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    Originally Posted by GiveHerBills View Post
    How many times has Dak thrown for 30 TDs again? The dude hasn’t even hit 25.

    Dak and Trubisky have both been elevated by strong rosters around them. Paying either of them upwards of $30m would be retarded.

    Why don’t you go talk about them dirty bird Kyle Shanahan defenses some more you fukking SCRUB.
    Uh huh.

    And how's Cousins against winning teams?

    Cases can be made for either guy, dumb ass.


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    Originally Posted by niospecv View Post
    If you're a Trubisky fan then you have no place to say chit. He's a 2nd overall pick and has stats similar to Prescott, a 4th rounder.

    Dude you have to get over the stupidity of draft capital.

    Who cares where the guys were drafted.

    You're either good enough to see multiple contracts or you aren't.
    Nobody gives a **** about Trubisky's draft position vs. Prescott but you.

    At the end of the day Prescott's good enough to get his 2nd contract and you'd have to be an idiot to think Trubisky won't.

    Draft capital is stupid because how many first round picks even make it to their second contract?

    How many get three contracts?

    Your draft position has no bearing on how successful you'll be.

    Great Prescott was a gem from the later rounds, doesn't mean people should expect less from him.

    The guy's under the same scrutiny as a ant QB.

    Like because Tom Brady was almost Mr. Irrelevant people shouldn't expect acSB appearance?

    The bar's already set, there's no falling back on being drafted later.

    Draft capital is stupid because it assumes you would have made the perfect pick.

    All NFL teams miss on picks way more than they hit.

    It has it's merits but to act like it's the be all end all is again painfully shallow thinking.
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    Dude you have to get over the stupidity of draft capital.

    Who cares where the guys were drafted.

    You're either good enough to see multiple contracts or you aren't.
    Nobody gives a **** about Trubisky's draft position vs. Prescott but you.

    At the end of the day Prescott's good enough to get his 2nd contract and you'd have to be an idiot to think Trubisky won't.

    Draft capital is stupid because how many first round picks even make it to their second contract?

    How many get three contracts?

    Your draft position has no bearing on how successful you'll be.

    Great Prescott was a gem from the later rounds, doesn't mean people should expect less from him.

    The guy's under the same scrutiny as a ant QB.

    Like because Tom Brady was almost Mr. Irrelevant people shouldn't expect acSB appearance?

    The bar's already set, there's no falling back on being drafted later.

    Draft capital is stupid because it assumes you would have made the perfect pick.

    All NFL teams miss on picks way more than they hit.

    It has it's merits but to act like it's the be all end all is again painfully shallow thinking.
    It does matter. If you were drafted in the later rounds like Brady then by and large it's considered lucky that he turned out the way he did. Russell Wilson comes to mind as well. But if you were a lottery pick then yes you are supposed to be a star that puts up star numbers. TruBUSTky doesn't at all. He's fallen flat each year.

    Owners and GMs definitely have a certain expectation on a player if they were drafted in the 1st round. There is no way around it. Stop making excuses for TruBUSTky.
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    Also LOL at having no idea how the market works.

    Dak wants more money than Brady or Rodgers.

    Not because he thinks he's worth more, because he is last out of them to get paid.

    It's like saying "hurr durr, Alvin Kamara thinks he's more valuable to his team than Walter Payton was".

    No dumb ****, it's called two completely different climates.

    Back when Rodgers got paid, X amount was the going rate, now it isn't.

    The guy who just got paid is ALWAYS making more than the guys before him.


    Some of you are just plain stupid.
    Cowboys would be better off drafting a new QB. I Understand how the market works for GOOD QBS but Prescott is replaceable. I guarantee they can find a QB in the draft that can do what he does. Their squad is stack
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    Right and that works all fine and dandy in Madden.

    In the real world the Cowboys owner has an entire fanbase to answer to.
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    Originally Posted by niospecv View Post
    It does matter. If you were drafted in the later rounds like Brady then by and large it's considered lucky that he turned out the way he did. Russell Wilson comes to mind as well. But if you were a lottery pick then yes you are supposed to be a star that puts up star numbers. TruBUSTky doesn't at all. He's fallen flat each year.

    Owners and GMs definitely have a certain expectation on a player if they were drafted in the 1st round. There is no way around it. Stop making excuses for TruBUSTky.
    You're literally the one here making excuses and trying to use Prescott's draft position as a crutch.

    Like it shouldn't matter Prescott can't cut it because there are higher draft picks than him doing worse.
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    Also LOL at having no idea how the market works.

    Dak wants more money than Brady or Rodgers.

    Not because he thinks he's worth more, because he is last out of them to get paid.

    It's like saying "hurr durr, Alvin Kamara thinks he's more valuable to his team than Walter Payton was".

    No dumb ****, it's called two completely different climates.

    Back when Rodgers got paid, X amount was the going rate, now it isn't.

    The guy who just got paid is ALWAYS making more than the guys before him.

    Some of you are just plain stupid.
    Even though this guy is a Bears homer, he is correct.

    Its not about if Dak thinks he's better than any QB, its about what he can get on the market. The best player at any position isn't the highest paid unless he got a new contract in the past month or so. Every year the cap goes up and if player A is the best player in the NFL but signed his contract 4 years ago, he's probably not even in the top 10 highest paid at his position.

    How do you guys negotiate? Don't you ask for something high/low knowing you will settle for something in the middle?
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    lol @ you ****ing moron's being fixated on the money/year.

    you have no clue what their negotiations are. 100% Dak is fighting for more guaranteed money, not getting a "bigger" contract than others.
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    Originally Posted by Miked1978 View Post
    Even though this guy is a Bears homer, he is correct.

    Its not about if Dak thinks he's better than any QB, its about what he can get on the market. The best player at any position isn't the highest paid unless he got a new contract in the past month or so. Every year the cap goes up and if player A is the best player in the NFL but signed his contract 4 years ago, he's probably not even in the top 10 highest paid at his position.

    How do you guys negotiate? Don't you ask for something high/low knowing you will settle for something in the middle?
    1. Not a Bears homer at all, my post history will show that as I was staunchly against Cutler and Grossman.

    2 Regarding the contract exactly.

    Him wanting $40M is him saying he wants more than $30M.

    My guests is he gets $33M.

    Which let's be honest who here would leave several MILLIONS on the table?
    It's a smart move by Prescott because the Cowboys are in a compromised position.

    Personally I'm never gonna side with ownership because they make money off pure exploitation, but it's no fun when the rabbit gets the gun.

    Dak could go out and have a career ending injury then what?

    Are the Cowboys gonna throw him a few extra million or will he be gone and forgotten about?

    So I don't see anything wrong with sticking it to ownership, of course when he gets paid it becomes time to deliver so he will be under a microscope.
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    lmao the last 10 seconds where David tries to make him feel better is literally every conversation after a dude beats his girlfriend at any competeitive sport or activity
    If you actually count the targets. If you watch, Carr his 4 in a row and the guy says 3 for Carr. So they were being nice before, lol.
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    1. Not a Bears homer at all
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    This would all be a moot point if Carson Wentz wasn't making $32 million a year, which is a joke. Then Prescott wouldn't be able to ask for even 30 million.
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    By @MBisonSon's logic Dak should get paid $35 plus million a year because he's the next man up to get paid. So I guess next year Teddy Bridgewater is gonna get the elusive $40 million. Don't be ridiculous.

    Just because you're next doesn't mean you have to get paid like you're next. Dak is a serviceable QB that can keep the wheels from falling off but he certainly can't carry a team. At least he hasn't been able to demonstrate thus far. Now I do believe he should get at least $30 million per year because he's kept the Cowboys from falling off a cliff when Romo went down for the 587th and final time and represents the team well. He's done admirably well considering how unpolished he was coming out of college.

    We can all agree Dak needs talent around him to play well because that showed badly without Cooper and without Zeke.

    This whole notion that the next QB should always surpass the previous max deal is absurd. They should get paid relevant to their production and how valuable they are to his team. QB salaries are going up faster than the salary cap can contain. This trend will buckle eventually. No team wants to get handcuffed to a deal that will keep them from re-signing their own players like the Ravens did with Flacco.



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    Where is Bridgewater's leverage tho??^^
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    They shoulda signed Keenum, with the roster the cowgirls have, he'd probably fare better than Dak has
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    1. Not a Bears homer at all, my post history will show that as I was staunchly against Cutler and Grossman.

    My guests is he gets $33M.
    LMAO at you not being a homer

    inb4 MRetardSon claims this was bait and/or just a typo. Just a "guests".


    Originally Posted by niospecv View Post
    By @MBisonSon's logic Dak should get paid $35 plus million a year because he's the next man up to get paid. So I guess next year Teddy Bridgewater is gonna get the elusive $40 million. Don't be ridiculous.

    Just because you're next doesn't mean you have to get paid like you're next. Dak is a serviceable QB that can keep the wheels from falling off but he certainly can't carry a team. At least he hasn't been able to demonstrate thus far. Now I do believe he should get at least $30 million per year because he's kept the Cowboys from falling off a cliff when Romo went down for the 587th and final time and represents the team well. He's done admirably well considering how unpolished he was coming out of college.

    We can all agree Dak needs talent around him to play well because that showed badly without Cooper and without Zeke.

    This whole notion that the next QB should always surpass the previous max deal is absurd. They should get paid relevant to their production and how valuable they are to his team. QB salaries are going up faster than the salary cap can contain. This trend will buckle eventually. No team wants to get handcuffed to a deal that will keep them from re-signing their own players like the Ravens did with Flacco.



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    I’m guesting Dak does not get 40m


    I’m just guesting though




    This coming from the guy who’s qb isn’t even good enough to hold Deshaun Watson’s jockstrap.
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    Originally Posted by DeshaunWatson View Post
    I’m guesting Dak does not get 40m


    I’m just guesting though




    This coming from the guy who’s qb isn’t even good enough to hold Deshaun Watson’s jockstrap.
    I'm guesting you should check your CP.
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    LMAO at you not being a homer

    inb4 MRetardSon claims this was bait and/or just a typo. Just a "guests".


    Claims he's not a homer and says Trubisky is a better QB than Mahomes. LOL
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    Originally Posted by DeshaunWatson View Post
    I’m guesting Dak does not get 40m


    I’m just guesting though




    This coming from the guy who’s qb isn’t even good enough to hold Deshaun Watson’s jockstrap.
    Yes Watson played so great in the playoffs with his 1 gifted TD and horrid last drive.

    Feel free to point out any exaggerations I made in the last line.
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    Yes Watson played so great in the playoffs with his 1 gifted TD and horrid last drive.

    Feel free to point out any exaggerations I made in the last line.

    How many rings does Trubiscuck have?
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    Also wanna add to OP Brees and Brady don't really figure into the market as they're retiring soon.

    Of course they're not gonna get paid the same money that comes with long-term contracts because no GM in their right mind would sign them to long-term contracts at this point in their careers.

    When those two retire it'll be two less QB's on your list better than Prescott, even if only due to age.
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    Are you familiar with posting from a phone?

    Or is leaving the house too risky for you?
    Yes, blame it on posting from your phone when you hit the t, two letters to the right, AFTER hitting the first s. No one will notice that you don't know the difference between those words. I'm surprised you haven't blamed your hilarious misunderstanding of apostrophes on your phone.

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    Originally Posted by Lunatic View Post
    Yes, blame it on posting from your phone when you hit the t, two letters to the right, AFTER hitting the first s. No one will notice that you don't know the difference between those words. I'm surprised you haven't blamed your hilarious misunderstanding of apostrophes on your phone.

    I should've guestsed that, though.
    Phone can sometimes change words when you don't expect.

    Half my screen is blocked by the message thanking me for changing my password.

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