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    Obviously wassis.....

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    yeah, i don't see why people call him racist. Like, at most he's diet racist....like casually racist, not like white supremacy racist.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Right but he called for a muslim ban period. That includes muslims not from those countries. Why generalize? Why not say you are calling for a ban on specific countries you feel have been compromised by radical islam?

    He said "muslim ban" and the crowd cheered. This is a generalization to all muslims.
    Can't be too careful with those folks you know?

    And yeah to the topic at hand, he's not racist in the true sense of the word. But the word "racist" means nothing in today's world.
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    Originally Posted by BS57 View Post
    Obviously wassis.....

    This award was given for being a successful NY businessman of ethnic (German) heritage. Has nothing to do with anything related to Trump and minorities. There have been thousands of recipients of this award over the years including Hillary Clinton.

    Right around this time was when Trump was discriminating against black renters at several of his properties. He has a recognised past of doing and saying racist and xenophobic things. May not be an out and out racist, but it's the kind of thing that is just part of his personality and seeps through
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    Originally Posted by isingmodel View Post
    This award was given for being a successful NY businessman of ethnic (German) heritage. Has nothing to do with anything related to Trump and minorities. There have been thousands of recipients of this award over the years including Hillary Clinton.

    Right around this time was when Trump was discriminating against black renters at several of his properties. He has a recognised past of doing and saying racist and xenophobic things. May not be an out and out racist, but it's the kind of thing that is just part of his personality and seeps through
    To these people, they would need to see him actively lynching someone, and even then, they would make excuses that the dude he lynched had it coming. You can't defeat cultists with evidence. They don't think about things from that pov.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    To these people, they would need to see him actively lynching someone, and even then, they would make excuses that the dude he lynched had it coming. You can't defeat cultists with evidence. They don't think about things from that pov.
    racism has lost it true definition due to snow flakes like you

    You probably believe every republican president or candidate is a racist, as that’s how they are labeled
    Remember how George bush jr hates black people? Now , he’s best friends with Michael Obama
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    Originally Posted by isingmodel View Post
    This award was given for being a successful NY businessman of ethnic (German) heritage. Has nothing to do with anything related to Trump and minorities. There have been thousands of recipients of this award over the years including Hillary Clinton.

    Right around this time was when Trump was discriminating against black renters at several of his properties. He has a recognised past of doing and saying racist and xenophobic things. May not be an out and out racist, but it's the kind of thing that is just part of his personality and seeps through

    You’re re-writing history. Trump has NO history of racism. Only after he took power away from the establishment did they go to their standard tactic of racism. They did the same to Ron Paul, the same Ron Paul that treated poor blacks for free all his life and paid their bill too. But as soon as he talks against the power structure and gains momentum: RASAAAAAAAS!!!!!!

    Bullsheit.

    There was never a problem with Trump before the election. Trump’s CEO of his charity organization is a black woman, eats at his house and BBQ with his kids all the time, she spoke on video. Trump let homeless blacks stay at his buildings, and flew people for free when they needed medical emergency treatment on his own jets. Was the first to make a woman a CEO of a major Manhattan skyscraper project. Was the first to desegregate a club where day 1 he said blacks Jews and women can come in and that’s that, he took massive financial and legal losses from members and authorities, but he stuck to his guns.

    Stop swallowing propaganda! You’re a f*cking adult. Turn your TV off.


    It’s embarrassing. You’re like an idiot Soviet Union factory worker, I saw them as a child watching Russian version of CNN, and they swallowed whatever BS was said on it. It was sad. I was 13 years old and knew Soviet TV was lying. How can you not know the same??? The building not renting to blacks thing was debunked ages ago. Trump had nothing to do with any of that, charges were dropped, no admission of guilt by anyone. You think Trump knows what’s happening at his endless properties? Monitors thousands of his employees and their decisions? You think a color blind capitalist that just wants money gives a flying f*ck what color his customers are??? Come on man.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    To these people, they would need to see him actively lynching someone, and even then, they would make excuses that the dude he lynched had it coming. You can't defeat cultists with evidence. They don't think about things from that pov.
    If you see Trump lynching a black person and talking about how he hates black people let me know, take a video. I will then deem, in my infinite wisdom, that Trump is indeed a racist.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    To these people, they would need to see him actively lynching someone, and even then, they would make excuses that the dude he lynched had it coming. You can't defeat cultists with evidence. They don't think about things from that pov.


    I like the evidence you provided.

    So far you have provided the following “evidence”

    1- made up insane scenario that you know will never happen
    2- personal insults

    And no other proof of Trump racist was seen that day. Nice going!
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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    You’re re-writing history. Trump has NO history of racism. Only after he took power away from the establishment did they go to their standard tactic of racism. They did the same to Ron Paul, the same Ron Paul that treated poor blacks for free all his life and paid their bill too. But as soon as he talks against the power structure and gains momentum: RASAAAAAAAS!!!!!!

    Bullsheit.

    There was never a problem with Trump before the election. Trump’s CEO of his charity organization is a black woman, eats at his house and BBQ with his kids all the time, she spoke on video. Trump let homeless blacks stay at his buildings, and flew people for free when they needed medical emergency treatment on his own jets. Was the first to make a woman a CEO of a major Manhattan skyscraper project. Was the first to desegregate a club where day 1 he said blacks Jews and women can come in and that’s that, he took massive financial and legal losses from members and authorities, but he stuck to his guns.

    Stop swallowing propaganda! You’re a f*cking adult. Turn your TV off.


    It’s embarrassing. You’re like an idiot Soviet Union factory worker, I saw them as a child watching Russian version of CNN, and they swallowed whatever BS was said on it. It was sad. I was 13 years old and knew Soviet TV was lying. How can you not know the same??? The building not renting to blacks thing was debunked ages ago. Trump had nothing to do with any of that, charges were dropped, no admission of guilt by anyone. You think Trump knows what’s happening at his endless properties? Monitors thousands of his employees and their decisions? You think a color blind capitalist that just wants money gives a flying f*ck what color his customers are??? Come on man.
    Great post.

    The really funny thing now is the left has taken to calling Trump supporters and people on the right as 'cultists'. As not being able to see truth from fiction. As crazy people.

    It really is ironic considering the only truly crazy and biased people I see as a whole (there are always exceptions) are those from the far left.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    To these people, they would need to see him actively lynching someone, and even then, they would make excuses that the dude he lynched had it coming. You can't defeat cultists with evidence. They don't think about things from that pov.

    LOL....fukin lefty bringing up lynching.

    Know your party dipchit.

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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    You’re re-writing history. Trump has NO history of racism. Only after he took power away from the establishment did they go to their standard tactic of racism. They did the same to Ron Paul, the same Ron Paul that treated poor blacks for free all his life and paid their bill too. But as soon as he talks against the power structure and gains momentum: RASAAAAAAAS!!!!!!

    Bullsheit.

    There was never a problem with Trump before the election. Trump’s CEO of his charity organization is a black woman, eats at his house and BBQ with his kids all the time, she spoke on video. Trump let homeless blacks stay at his buildings, and flew people for free when they needed medical emergency treatment on his own jets. Was the first to make a woman a CEO of a major Manhattan skyscraper project. Was the first to desegregate a club where day 1 he said blacks Jews and women can come in and that’s that, he took massive financial and legal losses from members and authorities, but he stuck to his guns.

    Stop swallowing propaganda! You’re a f*cking adult. Turn your TV off.


    It’s embarrassing. You’re like an idiot Soviet Union factory worker, I saw them as a child watching Russian version of CNN, and they swallowed whatever BS was said on it. It was sad. I was 13 years old and knew Soviet TV was lying. How can you not know the same??? The building not renting to blacks thing was debunked ages ago. Trump had nothing to do with any of that, charges were dropped, no admission of guilt by anyone. You think Trump knows what’s happening at his endless properties? Monitors thousands of his employees and their decisions? You think a color blind capitalist that just wants money gives a flying f*ck what color his customers are??? Come on man.
    Trump has been in the spotlight for racial prejudice decades before he was in the political sphere. He isn't being accused of racism because he's the President, he's being accused of racism because he's done and said racist things, and many xenophobic and prejudiced things.

    You're the retard who had to invent an award that you claimed Trump recieved for "bettering black communities" in another thread. Your opinion is 100% worthless garbage.
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    Originally Posted by isingmodel View Post
    Trump has been in the spotlight for racial prejudice decades before he was in the political sphere. He isn't being accused of racism because he's the President, he's being accused of racism because he's done and said racist things, and many xenophobic and prejudiced things.

    You're the retard who had to invent an award that you claimed Trump recieved for "bettering black communities" in another thread. Your opinion is 100% worthless garbage.
    Trump may be a lot of things. One thing he is not is a racist. I think he has shown that over and over and over.

    What is also shown is your very basic level of thinking where all you can do is copy/paste what the left throws out there, hoping it will stick in the simpleton mind.

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    LOL....fukin lefty bringing up lynching.

    Know your party dipchit.

    Right because that totally invalidates everything I said, right? lmfao @ red herring.

    I am just as critical of the racism of the democratic party's past.
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    Originally Posted by isingmodel View Post
    Trump has been in the spotlight for racial prejudice decades before he was in the political sphere. He isn't being accused of racism because he's the President, he's being accused of racism because he's done and said racist things, and many xenophobic and prejudiced things.

    You're the retard who had to invent an award that you claimed Trump recieved for "bettering black communities" in another thread. Your opinion is 100% worthless garbage.
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    Originally Posted by OptimistPrime11 View Post
    Trump may be a lot of things. One thing he is not is a racist. I think he has shown that over and over and over.

    What is also shown is your very basic level of thinking where all you can do is copy/paste what the left throws out there, hoping it will stick in the simpleton mind.

    And for you....it did.
    He has both said and done objectively racist, xenophobic things in the past. Anyone outside of Trumps uneducated and mentally stunted fanbase can recognise that. No, he's not an outward white supremacist, but that doesn't mean he hasn't acted in blatantly prejudiced ways.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post

    I am just as critical of the racism of the democratic party's past.
    So that means you'll pay an extra portion of your allowance for those reparations you support?
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    Originally Posted by BS57 View Post
    So that means you'll pay an extra portion of your allowance for those reparations you support?
    I do not support reparations. Another misrepresentation of my position. Are you ever going to stop being dishonorable and using troll tactics and logical fallacies in discussion?

    I did it the other day for only a few posts and you sissies reported me for spam lmao. It is easy to use MAGA tactics to argue with people. It doesn't mean you make any sense fyi.
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    I do not support reparations. Another misrepresentation of my position. Are you ever going to stop being dishonorable and using troll tactics and logical fallacies in discussion?

    I did it the other day for only a few posts and you sissies reported me for spam lmao. It is easy to use MAGA tactics to argue with people. It doesn't mean you make any sense fyi.
    My bad, using your tactics as a template, let me respond by saying.....





    Big meanie poopie head, doorknob, pinecone, Tulsi, nukleur, January 12.
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    My bad, using your tactics as a template, let me respond by saying.....





    Big meanie poopie head, doorknob, pinecone, Tulsi, nukleur, January 12.
    Wow what a well reasoned and informative post. You'll have to explain the doorknob, pinecone, and January 12 bit to me.
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    I'm done with your derp, go find someone else to provide your self-embarrassment.
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    Originally Posted by isingmodel View Post
    Trump has been in the spotlight for racial prejudice decades before he was in the political sphere. He isn't being accused of racism because he's the President, he's being accused of racism because he's done and said racist things, and many xenophobic and prejudiced things.

    You're the retard who had to invent an award that you claimed Trump recieved for "bettering black communities" in another thread. Your opinion is 100% worthless garbage.
    Can we have an example or a few of his racism?

    Thanks,

    So far we got a black woman CEO of his charity, blacks staying for free at his buildings and flying for medical treatment, and being first at desegregating a segregated club in that area. Now let’s hear your proof. Go:
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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    Can we have an example or a few of his racism?

    Thanks,

    So far we got a black woman CEO of his charity, blacks staying for free at his buildings and flying for medical treatment, and being first at desegregating a segregated club in that area. Now let’s hear your proof. Go:
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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    Can we have an example or a few of his racism?

    Thanks,

    So far we got a black woman CEO of his charity, blacks staying for free at his buildings and flying for medical treatment, and being first at desegregating a segregated club in that area. Now let’s hear your proof. Go:
    Easy, since they're overused the word so much it's diluted to the point of being meaningless.....


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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Define racism.
    Don't act stupid.
    "Do you think SHE actually felt like that was a sexual thing he was doing? She's like 6. Only an actual p3do would think that she thought he was groping her, too."

    "Not that it's impossible to touch a minor inappropriately, but it is true that a 6 year old girl will not recognize someone putting a hand on their chest as groping, whether it is inappropriate or not."

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    Science Fiction (maybe): Trump planned the "go back" comment, in anticipation of the market's response. The comment wasn't racist, in the context. To be racist is to be "prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group". The target of the comment was certainly of a particular racial or ethnic group. But, of course, so is everyone else. There's no evidence that it was motivated via a prejudice, or antagonist, toward her. Could it have been? Sure. Anything could have been. But it's only meaningful if it was. And there's no such evidence. What we're left with are accusations.

    Those accusations evoke curiosity, in this context. Our attention gravitates more toward to accuser than the apparent offender. What is it that motivates such accusations? What are the underlying motives, and what do they inform us about ourselves? And how we're influenced?

    Ironically, I suspect the response (msm) favors Trump. It tells us more about ourselves than him.
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    These are non negotiable facts.
    This is literally the fatal flaw in all of your arguments.
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    Don't act stupid.
    It's not stupid. I need to know what definition of racism he is working with.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Define racism.
    In our modern world I guess racism is acting unfairly (aka discrimination or antagonism) towards a member of another race based on thinking that your race is better.


    This is where the left looses credibility. The old leftist trick of branding everyone who doesn’t agree with you racist doesn’t work as well anymore due to internet and people’s increasing ability to check the claims and call out the BS. It would be so much more productive to debate on merits of policy and record. Like I think Trump is right or Trump is wrong on Iran or this or that. But this constant BS about racism is just stupid.
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    Think these accusations are kinda predictable. The first African American president (POTUS) was elected in 2009. Tupac wouldn't have anticipated that. And it signals significant progress over time. Following that, we might expect some "overshoot". We might expect racism, as a notion, to be overemphasized in the political sphere. It becomes an incredibly powerful motivator of voters. And so we have the emergence of ever more racist accusations. Are more people suddenly racist than 10-20 years ago? Of course not. We're just seeing what's, in essence, an overvaluation of racism as a political mechanism (or motivator). When the market takes notice, that'll claw back. And then we'll see fewer politicians, and media entities, making such accusations. It'll become more difficult to manipulate public opinion via those strategies. And the market will become ever more suspect. People aren't stupid. They eventually catch on to when they're being manipulated, or otherwise influenced. And so these political strategies become counter-productive at some point. But not until there's generally some observable overshoot, like one might expect in financial markets. These are the natural consequences of dynamic systems - overshoot, undershoot.
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