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    Take vitamins & supplements separately? recovering from concussion

    hey guys, i'm trying to recover from a very bad concussion, it's been 7 days and symptoms are still strong as **** as day 1. i'm not able to do anything except very simple tasks slowly around my room and ready food, i'm incorporating vitamins and supplements to my recovery to see if it helps.

    is it bad to take it all at the same time?

    i'm doing

    2 high potency multi's
    omega 3 - 4000mg/day
    d3 - 5000iu/day
    magnesium - 600mg
    vitamin c + vitamin e - 1000mg and 400mg
    creatine - 20g/day
    protein shakes - 3 times a day, 90g protein 9g creatine
    vitamin b 100 complex - time release
    vitamin b12 - 1200mg time release

    will be adding melatonin 1.5g, it has 5-htp too.
    will be adding curucumin 50mg
    will be adding resevertrol


    also drink a herbal tea with gingko and ginseng 3 times a day

    please check my list, if there's anything I should know. i'm trying to recover from this terrible brain injury as best I can. or any recommendations for brain recovery, i would love.
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    Why would a high-potency multi vitamin help with concussions?

    And, 20g of creatine? WTF? And your protein ALSO has creatine?

    You're massively over-dosing things... you're even taking EXTRA vitamins-C and Vitamin-E?? That's a terrible idea... And why would you take a B-Complex AND a b12?
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    Damn dude that's rough, so sorry to hear.

    I'm not actually sure about how you should dose the vitamins and supplements, although maybe spread them evenly throughout the day to make sure?

    It took me a month to recover from a major concussion, and it was really rough. So don't get disheartened if it takes a little longer.

    Have you had a neuropsych evaluation?

    There's a lot of promising research on nootropics like noopept and piracetam for recovering from tbis. You may want to check it out.

    Just rest as much as humanly possible man and you'll recover fully. Best of luck.
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    I responded to your other thread but you didn't ask about vitamins/minerals there. All of the supplements together will probably not help at all.

    Getting in too many vitamins/minerals can be harmful. You run that risk with 2 high potency multis. Omega 3 can theoretically increase the risk of bleeding with 4g/day... probably not the best idea in the world while your brain is bruised as a brain bleed would be devastating. Creatine 20g daily is far more than needed and won't help your brain almost certainly (may give you stomach distress). A total of 47g creatine daily is ridiculous, as is 3 protein shakes with 90g protein. High doses of vitamin B complex and vitamin E have been linked with increased mortality so may want to stop that, especially with the multi you are taking.

    Just follow your doctor's recommendations. A neuropsych eval can be helpful if you have prolonged/abnormal symptoms.

    Mentioned above is noopept and piracetam; I am not familiar with those so cannot comment.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Why would a high-potency multi vitamin help with concussions?

    And, 20g of creatine? WTF? And your protein ALSO has creatine?

    You're massively over-dosing things... you're even taking EXTRA vitamins-C and Vitamin-E?? That's a terrible idea... And why would you take a B-Complex AND a b12?
    Can you try not responding teenage boy on a tantrum?

    Thanks for the neg too. Expected when talking to a child on the internet.

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    Damn dude that's rough, so sorry to hear.

    I'm not actually sure about how you should dose the vitamins and supplements, although maybe spread them evenly throughout the day to make sure?

    It took me a month to recover from a major concussion, and it was really rough. So don't get disheartened if it takes a little longer.

    Have you had a neuropsych evaluation?

    There's a lot of promising research on nootropics like noopept and piracetam for recovering from tbis. You may want to check it out.

    Just rest as much as humanly possible man and you'll recover fully. Best of luck.
    I have not. I was going to ask for a recommendation to see a specialist this monday, but my symptoms were really bad, this whole week actually is worse than the days after the concussion. I'm thinking about resting until Sunday then try again.

    Originally Posted by Heisman2 View Post
    I responded to your other thread but you didn't ask about vitamins/minerals there. All of the supplements together will probably not help at all.

    Getting in too many vitamins/minerals can be harmful. You run that risk with 2 high potency multis. Omega 3 can theoretically increase the risk of bleeding with 4g/day... probably not the best idea in the world while your brain is bruised as a brain bleed would be devastating. Creatine 20g daily is far more than needed and won't help your brain almost certainly (may give you stomach distress). A total of 47g creatine daily is ridiculous, as is 3 protein shakes with 90g protein. High doses of vitamin B complex and vitamin E have been linked with increased mortality so may want to stop that, especially with the multi you are taking.

    Just follow your doctor's recommendations. A neuropsych eval can be helpful if you have prolonged/abnormal symptoms.

    Mentioned above is noopept and piracetam; I am not familiar with those so cannot comment.
    Thanks, yeah I read your reply. It didn't seem like there were many active users over there. Thought this sub-forum could be a little more helpful.

    I will cut down on some of these. Thanks.

    Both doctors i've seen weren't very helpful. The first doctor I went to was an absolute retard... he told me to take advil and and tylenol for the pain. When I researched it, everything said to absolutely stay away from ibuprofen because it could cause brain bleeding. The guy told me to take ibuprofen the day I got the concussion. I took 400mg of ibuprofen that day, thank god I didn't go for more. So started doing my own research on what people took, but I obviously now know that I know that some of these are too much. It's a good thing I asked.

    And the second doctor I saw at the hospital was really busy so he didn't have time for me. He pretty much sent me to a CT scan and he said okay, you're cleared. Well he hooked me on IV for 10 hours and not sure what meds he put me on, and then he came back, and told me to get a CT scan, then he came back and cleared me and left. Didn't really tell me anything.

    I was supposed to see a doctor this monday as well, but my symptoms were really bad. Wanted to see one this morning, but same thing. I will probably wait until Saturday.
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    Not sure how things work in Canada but if you can get in with a headache specialist (probably a neurologist) that would be your best bet.

    Just to be clear though... I don't expect any magical solutions. If your symptoms are this severe a week out you are likely looking at easily several weeks and possibly several months to make a full recovery, no matter what treatment you do or do not try.

    Magnesium can be helpful for headaches and you mentioned that. Vitamin B2 (riboflavin) can also be helpful. While they both help with migraines I am not sure they will help with concussion headaches.
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    Originally Posted by Heisman2 View Post
    Not sure how things work in Canada but if you can get in with a headache specialist (probably a neurologist) that would be your best bet.

    Just to be clear though... I don't expect any magical solutions. If your symptoms are this severe a week out you are likely looking at easily several weeks and possibly several months to make a full recovery, no matter what treatment you do or do not try.

    Magnesium can be helpful for headaches and you mentioned that. Vitamin B2 (riboflavin) can also be helpful. While they both help with migraines I am not sure they will help with concussion headaches.
    Would I still be at risk of second concussion death within several months? I'm scared to go outside because I don't want to risk a fatal second concussion.

    I think going outside would help me. Since i've been staying in my room for like 6 days straight. But I feel uncomfortable now.
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    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post
    Would I still be at risk of second concussion death within several months? I'm scared to go outside because I don't want to risk a fatal second concussion.

    I think going outside would help me. Since i've been staying in my room for like 6 days straight. But I feel uncomfortable now.
    You can definitely go outside. As I said in the other thread, at least in pediatrics we recommend getting back to your normal life and doing as much as possible as long as it does not worsen symptoms.

    You are at risk of second-hit syndrome until you heal, but that's not a reason to be scared. We warn patients about it and you definitely should avoid activities that put you at high risk of a second concussion but think about all the boxers who get knocked down and are woozy, get up, and then get knocked out in a later fight. They definitely can get multiple concussions in one fight without any significant immediate adverse effects.
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    Originally Posted by Heisman2 View Post
    You can definitely go outside. As I said in the other thread, at least in pediatrics we recommend getting back to your normal life and doing as much as possible as long as it does not worsen symptoms.

    You are at risk of second-hit syndrome until you heal, but that's not a reason to be scared. We warn patients about it and you definitely should avoid activities that put you at high risk of a second concussion but think about all the boxers who get knocked down and are woozy, get up, and then get knocked out in a later fight. They definitely can get multiple concussions in one fight without any significant immediate adverse effects.
    Thanks... Kind of eased my anxiety, though the risk of death is still scary as ****. I may try going to the walk in clinic doctor tomorrow morning. I think why I'm not getting better is because im shut in my room. My eyes aren't really getting a chance to adjust to natural light
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    All the above will do you nothing . You need rest , good sleep , a balanced diiet withincluding fruits and vegetables and basically support from environment and friends so that you boost your psychology .
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