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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Posing no threat to the officer. Will he face proper murder charges? History says no. What kind of sign is this telling minorities when society clearly values their lives less than others?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/devon-bai...032549500.html
    He was also wanted for molesting a child
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    It shouldn’t work that way and it’s very dangerous to fear the people who should be keeping us safe .
    I have absolutely zero fear of police, and I don't do anything that is illegal.

    Must be a coincidence.

    Originally Posted by jimmyjabbar View Post
    That he ended having a gun is irrelevant. Before being shot, the gun never made an appearance. 'Suspecting' someone has a gun and shooting them in the back is a criminal offense, even by a cop. Kid was an azzhole, probably did do those robberies. Dont matter though; a cop who's trained that poorly couldve easily killed someone who wasnt a POS. Dude needs to be in jail
    Too many guys like you have ended up in a casket while their wives have to explain to their kids why daddy won't wake up. Cops and robbers isn't a kids game...both parties are serious about business. Don't fukk around out there...no matter how many guys whine about it from behind the safety their keyboards.

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    Typical Ari and his anti-laws dog whistling.

    When will this racist dog whistling end?


    As far as the shooting, didn't want the video. Most of the time I side with the police, really tough in situations where someone is shot in the back multiple times as they run away. I'll hold out judgement here, until we get more facts.
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    Originally Posted by jimmyjabbar View Post
    That he ended having a gun is irrelevant. Before being shot, the gun never made an appearance. 'Suspecting' someone has a gun and shooting them in the back is a criminal offense, even by a cop. Kid was an azzhole, probably did do those robberies. Dont matter though; a cop who's trained that poorly couldve easily killed someone who wasnt a POS. Dude needs to be in jail
    How is it irrelevant. If the cop believes a fleeing suspect is armed and dangerous they are allowed to KILL THEM. Turns out cop made the right call. If however, this was an INNOCENT person who was stopped and shot in the back, it would be a different story.
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    So first the family tried the "he was unarmed" thing until his cousin who was with him admitted he did have a gun.

    Here's how it went down according to the local news. Robbery call comes in. When officers arrived, the victim pointed out this guy and his cousin. When officers contact them, he runs while officers see him going for his gun and fire. They do find a gun and when Ari and the other sjw's try to claim he didn't have one, his cousin admitted he did have one. They released the body cam footage yesterday.
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    i dont like cops and im afraid of cops. ive been drawed down on twice in my life (both unwarranted, both scary as all phuck). u think i fkn moved a muscle? i quit fuking breathing, i got chit to live for.

    i think the shooting was pretty warranted. idk about CO laws but i generally think you can smoke somebody if you have reasonable suspicion they could shoot at you or anyone else.

    Originally Posted by jimmyjabbar View Post
    That he ended having a gun is irrelevant. Before being shot, the gun never made an appearance. 'Suspecting' someone has a gun and shooting them in the back is a criminal offense, even by a cop.l
    you dont know the law at all.

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    Originally Posted by jimmyjabbar View Post
    That he ended having a gun is irrelevant. Before being shot, the gun never made an appearance. 'Suspecting' someone has a gun and shooting them in the back is a criminal offense, even by a cop. Kid was an azzhole, probably did do those robberies. Dont matter though; a cop who's trained that poorly couldve easily killed someone who wasnt a POS. Dude needs to be in jail
    Maybe.

    But you know what is relevant? Someone matching the suspect of a felony with a weapon fleeing the police. It's a pretty safe bet that not only is that your suspect, but it's also your armed suspect.
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    Came in expecting a toddler on a swing set getting blown away by a cop....
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    How is this unfortunate or tragic in any way? You cucks wanted him to get away and stay alive so you can pay him to **** your wives?
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    This isn't some old west movie where the good guy lets the bad guy clear leather before shooting them.

    Reach for a gun and you get shot.
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    Originally Posted by Dan_S View Post
    Maybe.

    But you know what is relevant? Someone matching the suspect of a felony with a weapon fleeing the police. It's a pretty safe bet that not only is that your suspect, but it's also your armed suspect.
    Ya. No doubt. Dude played a stupid game. I got no sympathy for him. Just the idea that the officer didnt phuck up because the dude ended up having a gun. While im sure that dude deffo robbed what they say he robbed, this is still America. Cops cant shoot people unless there's imminent danger. A dude running away and a gun never making an appearance isnt enough to shoot to kill. Like i said, no sympathy for the dude, but the cop still needs to go to jail
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    Originally Posted by AltarOfPlagues View Post
    i dont like cops and im afraid of cops. ive been drawed down on twice in my life (both unwarranted, both scary as all phuck). u think i fkn moved a muscle? i quit fuking breathing, i got chit to live for.

    i think the shooting was pretty warranted. idk about CO laws but i generally think you can smoke somebody if you have reasonable suspicion they could shoot at you or anyone else.



    you dont know the law at all.

    at 19 you are a grown man, there's no excuse.
    lol. Someone here for sure doesnt know the law. There's very little circumstance where a cop can shoot a fleeing suspect. This aint one of them
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    Originally Posted by bobbydigitaloa View Post
    Facts aren't of value in these cases...plz.

    I like this one better.

    Bro he was just trying to drive the stolen goods home so his family could have something to eat tonight.
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    If I found out my 19 yr old armed himself to rob and threaten others, I would beat him to within an inch of his life.... but it's expected I go easy on my own kids.
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    Originally Posted by jimmyjabbar View Post
    lol. Someone here for sure doesnt know the law. There's very little circumstance where a cop can shoot a fleeing suspect. This aint one of them
    it is one of them.
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    What kind of sign is this telling minorities when society clearly values their lives less than others?
    Are we talking about abortion or gang violence?
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    Typically killing someone in self defense requires that you or someone else actually be in real danger. These are the rules you and I live by, police should be held to the same standard. We grant police tremendous power and authority and we do it (or should) because they keep us safe. It’s a bargain we make as a society. Holding police to far, far, lower standards than we hold ourselves to seems like a huge fail on that bargain.
    If someone has a gun in their hand, should officers wait for it to be pointed in their direction before firing?
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    Maybe I just like freedom more than people here do - but having an officer come up to me and start making demands without any due process and fcking shooting me in the back when I refuse isn’t my idea of liberty.
    That's what happened?
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    You missed the point.
    The question is what actions deserve instant death on the spot and what actions deserve arrest and incarceration?
    I don't know, people like you and Sillie could care less when thugs are killed and shot by other thugs. Something like this happens, and suddenly that thug is a victim/martyr....
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    If someone has a gun in their hand, should officers wait for it to be pointed in their direction before firing?
    I had a camera in my hand when a LEO threw his gun in my face... because he didn't know the difference between a camera and a gun.
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    Ya. No doubt. Dude played a stupid game. I got no sympathy for him. Just the idea that the officer didnt phuck up because the dude ended up having a gun. While im sure that dude deffo robbed what they say he robbed, this is still America. Cops cant shoot people unless there's imminent danger. A dude running away and a gun never making an appearance isnt enough to shoot to kill. Like i said, no sympathy for the dude, but the cop still needs to go to jail
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    Originally Posted by ImBunky View Post
    For those complaining about this shoot. Do something about it, join the police force in an inner city.
    Yeah right, they're literally begging people to join the department, lowering standards, etc. Thing is, nobody really wants to be a cop nowadays. Its almost like the army, they're telling 18 year olds to take the test, and they can be in the academy by the time they turn 21.

    I'm working with guys who are 21, and they either want to run and gun, or they're too scared and timid to do anything, worried that they'll get fired over any small infraction.
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    Originally Posted by acrawlingchaos View Post
    I had a camera in my hand when a LEO threw his gun in my face... because he didn't know the difference between a camera and a gun.
    Sorry that happened to you. What was the circumstance? Street stop? Traffic stop? Angry GF calling on you?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Sorry that happened to you. What was the circumstance? Street stop? Traffic stop? Angry GF calling on you?
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    Originally Posted by Dan_S View Post
    This seems like good justification if we're talking about a civilian defending themselves, but the cop is protecting society.

    This individual still posed a threat to those around him. Just because he's not a direct threat to the cop in that instant doesn't mean he should just be allowed to run off.

    You commit a felony with a deadly weapon and I think the cops are not only justified, but should be required to neutralize that threat towards everyone.
    Cops are civilians.

    Originally Posted by chalup View Post
    He just robbed someone at gunpoint. Tried to reach for the gun at the very start, and could easily have got it out and shot at cops within seconds. What world do you live in that he didn’t pose a threat?
    He didn't pose a threat. He was running away.

    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    You should have no fear for your life when attempting to detain a reported ARMED robbery suspect as they begin to disobey lawful orders?

    Take the bias shades off breh.
    Not biased here, bruh. I disagree with Ari on basically every single issue imaginable. I happen to think this is a bad precedent to set where police are shooting people that don't pose a direct threat.

    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    But you said he should get the death penalty. That sure sounds like a legal opinion unless you think people should be able to get the death penalty without breaking any laws. If that's the case, then, well, I don't know how to respond.
    I can't be of the opinion that someone deserves to be put to death over something they did that I think is wrong???

    Originally Posted by homersexual View Post
    Next time one of these scumbags run from the cops I hope they come across one of your family members and uses them as a human shield in the ensuing shootout. Maybe you'll think differently afterwards about fleeing armed suspects not being a danger to others.
    Didn't say he wasn't a danger to others, and that doesn't happen to be how we settle things in America in general. We don't take people that we think are dangers to society and summarily shoot them in the back. If we did, I assure you I wouldn't think it was right, and making something personal to me or my family doesn't change my opinion in the least. It's pretty sad that you would hope that my family would be used as a human shield during a shootout.
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    Originally Posted by AltarOfPlagues View Post
    ill tell u mine

    i got drawed down on a quarter mile inside my own property by a county deputy because he had a report of automatic weapon fire in the heat of dove season (not a state game warden, a regular cop). he spend 20 minutes inspecting my benelli to determine that it was in fact a semi automatic shotgun. the other time two forest service rangers patted me down whilst holding a gun on me an hour from the nearest paved road thinkin i had drugs or something. i was hiking alone.

    in retrospect, the second event, when they were questioning me i was standing still but i was lightly feeling my pockets. in both these events i was totally law abiding and the cops were absolute butholes, stepping on my answers to their questions, being very verbally aggressive. to their credit i have a punchable face.

    guess what the fuk i wasnt about to do? run and grab at my waistband.
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