeze. Or washing my car with only water and no soap....

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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    About as much as adding only water to my radiator and no anti-freeze. Or washing my car with only water and no soap....

    Half the equation is never the solution.
    That response really makes me wonder about your commitment
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    I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...

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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    That response really makes me wonder about your commitment
    This response makes me feel like you're still trolling.
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    Originally Posted by Cristian000 View Post
    During my workout i usually drink some whey mixed with oats
    Dude, NOBODY does this. If you are able to process and digest protein and complex carbs WHILE you work out...then you aren’t working out hard enough.

    Time to do some research on when and what to consume pre/post/and intra workout.
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    Exercising in the morning, I used Amino X - it have taurine which is good enough invigorated me.
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    BCAA’s are only beneficial if your eating habits are garbage, in which case BCAA’s can help keep the muscle. Just keep putting good food in your face and you’ll be fine.
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    Originally Posted by MJensen7 View Post
    BCAA’s are only beneficial if your eating habits are garbage, in which case BCAA’s can help keep the muscle. Just keep putting good food in your face and you’ll be fine.
    If your overall eating habits are garbage and you're not meeting your macros, then you're doing this whole body comp goal thing wrong and it doesn't matter anyway.
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    I'm sure if you eat a diet strictly in Cheetos, decide to fast for 24 hours, then go ham on a workout, they would have a potential benefit.
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    Bit pointless unless you are trying to lose weight while maintaining muscle. The way I see it BCAA is in milk, and milk has the bonus carbs/fat for the bulk making bcaa redundant. Better off eating real food
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    Originally Posted by puvindran View Post
    Bcaa as intraworkout and protein shake as post workout
    no.

    Originally Posted by IAmEdible View Post
    Bit pointless unless you are trying to lose weight while maintaining muscle. The way I see it BCAA is in milk, and milk has the bonus carbs/fat for the bulk making bcaa redundant. Better off eating real food
    Also no.
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    I'm sure if you eat a diet strictly in Cheetos, decide to fast for 24 hours, then go ham on a workout, they would have a potential benefit.
    Fasted is by far the worst time to take them. Wolfe (2017) showed that they raise muscle protein breakdown above MPS when fasted.
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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    no.


    Also no.


    Fasted is by far the worst time to take them. Wolfe (2017) showed that they raise muscle protein breakdown above MPS when fasted.
    Muscle protein breakdown, lol
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Muscle protein breakdown, lol
    'An extensive search of the literature has revealed no studies in human subjects in which the response of muscle protein synthesis to orally-ingested BCAAs alone was quantified, and only two studies in which the effect of intravenously infused BCAAs alone was assessed. Both of these intravenous infusion studies found that BCAAs decreased muscle protein synthesis [in the post-absorptive state] as well as increased protein breakdown, meaning a decrease in muscle protein turnover. The catabolic state in which the rate of muscle protein breakdown exceeded the rate of muscle protein synthesis persisted during BCAA infusion."

    Wolfe, Branched-chain amino acids and muscle protein synthesis in humans: myth or reality? Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition (2017) 14:30 DOI 10.1186/s12970-017-0184-9
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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    'An extensive search of the literature has revealed no studies in human subjects in which the response of muscle protein synthesis to orally-ingested BCAAs alone was quantified, and only two studies in which the effect of intravenously infused BCAAs alone was assessed. Both of these intravenous infusion studies found that BCAAs decreased muscle protein synthesis [in the post-absorptive state] as well as increased protein breakdown, meaning a decrease in muscle protein turnover. The catabolic state in which the rate of muscle protein breakdown exceeded the rate of muscle protein synthesis persisted during BCAA infusion."

    Wolfe, Branched-chain amino acids and muscle protein synthesis in humans: myth or reality? Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition (2017) 14:30 DOI 10.1186/s12970-017-0184-9
    Intravenously infused BCAAs, lol. Let's talk real-life> Gym - BCAAs/IWO - Protein shake PWO

    Try that for 60 days and report back with your findings
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Intravenously infused BCAAs, lol.
    Now i get it! That's what the guys at the gym use that i see.


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    Originally Posted by twovalvekid View Post
    Now i get it! That's what the guys at the gym use that i see.


    BRB injecting xtend right into my dink for maximum gains.
    You forgot about needing 4 hours for maximum absorption
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Intravenously infused BCAAs, lol. Let's talk real-life> Gym - BCAAs/IWO - Protein shake PWO

    Try that for 60 days and report back with your findings
    You dont seem to understand how biology works.
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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    'An extensive search of the literature has revealed no studies in human subjects in which the response of muscle protein synthesis to orally-ingested BCAAs alone was quantified, and only two studies in which the effect of intravenously infused BCAAs alone was assessed. Both of these intravenous infusion studies found that BCAAs decreased muscle protein synthesis [in the post-absorptive state] as well as increased protein breakdown, meaning a decrease in muscle protein turnover. The catabolic state in which the rate of muscle protein breakdown exceeded the rate of muscle protein synthesis persisted during BCAA infusion."

    Wolfe, Branched-chain amino acids and muscle protein synthesis in humans: myth or reality? Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition (2017) 14:30 DOI 10.1186/s12970-017-0184-9
    Fact is you can get BCAA from most foods, no benifit from isolating and drinking it by itself.
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    Originally Posted by IAmEdible View Post
    Fact is you can get BCAA from most foods, no benifit from isolating and drinking it by itself.
    There are more potential negatives from taking free form BCAAs than benefits (zero, there are zero benefits).

    But if it makes someone money they'll push it.
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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    There are more potential negatives from taking free form BCAAs than benefits (zero, there are zero benefits).

    But if it makes someone money they'll push it.
    Do you drink protein shakes rich in BCAAs?

    And have you ever met anyone one on this planet that has ever experienced any negative sides from free form BCAAs
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Do you drink protein shakes rich in BCAAs?

    And have you ever met anyone one on this planet that has ever experienced any negative sides from free form BCAAs
    I know right? All that blah blah blah when you could "just try it bro."

    Dat lack of understanding biology and correlation = causation, N=1 meaning "proof" is the issue here. Or it's just trolling per usual.
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Do you drink protein shakes rich in BCAAs?

    And have you ever met anyone one on this planet that has ever experienced any negative sides from free form BCAAs
    Substrate. Quaternary structure. Micronutrients. Zoonutrients.

    I have never met anyone that has experienced quantifiable positive effects from free-form BCAAs.
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    Originally Posted by lucia316 View Post
    I know right? All that blah blah blah when you could "just try it bro."

    Dat lack of understanding biology and correlation = causation, N=1 meaning "proof" is the issue here. Or it's just trolling per usual.
    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    Substrate. Quaternary structure. Micronutrients. Zoonutrients.

    I have never met anyone that has experienced quantifiable positive effects from free-form BCAAs.

    Keep reaching for the moon
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    Keep reaching for the moon
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