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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    Is there any particular reason you think Trump is scared of Mueller testifying??
    The main issue is that Trump wasn't charged with anything... and none of the Mueller report has had to be subjected to being proven as fact in a court of law, nor cross examination from a defendant. We are left to believe that everything included is 100% fact and a complete account of everything that happened, without leaving out any exculpatory evidence or sets of facts that would potentially change the narrative.

    This can be seen in the papadapolous section, the Trump Jr. meeting, etc. Did Mueller dive into who Mifsud was and who he was working for? No. He writes a single blanket statement that he was linked to Russia... whereas all public info shows that he was linked to western intel. Mifusd meeting with papa was a western intel set up, not some Russian collusion scheme. But Mueller can get away with saying anything, because he has to answer to nobody.

    Same is true for the trump Jr. meeting. The lawyer writes an unsolicited email to trump jr. saying she has dirt... but there is no proof that Russia was looking to ever help trump. The lawyer was working with fusion GPS, coincidentally the same group hired by Clinton to dig up dirt on trump. Or in this case, manufacture it. The other 2 Russians at the meeting? Both linked to the Clintons. This was a clear set up. But did Mueller mention these other relationships? How the lawyer was working for fusion GPS and met with Fusion GPS the day before and after the trump Jr. meeting? How Glenn Simpson of fusion GPS lied under oath multiple times, including about his interactions with the lawyer? No... he didn't.

    And when Republicans questions Mueller on any of this, he will just say "Refer to my report. I won't discuss anything else."

    It's all a charade. And our resident libs are eating it up.
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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    Is there any particular reason you think Trump is scared of Mueller testifying??
    His screeching on Twitter seems to give it away
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    His screeching on Twitter seems to give it away
    What did he say?
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    His screeching on Twitter seems to give it away
    should we go through all you have screeched out on here and come to the conclusion that you are afraid of it?
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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    If Mueller doesn't make it illegal for Chic Fil A to be closed on Sundays, this is all for naught.

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    Mueller begs Dems to let his deputy be sworn in to testify alongside him to answer questions he might “not” be able to answer himself. Lmao. An unprecented request and one which should be denied by Nadler if he has any respect for this sideshow he has created.
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    If Mueller had more information to damage Trump that was not in the report why did Mueller himself ask Barr for the DOJ to put out a letter to limit the scope of his upcoming congressional testimony.
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    Originally Posted by Procta View Post
    If Mueller had more information to damage Trump that was not in the report why did Mueller himself ask Barr for the DOJ to put out a letter to limit the scope of his upcoming congressional testimony.
    BECAUSE TRUMP IS SCARED - didn't you read his tweets!?!?!?!
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    Originally Posted by Procta View Post
    If Mueller had more information to damage Trump that was not in the report why did Mueller himself ask Barr for the DOJ to put out a letter to limit the scope of his upcoming congressional testimony.
    to protect him from republican questions
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    If we could say that the president didn't commit a crime, we would have said so.
    It’s not possible to prove a universal negative statement. For ex, how does Trump prove this statement: “I never obstructed justice.” It’s only possible to find that statement false,with a counterexample: “Here is evidence of obstruction.”

    Thus Mueller exonerated Trump because he couldn’t find a counterexample as described. He DID say that if Congress redefines Obstruction, they might find something borderline with which they could pursue Trump...such law being passed AFTER any such act (which makes prosecution void for that act).
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    Originally Posted by 5x10 View Post
    to protect him from republican questions

    Ding ding ding.

    All of the pertinent questions revolve around questions not directly covered in the report. Why did 4 members of your team get kicked off for bias? How on earth did you choose such a biased team? When did you know collusion didn't exist? Why Didn't you include xzy? Why did you call mifsud a Russian agent when all evidence shows he is western intel? Why did you manipulate trump's lawyers recordings? Why did you manipulate papadapolous emails?

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    1 of 2 things will happen tomorrow...

    1. Mueller will not pull that ambiguous bulls hit and flat out say if Trump committed obstruction and then things will be taken from there.

    2. It will once again be a big nothing burger and this is all for show to rile people up on the whole Russia hoax again.
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    Originally Posted by Streetbull View Post
    It’s not possible to prove a universal negative statement. For ex, how does Trump prove this statement: “I never obstructed justice.” It’s only possible to find that statement false,with a counterexample: “Here is evidence of obstruction.”

    Thus Mueller exonerated Trump because he couldn’t find a counterexample as described. He DID say that if Congress redefines Obstruction, they might find something borderline with which they could pursue Trump...such law being passed AFTER any such act (which makes prosecution void for that act).
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    If the guy goes up there and clears everything up, that will be the end of it, and everyone can fuking move on.


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    His screeching on Twitter seems to give it away
    So you are scared of Trump and Republicans? Gotcha. Actually makes sense.
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    this just in:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...stify-him.html

    Republicans are hopping mad after Mueller makes last-minute request to have his former chief of staff testify WITH him tomorrow so someone can answer questions he can't touch
    Mueller sought to have former aide Aaron Zebley sworn in
    Former chief of staff helped former special counsel prepare for hearings
    Mueller has vowed to stick to within the parameters of his public report
    Top panel Republican said majority allowing business 'to devolve into chaos'
    Called it an 'apparent stunt' and said Zebley could both advise Mueller and testify
    Served in FBI counterterrorism division, followed Mueller to private practice and joined his probe
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    this just in:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...stify-him.html

    Republicans are hopping mad after Mueller makes last-minute request to have his former chief of staff testify WITH him tomorrow so someone can answer questions he can't touch
    Mueller sought to have former aide Aaron Zebley sworn in
    Former chief of staff helped former special counsel prepare for hearings
    Mueller has vowed to stick to within the parameters of his public report
    Top panel Republican said majority allowing business 'to devolve into chaos'
    Called it an 'apparent stunt' and said Zebley could both advise Mueller and testify
    Served in FBI counterterrorism division, followed Mueller to private practice and joined his probe
    I don't think Nadler is going to permit it. Mueller starting to squirm.

    edit looks like it was denied but he will still be there to advise Mueller.

    Zebley will be there to advise Mueller, but the special counsel will be the only one answering the committee questions, the source said. Democrats only plan to swear in Mueller as a witness.
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    Originally Posted by badreligion View Post
    1 of 2 things will happen tomorrow...

    1. Mueller will not pull that ambiguous bulls hit and flat out say if Trump committed obstruction and then things will be taken from there.

    2. It will once again be a big nothing burger and this is all for show to rile people up on the whole Russia hoax again.
    Mueller told Barr and others the reason he didn’t charge trump with obstruction wasn’t due to the OLC guidelines that you cannot indict a president. He punted to Barr, Rosenstein, and DOJ lawyers who reviewed it and said there was not evidence to charge. Barr even went as far as to say he wasn’t sure that muellers depiction of all events were accurate, but he took them as accurate and still couldn’t charge. It’s done. There is nothing mueller can say that will change that. If he does say the OLC policy, it will be muellers word against Barr and everyone else in the room who heard the multiple conversations.

    The dems wouldn’t expose mueller to republican questioning, which he will either get roasted or just dodge, without a specific sound bite prepared. There is a well planned end game in mind, but it’s anyones guess what exactly it will be.

    Muellers goal was to find any crime on trump and indict him, and he failed. In failing, he couldn’t just outright say there was nothing, so he put the burden of proof on trump to prove his innocence and said he couldn’t. There are no legal ramifications here... except that it keeps the narrative alive indefinitely. That is their goal now... to keep a false narrative alive through the election. It’s all they have.
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