why do republicans not want to bolster election security?

[Jasonw1178]

Truth, last I checked the Republicans wanted voter IDs

Exactly. Democrats want to be able to control the propaganda and information is what they mean. Google/FB who have Chinese involvement/investors want to shadowban conservatives and block pro-GOP information, that's just fine, but Wikileaks actually exposes dirt on the democrats that they were hiding under the rug.... oh can't do that because a Russian found it! How about not creating the dirt in the first place.

[BFast55]

Kind of hard to care about this leftist screeching when they don't even want ID's to be required to vote.

MY guess is the bill doesn't even come close to the way OP has framed it. To lazy to research, but other folks are already on top of it.

[BadMonkeyFunker]

repucucks cant win without cheating...

/cp

Failure to act on foreign interference.

Gerrymandering of congressional districts.

Clinging to an electoral college that disproportionately favors conservative voters over all others.

Republicans are doing everything they can to systematically suppress votes to retain power.

/cp


/end

LMFAO!

[chaunce54]

repucucks cant win without cheating...

/cp

Failure to act on foreign interference.

Gerrymandering of congressional districts.

Clinging to an electoral college that disproportionately favors conservative voters over all others.

Republicans are doing everything they can to systematically suppress votes to retain power.

/cp


/end

LMFAO!

lol Failure to act? We had a 2 year special investigation into it...

You want to talk about failure to act?

WASHINGTON — The Obama White House’s chief cyber official testified Wednesday that proposals he was developing to counter Russia’s attack on the U.S. presidential election were put on a “back burner” after he was ordered to “stand down” his efforts in the summer of 2016.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-cyb...204935758.html

[BFast55]

lol Failure to act? We had a 2 year special investigation into it...

You want to talk about failure to act?

Thanks Obama.

[BadMonkeyFunker]

lol Failure to act? We had a 2 year special investigation into it...

You want to talk about failure to act?

LMFAO cucks gonna cuck


Mulluer just told congress russia intervened and will do next year and are doing it right now... what moscow putins mitch do ? He blocks any security bill he can.. what does trump do ? he denies in front of the whole world and says he believes putin instead...

fuk you and any repuccuk who supports this BS at this point... you're NOT for America you're against America ....

[chaunce54]

LMFAO cucks gonna cuck


Mulluer just told congress russia intervened and will do next year and are doing it right now... what moscow putins mitch do ? He blocks any security bill he can.. what does trump do ? he denies in front of the whole world and says he believes putin instead...

fuk you and any repuccuk who supports this BS at this point... you're NOT for America you're against America ....

So tell us how that bill would have blocked ******** memes?

[BadMonkeyFunker]

So tell us how that bill would have blocked ******** memes?

I thought ******** memes didnt help.. it was poor disfranchised Americans elected the clown chief ? LMFAO! you cant even keep up with your own BS!

[BFast55]

LMFAO cucks gonna cuck


Mulluer just told congress russia intervened and will do next year and are doing it right now... what moscow putins mitch do ? He blocks any security bill he can.. what does trump do ? he denies in front of the whole world and says he believes putin instead...

fuk you and any repuccuk who supports this BS at this point... you're NOT for America you're against America ....

Clearly you support voter ID's right? You being so concerned with election meddling by foreigners and all.

[chaunce54]

I thought ******** memes didnt help.. it was poor disfranchised Americans elected the clown chief ? LMFAO! you cant even keep up with your own BS!

Just because they posted some busted FB memes, doesn't mean they helped Trump get elected. Hillary and her supporters did that.

[sandaltan]

Voter ID = all votes are legit

Edit: deleted my post

what counts as a voter ID?

[BearyManilowe]

what counts as a voter ID?

A specific identification card for use at the polls that is verified by SSN, Birth Certificate, or whatever other documentation is acceptable for a US Passport. Before you ask "and how do I get it?" The same way you get a passport or driver's license or voter registration card.

Voter ID really isnt as hard to implement as it's made out to be.

[sandaltan]

A specific identification card for use at the polls that is verified by SSN, Birth Certificate, or whatever other documentation is acceptable for a US Passport. Before you ask "and how do I get it?" The same way you get a passport or driver's license or voter registration card.

Voter ID really isnt as hard to implement as it's made out to be.

meh, I definitely don't have either my SS card or my birth certificate. How would one go about getting this voter card if they dont have either of those docs?

[icetrauma]

Nancy, how do you not have your SS & BC? You need to googler on how to get them. Srs.

He's just being a horses rear end and playing stupid. Remember, he's an attorney.

[sandaltan]

Nancy, how do you not have your SS & BC? You need to googler on how to get them. Srs.

ive literally never needed them. i know my ssn but i dont have the card itself. and its unconstitutional to force ppl to go through an enormous pain in the ass to get the documents yall propose should be needed to vote. the result will be massive voter suppression.

[FearThisjake]

OP, why don't liberals want voter ID? that is how you make sure that the votes are legit. Anything else is just trying to control what people think. Why do liberals think they are allowed to control the way people think? This aint 1984 brah.

Liberals: "omg, voter ID is racist because only white people will be able to get the voter ID"

[FearThisjake]

ive literally never needed them. i know my ssn but i dont have the card itself. and its unconstitutional to force ppl to go through an enormous pain in the ass to get the documents yall propose should be needed to vote. the result will be massive voter suppression.

It took 15 minutes of my life and $20 to get my birth certificate. Getting a copy of your SS card is even easier and its free

[BearyManilowe]

ive literally never needed them. i know my ssn but i dont have the card itself. and its unconstitutional to force ppl to go through an enormous pain in the ass to get the documents yall propose should be needed to vote. the result will be massive voter suppression.

What is unconstitutional about it? Elections are for citizens only. It is very constitutional to prove your citizenship to vote in an election.

What you need to get you SS card:
https://uwc.211ct.org/social-securit...lacement-card/

What you need to get your Birth Certificate:
https://www.usa.gov/replace-vital-documents#item-36582

Done.

[Fishman15]

things you need ID for:
Alcohol.
Cigarettes.
Opening a bank account.
Apply for a loan/credit card
Apply for food stamps.
Apply for welfare.
Apply for Medicaid/Social Security.
Apply for unemployment or a job.
Rent/buy a house
Get on an airplane
Get married
Purchase a gun
Adopt a pet
Rent a hotel/car
Apply for a fishing license
Buy a phone
Pick up a prescription
Go to college


but democrats believe asking for IDs when you vote is racist....?

Inb4 not the same thing from libtards...

[Fishman15]

they are too busy looking to suppress votes. so we will have to overcome that as well

How do you people wake up and look in the mirror every day?

[scheal]

LMFAO cucks gonna cuck


Mulluer just told congress russia intervened and will do next year and are doing it right now... what moscow putins mitch do ? He blocks any security bill he can.. what does trump do ? he denies in front of the whole world and says he believes putin instead...

fuk you and any repuccuk who supports this BS at this point... you're NOT for America you're against America ....

Why did Barack Hussein do nothing about the Russians intervening in our election? Was he on their pay roll?

[Fishman15]

ive literally never needed them. i know my ssn but i dont have the card itself. and its unconstitutional to force ppl to go through an enormous pain in the ass to get the documents yall propose should be needed to vote. the result will be massive voter suppression.

Oh the mental gymnastics to avoid a voter ID card...ffs

[icetrauma]

ive literally never needed them. i know my ssn but i dont have the card itself. and its unconstitutional to force ppl to go through an enormous pain in the ass to get the documents yall propose should be needed to vote. the result will be massive voter suppression.

I got copies of all my kids birth certificates online. You do know how to use a computer? It's less of a hassle than getting your drivers license. You do have a drivers license don't ya? The funny thing is, you can use the same forms and at the same time for a voter ID card.

[FearThisjake]

You gotta love how these retards went from screeching about TRUMP COLLUSION to ******** MEMES. Just LOL @ you fukkin idiots.

The chit is hilarious to watch in all honesty. I feel kinda bad for them, losing day after day, week after week, month after month. It has to be mentally exhausting and I can see why a lot of these people have stopped taking their meds.

[ThePoz]

Sure, but you'll have to allocate funds for anyone who needs one. Valid voter identification should be provided no cost, as a taxpayer I'm 100% behind that.

Increase the price of drivers licenses by $5. Make non-driver ID free.

[tyqb4]

because the bill in question is centered on "cyber security" of the voting machines that are not connected to the internet.

The only way to hack them is to get access to the machine itself.

Democrats tried to get consent to pass two bills that would require campaigns to alert the FBI and Federal Election Commission about foreign offers of assistance, as well as a bill to let the Senate Sergeant at Arms offer voluntary cyber assistance for personal devices and accounts of senators and staff.

straight from the article

[frankfrank3630]

because the bill in question is centered on "cyber security" of the voting machines that are not connected to the internet.

The only way to hack them is to get access to the machine itself.

And, I assume, the bill also includes machines that ARE connected to the internet. I also assume that the bill would apply to machines that are connected to the internet after its passage.

I'm willing to bet that almost every single conservative on this site is for voter ID laws. I'm also willing to bet that the majority of liberals are not.

I'm a flaming *LIBERAL* and I'm ALL-IN FOR VOTER ID. It would be administered by Social Security, which keeps track of EVERY U. S. CITIZEN AND LEGAL INHABITANT - it would not be a stretch at all for them to issue federal voter ID photo cards, with counterfeit-proof holograms embedded (as credit cards now do, sans photo) and perhaps embedded QR code. Because there are Post Offices in every town in the USA, the voter ID photo can be taken there. Social Security would reimburse the Post Office for every photo ID taken there.

I don't know to what extent Social Security tracks any "illegal aliens" a/k/a the much-more-accurate-and-unwieldy "people who have crossed into the United States, without legal permission, and are staying." If any illegal aliens are on the Social Security system, SS could interface with whatever sub-agency (I actually don't think it's ICE, which is *enforcement* only) keeps track of people who are citizens or otherwise legally allowed to stay in the USA as some kind of permanent resident eligible to vote, and all people on both those files and SS files would get a Federal Voter ID card with photo. It would kick the "illegals" off of eligibility to get the ID card. If these cards also have embedded QR code or even something else more cutting-edge, voting precincts would all be able to scan-in the ID and it would enter the federal system at that point. It would be IMPOSSIBLE for that card to be used fraudulently to vote again.

Some people think voter ID is a horrible idea because of invasion of privacy. Got news for ya bunky...the invasion of our privacy is ALREADY total. A voter ID card isn't even going to add to that at all.

Has an election machine ever been "hacked"?

Yes, internally by being outfitted with proprietary software which is not allowed to be evaluated by anybody. There's no guarantee that the software is identical from precinct to precinct, even...a savvy programmer working for the voting machine company could customize the algorithms by individual precinct. Y'know, flip every 23rd vote for one party, to the other major party candidate (EITHER party could benefit, right now it will tend to be Republicans). The vote tallies might be done by PRIVATE COMPANIES who are accountable to no one, without any kind of paper trail to verify anything. I'll never forget 2004/Ohio. Before that election, Diebold (who made voting machines, and I think was BASED in Ohio) sent out a campaign letter to probable donors to Republicans, asking them to support that party, and saying something like "We will deliver the state of Ohio to George Bush in 2004." Ohio went to Bush 43 in November 2004. Pre-election polling had Kerry winning by 2 or 3 points or something, and Bush won by something like the same margin.*** Something's rotten there. I also understand that the machine votes were sent over the internet and tallied by a Republican-run (NOT RNC, but party preference of CEO, etc.) company in eastern TENNESSEE (why there, not Ohio??).

***Lots and lots of people say that the 2016 election was rigged, because Hillary Clinton was supposed to win. Yes, she was supposed to win the popular vote by like 2.5% (and of course all such polls have "sampling error" as well as eleventh-hour shifts, both inevitable). Sampling error includes respondents lying about their voting preferences, which will often be more common for one party than the other (in a given survey region/area). She got the popular vote with a 2.1% margin. ABSOLUTELY, THE POLLING WAS RIGHT. The result was well within the margin of error (which I think is two standard deviations). The Electoral College distorts results in favor of "smaller" states, though, where a Wyoming result is something like 70-fold fewer people than California, but only 18-fold fewer Electoral votes, so that is distorted...and the "smaller" states generally are usually more rural and generally lean Republican. Only some "small" Northeastern states (which mostly also happen, by coincidence, to be geographically-small) tend Democratic.

No but they have been loaded into Democrat poll workers trunks along with thousands of blank ballots and nobody seemed to bat an eye.

Oh kcad..., Republicans do the same thing too. Look what happened in North Carolina's 9th Congressional District, for example.

Republicans also tend to disqualify voters in a way that trends Democrat, such as the really egregious "cross-check" thing where a Juan Gonzalez in Texas (who is an entirely legal U. S. citizen) won't be allowed to vote because there's a felon Juan Gonzalez in friggin' FLORIDA, so the entirely different JG is disenfranchised in Texas.

My brother in northern Florida, just for chits-and-grins, rode around once on election night (2004, I think?) to drive by a bunch of election precinct voting locations. He knows his "neighborhood" (i. e. actually much of the entire county) well, and knows which precincts are nearly all white, and which are nearly all black. (OK, I know that federal House districts, and both STATE House and Senate - or whatever other name they go by, such as in California - can be Gerrymandered, but are *individual precincts* ever Gerrymandered?) He said the white ones he went by, there were NO QUEUES (and the one he voted in had like 22 voting machines and there were never more than 8 or 9 used at a time), and the black precincts had queues stretching 2 or 5 blocks and he found out later that the places for "them" have maybe 3 voting machines inside.

THAT IS CHEATING, TOO...and it's Republicans doing it, mostly.

Seriously, I expect some state, before the 2024 election, to start putting up hurdles forbidding women from voting, because (and again it's mostly Republicans - at least FOR NOW) they are starting to realize more and more that they can ignore or violate the Constitution with wild abandon, if they know that the Supreme Court has their back.

[Dave22reborn]

ive literally never needed them. i know my ssn but i dont have the card itself. and its unconstitutional to force ppl to go through an enormous pain in the ass to get the documents yall propose should be needed to vote. the result will be massive voter suppression.

An ID card is a pain in the ass?

[Dave22reborn]

they are too busy looking to suppress votes. so we will have to overcome that as well

What kind of bottom feeder doesn't have an ID card in 2019? What does that say about leftists?

[kusok]

republicans very much want to bolster election security.

Voter ID, preventing Google and other liberal bias platforms from messing around with searches and news feeds, preventing Ukraine and Saudis from helping Democrats etc.

Democrats don’t want any election security.

In fact didn’t it come out that the Russians were also helping Hillary?