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    Hey everyone!
    I wanted to ask you guys a question cause I'm freaking out a little. I have Binge Eating Disorder but for the last three months my binges have become less and less frequent. I have been going to the gym three times a week minimum (I do weights) and I go to another place for cardio workouts once or twice a week, depending on my mood. Yesterday and today I had massive binges, I didnt count calories but I'm guessing they were between 1000-3000 calories above my maintainance each day. I normally eat pretty healthily but this last month I've been restrictive so I lost some weight because of that and thats probably what triggered these binges. This week I weighed 107lbs (48.8kg) before the binges and I'm 4'11' (151cm) tall.
    Right now I look six months pregnant (I swear I'm not exaggerating) and I am drinking as much water as I can, since I heard its gonna help later on. But I have never ever seen my belly look this big.
    Are these binges gonna throw away my progress? Have I gained weight or is it just water weight? I'm scared my body wont go back to normal in the next couple of days or that I will need a whole month to get back to where I was. Do you have any tips for me?

    Thank you so much!
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    Originally Posted by Vandeman17 View Post
    Have you met with a professional about your eating disorder? If not, make an appointment now. People on the internet won’t be much help
    I have! But since I am not seeing my nutritionist in a week I just wanted to ask here, maybe one of you has something to say that could help me
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    Originally Posted by itsLulu View Post
    I have! But since I am not seeing my nutritionist in a week I just wanted to ask here, maybe one of you has something to say that could help me
    A nutritionist isn't a professional. Even a RDA is not properly equipped to counsel someone on eating disorders. As a RDA i helped clients who struggled with eating disorder(s) but they were typically also being seen by a medical professional. One day in isolation isn't a big deal, so get back on track tomorrow and resume normal. There's no need to try to make up for one day, that will only lead to more unhealthy eating habits.
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    Originally Posted by itsLulu View Post
    I have! But since I am not seeing my nutritionist in a week I just wanted to ask here, maybe one of you has something to say that could help me
    Any short-term impact from a binge means nothing compared to you fixing the underlying issue.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    A nutritionist isn't a professional. Even a RDA is not properly equipped to counsel someone on eating disorders. As a RDA i helped clients who struggled with eating disorder(s) but they were typically also being seen by a medical professional. One day in isolation isn't a big deal, so get back on track tomorrow and resume normal. There's no need to try to make up for one day, that will only lead to more unhealthy eating habits.
    Don't worry, I'm also seeing a psychologist who specializes on eating disorders. It's just we dont deal with anything related to nutrition, that part is covered by my nutritionist who has a history of dealing with people with EDs as well.
    I'll do my best not to restrict and eat normally., thank you I just hope that I didn't throw away my progress in two days
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    Originally Posted by itsLulu View Post
    Don't worry, I'm also seeing a psychologist who specializes on eating disorders. It's just we dont deal with anything related to nutrition, that part is covered by my nutritionist who has a history of dealing with people with EDs as well.
    I'll do my best not to restrict and eat normally., thank you I just hope that I didn't throw away my progress in two days
    Good. You're in a perfect setting to make progress in both mind and body.

    Think rationally about the bolded: if it takes months to generate progress, how can 2 days negate months of hard work? Hint: it can't. Resume normal and try not to stress about a short-term setback. Within a week you'll be back to normal. Good luck.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    Good. You're in a perfect setting to make progress in both mind and body.

    Think rationally about the bolded: if it takes months to generate progress, how can 2 days negate months of hard work? Hint: it can't. Resume normal and try not to stress about a short-term setback. Within a week you'll be back to normal. Good luck.
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    Don’t give into cravings. What I do I meet my caloric needs daily and will eat a low calorie snack ONLY if I experience hunger pain.

    My go to snack is cheese and a piece of bread. 130 calories total and enough to make a hunger pain go away.

    I have lost 20 lbs with this strategy and hoping to lose another 5 or so.

    You don’t have a disorder just a difficult time controlling yourself.

    What do you want most... a slice of pizza or to be thin?

    If the answer is thin then don’t give in.

    Adopt a warrior mentality toward this endeavor. It’s difficult but far from impossible
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    Originally Posted by jstar0787 View Post
    Don’t give into cravings. What I do I meet my caloric needs daily and will eat a low calorie snack ONLY if I experience hunger pain.

    My go to snack is cheese and a piece of bread. 130 calories total and enough to make a hunger pain go away.

    I have lost 20 lbs with this strategy and hoping to lose another 5 or so.

    You don’t have a disorder just a difficult time controlling yourself.

    What do you want most... a slice of pizza or to be thin?

    If the answer is thin then don’t give in.

    Adopt a warrior mentality toward this endeavor. It’s difficult but far from impossible
    You shouldn't be giving advice to anyone, ever. You aren't a medical professional and have no place giving a medical diagnosis, nor should you be promoting unhealthy habits. Now go back in to whatever hole you crawled out of.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    You shouldn't be giving advice to anyone, ever. You aren't a medical professional and have no place giving a medical diagnosis, nor should you be promoting unhealthy habits. Now go back in to whatever hole you crawled out of.


    No need to be rude.
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    Originally Posted by jstar0787 View Post
    There’s no such thing as binge eating disorder
    Binge Eating Disorder is listed in the DSM-5. Now as i said, go back to your hole.

    DSM-IV and DSM-5 diagnostic criteria for binge-eating disorder
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/N...troduction.t1/
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    Binge Eating Disorder is listed in the DSM-5. Now as i said, go back to your hole.

    DSM-IV and DSM-5 diagnostic criteria for binge-eating disorder
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/N...troduction.t1/
    I edited my comment.

    Everything is called a disorder this day so that you can spend money on doctors.

    No need to be rude.

    Also it’s not a disease it’s a mental thing

    Anyways that’s what has been working for me and my goals if you don’t like it that’s fine but don’t be rude
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    Originally Posted by jstar0787 View Post
    I edited my comment.

    Everything is called a disorder this day so that you can spend money on doctors.

    No need to be rude.

    Also it’s not a disease it’s a mental thing

    Anyways that’s what has been working for me and my goals if you don’t like it that’s fine but don’t be rude
    No, it's a way to categorize, diagnose, and treat medical issues.

    This is why persons such as yourself with no education or experience in dietetics, medicine, psychology, etc.. should not be giving advice. You didn't even read the original post as your "advice" is irrelevant to the topic, factually wrong, and detrimental if adhered to. Let this be a lesson to you.
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    Let what be a lesson to me that I don’t buy into stupid propaganda
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    Let what be a lesson to me that I don’t buy into stupid propaganda
    Propaganda? Please tell me you are not serious.
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    Originally Posted by jstar0787 View Post
    Let what be a lesson to me that I don’t buy into stupid propaganda

    Fine keep treating over eating as a medical condition lmao
    And mental disorders aren't are medical factor in a person life which impacts in the their well being...

    Oh wait they are.

    You ain't helping anyone here so don't bother getting involved it's past your level of understanding.

    Key markers are important when consider potential psychological disorders and what advice is acceptable to give
    And the OP is displaying them especially in irrational thoughts towards food which is impacting on their life.

    Just stop posting.
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    Originally Posted by jstar0787 View Post
    Let what be a lesson to me that I don’t buy into stupid propaganda
    LMAO ya the DSM-5 is propaganda. Kindly gtfo this forum. Thanks.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    LMAO ya the DSM-5 is propaganda. Kindly gtfo this forum. Thanks.
    Just because a book says something doesn’t mean it’s true.

    Why does it bother you that I’m here anyways why do you want me to go away so much.

    Are you supposed to be some type of bully ? Do you think I’m intimidated those 32000 posts?

    You clicked a button to give me red bars so somehow this means you are above me and I’m supposed to leave.

    Is that what you are into trying to bully and make people do and think how you think
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    lmao I wasn't expecting this to happen.
    I DO have an Eating Disorder. I think you (jstar)can't see the difference because you think B.E.D. is just about not being able to control yourself around food. My eating disorder (and all the other ones for that matter) have underlying issues. I put all of my frustration, worries, pain on my body in order to cope with my emotions. Binges can have two causes: nutritional (when you are restricting) and emotional. Having regular binges that make me feel I want to kill myself or I don't want to go out because I feel ashamed and depressed is not something to be taken lightly. Of course, I don't feel this way anymore but I did. And I still feel a lot of shame and selfhatred when I binge, because when you become obsessed about food its really hard to stop. If I didn't have professional help this cycle would continue forever.

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    Originally Posted by jstar0787 View Post
    Just because a book says something doesn’t mean it’s true.

    Why does it bother you that I’m here anyways why do you want me to go away so much.

    Are you supposed to be some type of bully ? Do you think I’m intimidated those 32000 posts?

    You clicked a button to give me red bars so somehow this means you are above me and I’m supposed to leave.

    Is that what you are into trying to bully and make people do and think how you think
    Its not about bully it's about giving appropriate advice in the given scenario stated in the post.

    The OP clearly stated they had a eating disorder and your advise was not reflective of their situation. You are simple disregarding someone's medical diagnosis by a trained professional as incorrect without any experience or knowledge of the OP.

    Therefore it is advise you restrain from making a judgement on a serious mental issue and not belittling a clinical condition. The OP should discuss these issues with a trained professional and not a forum.

    If they want views from a forum for encouragement and support that is great but they must be seeking further professional help for an indepth personal support plan.
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    Let what be a lesson to me that I don’t buy into stupid propaganda
    Negged for continued idiocy. Deny science all you want, you’re wrong.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Negged for continued idiocy. Deny science all you want, you’re wrong.
    Science is always advancing and old theories are replaced with new ones.

    There’s a reason why those books are always revised. The same reason why scientific theories have changed over the years. New evidence.

    Where there is no cure for aids at the moment... perhaps a few decades from now there will be a cure. It simply has not been discovered yet.

    just because a cure it hasn’t been discovered doesn’t mean there is not one.

    Same exact thing with this scenario, as well as any other so called “diseases”

    Also don’t call me stupid. There’s not need to be rude. If anything you and your beefy friend calling me names and poking at me just make you look like meatheads.

    There’s a reason for the stereotype and you guys are not helping the issue.

    Stop being rude.
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    Originally Posted by jstar0787 View Post
    Science is always advancing and old theories are replaced with new ones.

    There’s a reason why those books are always revised. The same reason why scientific theories have changed over the years. New evidence.

    Where there is no cure for aids at the moment... perhaps a few decades from now there will be a cure. It simply has not been discovered yet.

    just because a cure it hasn’t been discovered doesn’t mean there is not one.

    Same exact thing with this scenario, as well as any other so called “diseases”

    Also don’t call me stupid. There’s not need to be rude. If anything you and your beefy friend calling me names and poking at me just make you look like meatheads.

    There’s a reason for the stereotype and you guys are not helping the issue.

    Stop being rude.
    I didn't call you stupid, I said you are posting idiocy, because you are.

    there are hundreds of thousands of people with BED who struggle every day, and I personally am in recovery from an eating disorder.

    So if you think it's not a thing, then you can f*ck right off. Eating disorders can be deadly.
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    So yeah, this may be the worst thread starring the worst poster (won't say a name at the risk of sounding like a meathead bully) I've read in a while.

    Sorry this happened OP. Pick back up where you left off and TRY to forget about it. I know that's probably a hard thing to do in your situation.
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    I don't know if this will be helpful to you, OP, but sometimes when I "over-do it", I have big swings on the scale sometimes as much as 6 or 8 pounds. But I know there are 3,500 calories in 1 pound of body fat, so there is no way one bad day consisted of enough calories (20k plus!!) to cause me to actually gain 6 pounds.

    Similarly, if you binged for a couple days and overate - you haven't really set yourself back that far. Maybe a pound or two at most, which will be easy to get rid of once you're back on track.

    Good luck to you.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    I didn't call you stupid, I said you are posting idiocy, because you are.

    there are hundreds of thousands of people with BED who struggle every day, and I personally am in recovery from an eating disorder.

    So if you think it's not a thing, then you can f*ck right off. Eating disorders can be deadly.
    Medical journals and books provide information on a variety of things contemporary to the most recent findings of things.

    Over the course of time new information is available, and the books get revised to reflect the new information and findings.

    What was considered a disease yesterday is no longer considered a disease today. What was not curable in ages past now is curable.

    What was inconclusive in the past is now conclusive today.

    What is inconclusive today will be conclusive in the future .

    Science is in a constant state of evolution., and It is because of this evolution in the science field that is called “ medical advice”

    Also it is important to remember the business aspect of things, as the medical industry is a business just like any other.

    So no, what I posted is not “stupid” but rather a reminder that medical literature, like research, is subject to the scientific method at all times.

    As per the eating disorder situation, sorry you struggled with it. Personally I think it is but a simple manifestation of capitalism and consumerism gone wrong.

    There’s a reason why folks in Europe asia and the south americas do not have an obesity epidemic. That is my opinion on the so called “binge eating disorder” disease.

    But hey, perhaps having your midsection cut open and your stomach cut in half is really the solution to the said “disease”

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    Originally Posted by jstar0787 View Post
    Medical journals and books provide information on a variety of things contemporary to the most recent findings of things.

    Over the course of time new information is available, and the books get revised to reflect the new information and findings.

    What was considered a disease yesterday is no longer considered a disease today. What was not curable in ages past now is curable.

    What was inconclusive in the past is now conclusive today.

    What is inconclusive today will be conclusive in the future .

    Science is in a constant state of evolution., and It is because of this evolution in the science field that is called “ medical advice”

    Also it is important to remember the business aspect of things, as the medical industry is a business just like any other.

    So no, what I posted is not “stupid” but rather a reminder that medical literature, like research, is subject to the scientific method at all times.

    As per the eating disorder situation, sorry you struggled with it. Personally I think it is but a simple manifestation of capitalism and consumerism gone wrong.

    There’s a reason why folks in Europe asia and the south americas do not have an obesity epidemic. That is my opinion on the so called “binge eating disorder” disease.

    But hey, perhaps having your midsection cut open and your stomach cut in half is really the solution to the said “disease”

    You're creating a strawman and doubling down on nonsense just stop man. There are still people in Europe who suffer from eating disorders...
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    Originally Posted by Ghawk21 View Post
    You're creating a strawman and doubling down on nonsense just stop man. There are still people in Europe who suffer from eating disorders...
    That medical books and journals are always subject to the scientific method is not nonsense.

    People are too quick to accept a medical diagnosis simply because “the doctor says so” forgetting that the doctors advice too is subject to the scientific method.

    my opinion is that, in its most primitive sense so to speak, the so called binge eating disorder is but simply a lack of self control coupled with an emotional issue .

    From a purely philosophical sense this is not actually a “disease” but rather a misguided view point of life coupled with the bodily urge to consume food.

    This is my opinion on the matter.

    And to add, it is also my opinion that the medical industry has labeled it as a disease so to to speak simply for business purposes.

    There’s medication for everything these days.

    As I said this is my opinion... that my opinion is not popular is no concern of mine.

    I am simply here to give a reminder of the scientific method. I’m sure it pisses a lot of people off that I’m pointing The scientific method out but it’s important to remember the basics
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