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    Sauna while cutting? Good or bad?

    What's your guys opinion on using the sauna while cutting? I feel like it could cause inaccurate weigh ins due to loosing water weight?

    Also electrolyte loss?

    Waste of time ? Or is the other health benefits worth it.
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    What are you weighing in for? If you're prepping for a comp or fight, dehydration will help you make weight but you will want to be sure to replenish and rehydrate adequately before your performance.

    As for the original question...yes, saunas are an excellent tool to burn fat, lose water weight, burn calories, and detoxify: they facilitate weight loss in general.

    There are different types of sauna. Steam, dry, infrared (far, near, and middle). I use a far infrared sauna almost everyday. This uses infrared waves to penetrate heat deep into the tissues. It is one of the most beneficial for detoxing and weight loss, as you sweat like crazy and burn many calories. One 30 min session in the IR sauna can burn up to 300-600 calories depending on your size. I used to box and they had a sauna in the gym, along with sweat suits (basically giant trash bags with arm and leg holes) to help fighters make weight.

    You will lose electrolytes through your sweat so be sure to replenish. Simplest way is to add a pinch of sea salt and some lemon or lime juice to your water. Electrolyte powders work fine too. Sauna is not a waste of time, I'd say its definitely worth it for the other health benefits and I recommend it to people all the time even if they don't workout.

    Checkout the Joe Rogan interview with Dr. Rhonda Patrick if you want to learn more about the benefits that sauna has to offer. The heat reactive proteins and mitochondria shrinking are the coolest ones IMO and will help your gym performance all around. She claims that sauna is one of the best anti-aging and recovery tools you can utilize.
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    Just weekly weigh ins. I'm not competing or anything but my last coach had me weigh in daily and I did notice a significant difference in weight daily that always fluctuates. I was wondering if stopping the sauna would help get more accurate weigh ins
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    Originally Posted by climbrunlift View Post
    What are you weighing in for? If you're prepping for a comp or fight, dehydration will help you make weight but you will want to be sure to replenish and rehydrate adequately before your performance.

    As for the original question...yes, saunas are an excellent tool to burn fat, lose water weight, burn calories, and detoxify: they facilitate weight loss in general.

    There are different types of sauna. Steam, dry, infrared (far, near, and middle). I use a far infrared sauna almost everyday. This uses infrared waves to penetrate heat deep into the tissues. It is one of the most beneficial for detoxing and weight loss, as you sweat like crazy and burn many calories. One 30 min session in the IR sauna can burn up to 300-600 calories depending on your size. I used to box and they had a sauna in the gym, along with sweat suits (basically giant trash bags with arm and leg holes) to help fighters make weight.

    You will lose electrolytes through your sweat so be sure to replenish. Simplest way is to add a pinch of sea salt and some lemon or lime juice to your water. Electrolyte powders work fine too. Sauna is not a waste of time, I'd say its definitely worth it for the other health benefits and I recommend it to people all the time even if they don't workout.

    Checkout the Joe Rogan interview with Dr. Rhonda Patrick if you want to learn more about the benefits that sauna has to offer. The heat reactive proteins and mitochondria shrinking are the coolest ones IMO and will help your gym performance all around. She claims that sauna is one of the best anti-aging and recovery tools you can utilize.
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    Originally Posted by climbrunlift View Post
    What are you weighing in for? If you're prepping for a comp or fight, dehydration will help you make weight but you will want to be sure to replenish and rehydrate adequately before your performance.

    As for the original question...yes, saunas are an excellent tool to burn fat, lose water weight, burn calories, and detoxify: they facilitate weight loss in general.

    There are different types of sauna. Steam, dry, infrared (far, near, and middle). I use a far infrared sauna almost everyday. This uses infrared waves to penetrate heat deep into the tissues. It is one of the most beneficial for detoxing and weight loss, as you sweat like crazy and burn many calories. One 30 min session in the IR sauna can burn up to 300-600 calories depending on your size. I used to box and they had a sauna in the gym, along with sweat suits (basically giant trash bags with arm and leg holes) to help fighters make weight.

    You will lose electrolytes through your sweat so be sure to replenish. Simplest way is to add a pinch of sea salt and some lemon or lime juice to your water. Electrolyte powders work fine too. Sauna is not a waste of time, I'd say its definitely worth it for the other health benefits and I recommend it to people all the time even if they don't workout.

    Checkout the Joe Rogan interview with Dr. Rhonda Patrick if you want to learn more about the benefits that sauna has to offer. The heat reactive proteins and mitochondria shrinking are the coolest ones IMO and will help your gym performance all around. She claims that sauna is one of the best anti-aging and recovery tools you can utilize.
    LOL, this is great comedy... And about 98% false.
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    For those curious about potential (though far from substantiated) health benefits of sauna: https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.or...275-1/fulltext - do note the authors seem to paint things in a rather positive way.

    If you are worried about water weight fluctuations definitely don't do it. I also don't feel the potential health benefits are worth the time if you are exercising regularly and eat a healthy diet.
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    Originally Posted by Heisman2 View Post
    For those curious about potential (though far from substantiated) health benefits of sauna: https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.or...275-1/fulltext - do note the authors seem to paint things in a rather positive way.

    If you are worried about water weight fluctuations definitely don't do it. I also don't feel the potential health benefits are worth the time if you are exercising regularly and eat a healthy diet.
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    Originally Posted by xsquid99 View Post
    LOL, this is great comedy... And about 98% false.
    I don't see a single false statement. You have any research to counter or are you just here to make assumptions without anything to back them up?
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    Originally Posted by climbrunlift View Post
    I don't see a single false statement. You have any research to counter or are you just here to make assumptions without anything to back them up?
    Please provide research showing that a sauna is “an excellent tool to burn body fat”.
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    And sure, you can lose weight in the form of water, which returns when you re-hydrate. But the false claims of "detoxification" (you have vital organs for this) and high calorie burn are just straight bro/pseudo science. Higher temperatures cause your heart rate to increase, but this increase only causes a slightly higher calorie burn than sitting at rest; certainly not the "hundreds" of calories you're claiming.
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    Originally Posted by climbrunlift View Post
    I don't see a single false statement. You have any research to counter or are you just here to make assumptions without anything to back them up?
    YOU made the claims. No one should have to PROVE you are wrong. You PROVE you are correct. (You can't.)
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    Originally Posted by climbrunlift View Post
    I don't see a single false statement. You have any research to counter or are you just here to make assumptions without anything to back them up?
    You make the claim, you provide the evidence. That's how science works.
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    I saw in a Harvard study that 30 minutes in the sauna only burns 17 calories. Dont think it's worth it but can loose 1-2 pounds of water weight in that time.
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    I’d like to see info on the above claims, if it’s out there it’d be interesting.
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    Shew, I love the sauna as much as the next guy but those claims are ridiculous.

    OP, if you're concerned about the sauna throwing off your weekly weigh-ins, the solution is very simple. Either go to the sauna consistently the night before your weigh-in, or consistently don't go to the sauna the night before your weigh-in. As long as your scale and your routines are consistent, you'll be able to track weight loss effectively. After all, the number doesn't really matter. As long as it's moving down, you're making progress.

    In my experience, I can see as much as 8+ pound water weight swings between going (or not going) to the gym/sauna the night before a weigh in.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    You make the claim, you provide the evidence. That's how science works.
    That's not how science works. Science applies regardless of who makes what claims or what evidence they present. Laws of physics and nature are always present. Here's some simple science for you...

    Infrared sauna sessions significantly increase basal body temperature and metabolic rate due to the ability of IR waves to penetrate deep into tissue and heat cells more effectively. The body must work much harder than usual to prevent overheating. Heart rate increases as well and the result of all this is increased caloric output. It works the same way in very cold temperatures. You are going to burn far more calories sitting in a sauna than you will at room temperature. I shouldn't even need to present studies for this one; it's just simple biology. It doesn't take much intelligence to draw this conclusion, so I'm not surprised you couldn't arrive here on your own.

    However I know you're all going to complain if I don't provide backup every single claim so here you go... have fun putting the links back together. There's a reason I don't just include studies in my posts, especially when the claims presented are easy to google and already backed up by common sense. h ttps://w ww.researchgate.net/publication/15946213_Effect_of_sweating

    Straight from the Journal of the American Medical Association (which cites several studies):

    “Sweating is a part of the complex thermoregulatory process of the body involving substantial increases in heart rate, cardiac output, and metabolic rate, and consumes considerable energy.” 


    and “A moderately conditioned person can easily “sweat off” 500g in a sauna, consuming nearly 300kcal — the equivalent of running 2 to 3 miles.”...

    For good measure, here's some studies proving that compounds such as urea, arsenic, cadmium, and mercury are all found in sweat. This backs up the detox claim. h ttp://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.125.5541&rep=rep1&type=pdf h ttps://w ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3312275/ h ttps://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00244-010-9611-5

    Aaand here's a study on how heat stress impacts mitochondrial biogenesis (heat shock proteins). h ttps://ww w.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jpfsm/6/3/6_151/_pdf/-char/en

    If you have the intellectual capacity, you could always lookup this info yourself and do your own research.

    All of the statements I've made regarding the sauna are well researched and backed up. I wouldn't be making them otherwise. Anyone else out there who wants to claim I'm just spouting off broscience?
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    Not sure what studies to trust - but if you love the sauna, use it. If not, don't. It's incredibly addictive and I would use a sauna every day if I could. Feels amazing!
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    The study from the AMA she quoted, but did not link.... is from 1981.

    It was directly disputed in 1982 in another article in the AMA. But, I'm not paying for access to read more than the abstract.


    That said, I am a fan of the sauna. But if you think sitting in sauna = running 2-3 miles... you're a fool.
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    Originally Posted by clwhoops44 View Post
    The study from the AMA she quoted, but did not link.... is from 1981.

    It was directly disputed in 1982 in another article in the AMA. But, I'm not paying for access to read more than the abstract.


    That said, I am a fan of the sauna. But if you think sitting in sauna = running 2-3 miles... you're a fool.
    I did link it. It's above the quotes.

    Guess that makes me a "fool".

    I think you're a fool to believe that sweating an additional liter of water everyday in the sauna is not going to burn a significant amount of calories. I don't think you realize just how much you sweat in an IR sauna. We're talking puddles on the ground. I have a much higher appetite on days when I spend 1-2 hours in the IR sauna and typically consume an additional 1000 calories or so with no additional exercise and no extra fat gain. Where are all those calories going? Call it "broscience" but I don't think it's normal for a natural 105lb woman to eat 3000+ calories in a day with just 60min of exercise and not get fat over time. My last few minutes in each session are difficult to get through, it feels like I'm doing hard cardio. That's how fast my heart rate gets. I can't imagine any circumstance where spending time in the IR sauna doesn't significantly increase caloric burn rate.
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    Originally Posted by climbrunlift View Post
    I don't think you realize just how much you sweat in an IR sauna.
    Why are all the guys sitting in the sauna still fat? ;-)
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    Originally Posted by CommitmentRulz View Post
    Why are all the guys sitting in the sauna fat?

    And you saw where that 1981 "study" was debunked?
    Lmao normally not one for anecdotes as evidence but this is all too true. My gym has the same over weight people in there every single day at the same time. First world wouldn't have an obesity problem if you could just sweat away 1000 cals without moving. If you ate 1000 cals extra on days you were in the sauna that just means you ate less calories on other days and your weekly average was your maintenance.
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    Sauna can help you excrete metabolic waste faster . However you should make sure to keep your water and electrolyte balance . If you get dehydrated then your metabolism is stalled and your cutting efforts will be compromised
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