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    Do you think it is morally justified to physically assault known White supremacists

    I mean punching them, tackling them, choking them out, etc.

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    No, because your definition of a white supremacist might be different to what an actual "white supremacist" is. You can't just go around sucker punching people.

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    Nope, and I've been assaulted by racist white people before.

    You need to be allowed to say things without threat of violence, as long as your statement isn't a direct threat or invitation to violence itself.

    Otherwise, you're just creating a different protected class (minorities can do what they want).
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    Due to it's subjective nature, any behavior can be justified morally.

    That being said, I personally would not support assaulting someone for simply possessing this perspective. While I do not agree with it, and I acknowledge the terrible things done in the name of it, people can have opinions.

    If someone were to take action because of this mindset, such as hurting people, that goes out of the window.

    It is a pretty neutral stance I take, I feel it is the most appropriate.
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    Originally Posted by umop3pisdn View Post
    No, because your definition of a white supremacist might be different to what an actual "white supremacist" is. You can't just go around sucker punching people.

    by white supremacists, i mean folks like David Duke, Richard Spencer, the Aryan Brotherhood, the Klan, the Proud Boys
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    Originally Posted by Spartanize View Post
    by white supremacists, i mean folks like David Duke, Richard Spencer, the Aryan Brotherhood, the Klan, the Proud Boys
    The opinions of these groups and even their various chapters can vary widely. Out of curiosity I read a website for some southern chapter of the KKK and while clearly prejudice, it was actually pretty mild and made no threats of violence.

    Beating someone up for making stupid but non-threatening statements would be completely unwarranted and frankly un-American.
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    No if they are the minority, yes if they are starting to become majority. If enough people stood up to hitler and his kin in germany, there wouldnt have been the holocaust.
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    Originally Posted by Spartanize View Post
    by white supremacists, i mean folks like David Duke, Richard Spencer, the Aryan Brotherhood, the Klan, the Proud Boys
    You’re clearly a troll. The proud boys? You think people should just be assaulted left and right on the street because they’re in the proud boys?

    But no, even for actual white supremacists, people need to be able to have an opinion. Especially considering how subjective opinions can be, which you have proven by adding in the proud boys to your post. But you’re a troll anyways so..
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    Originally Posted by fballer12 View Post
    You’re clearly a troll. The proud boys? You think people should just be assaulted left and right on the street because they’re in the proud boys?

    But no, even for actual white supremacists, people need to be able to have an opinion. Especially considering how subjective opinions can be, which you have proven by adding in the proud boys to your post. But you’re a troll anyways so..
    Yeah when this phaggot OP mentioned KKK and proud boys in the same sentence it showed me what an absolute brainwashed cuck he is.
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    Originally Posted by HomerJThompson View Post
    No if they are the minority, yes if they are starting to become majority. If enough people stood up to hitler and his kin in germany, there wouldnt have been the holocaust.
    Read into the Reichstag and Enabling Act as well as the timeline of Hitler's rise & the Holocaust. Germany was on the brink of civil war during his rise to power and his intentions in the 30's were not as clear as 1941.

    Plus by this logic, people should be contesting the various level-headed cultural/political norms already established in their countries - simply because they're the majority. There were people who stood up to Hitler (and the NSDAP) before and after his dictatorial reign.
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    I watched a documentary on a modern day kkk group and though they spouted EXTREMELY dumb ****, even beyond racism, all they did was protest peacefully and antagonize a bit(by protesting in largely black areas in SC). Nothing illegal or violent. Not a reason to be able to assault someone.

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    There's one thing I think a lot of people fail to understand. I don't want to defend actual white supremacists, however... Every single person you disagree with has experienced a different set of circumstances throughout the course of their life that molded them into who they are today. If you're born into a muslim extremist family, chances are you will become a muslim extremist out of no fault of your own. When you experience someone opposing you, that may be doing something immoral, just remember, they're only partially responsible for who they became. Have empathy for everyone. We all want the same thing at the end of the day.

    Edit: To the OP, There is no reason to justify violence against another unless they are an immediate physical threat to you. If you're assaulting people because they possess an opposing view, you need to seek therapy and educate yourself because don't we need need people like you polluting our planet with your ignorance.
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    Originally Posted by fballer12 View Post
    You’re clearly a troll. The proud boys? You think people should just be assaulted left and right on the street because they’re in the proud boys?

    But no, even for actual white supremacists, people need to be able to have an opinion. Especially considering how subjective opinions can be, which you have proven by adding in the proud boys to your post. But you’re a troll anyways so..
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    political violence should not be tolerated from either side IMO, no matter what their justifications are.

    Violence begets more violence. If one side strikes and "scores" the other side is going to undoubtedly retaliate. This only further escalates. Look at the bull**** that is happening here in Portland. Antifa and proud boys/patriot prayer having scrimmages in the street. Only a matter of time before someone gets killed in this retardation.
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    The problem is there arent too many white supremacists in existence. Mostly its honest bystanders who end up getting attacked and then labeled as "white supremacists" by the media in order to support left wing violence. It'll be some poor shmuck with a MAGA hat or some student who votes republican.
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    The problem is there arent too many white supremacists in existence. Mostly its honest bystanders who end up getting attacked and then labeled as "white supremacists" by the media in order to support left wing violence. It'll be some poor shmuck with a MAGA hat or some student who votes republican.
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    Chances are if you try it where I live you are going home in an ambulance. White supremacist and nationalists in my country are usually the people that lift and know martial arts and they aren't the fuking neckbeards trying to be edgy and talking chit on the internet.
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