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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    God was talking to the other members of the Trinity.
    PoLyThEiSm!
    John 15:4
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    Man, lots of checkmates being thrown around ITT. All these posts....."checkmate", "checkmate again". One would think something has been shown conclusively, unquestionably to be the case, and no longer to be debated, such as 4+3=7 (which is not debated in any math class). Ah nevermind, it's just a mindless theological debate thread.


    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    MYSTERY SEA CREATURE WASHES UP ON GEORGIA BEACH

    https://www.newsweek.com/mystery-sea...a-beach-850622
    Missed this gem. And how exactly does this "disprove" evolution? For one, I see you are ignoring the fact that the experts are blatantly saying they think it's a decomposed shark of some sort (note the dishonest tactic of this not being mentioned....rather just that it means "evolutionists lie". Why is dishonesty so rampant in fundamentalist arguments....attempting to support Christianity of all religions?). This is the case with many of these loch ness unidentified sea creatures you see always pop up in the news, they are decomposed known species, and these stories are a dime a dozen. One also can't rule out the possibility of hoax. The problem is there appears in this case to be no testable body remaining to examine and say definitively what it is....so no one can say for sure.

    But besides all this......even if this turned out to be something resembling a 200 million year old species (it's almost certainly not).....how does this disprove evolution?
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    Originally Posted by numberguy12 View Post
    Man, lots of checkmates being thrown around ITT. All these posts....."checkmate", "checkmate again". One would think something has been shown conclusively, unquestionably to be the case, and no longer to be debated, such as 4+3=7 (which is not debated in any math class). Ah nevermind, it's just a mindless theological debate thread.




    Missed this gem. And how exactly does this "disprove" evolution? For one, I see you are ignoring the fact that the experts are blatantly saying they think it's a decomposed shark of some sort (note the dishonest tactic of this not being mentioned....rather just that it means "evolutionists lie". Why is dishonesty so rampant in fundamentalist arguments....attempting to support Christianity of all religions?). This is the case with many of these loch ness unidentified sea creatures you see always pop up in the news, they are decomposed known species, and these stories are a dime a dozen. One also can't rule out the possibility of hoax. The problem is there appears in this case to be no testable body remaining to examine and say definitively what it is....so no one can say for sure.

    But besides all this......even if this turned out to be something resembling a 200 million year old species (it's almost certainly not).....how does this disprove evolution?
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    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post
    PoLyThEiSm!
    NOPE. One God, three personalities. You just don't believe what the Bible actually says because you don't understand it. That's not faith. You need to place your FAITH in the Lord and BELIEVE His word, EVEN when you don't understand it.

    Let US make man in OUR Image is God talking to the other members of the Trinity.

    The Bible says that man was made in the image of GOD, NOT the angels.

    So prove me wrong through the scriptures.
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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    One God, three personalities.
    1 Cor 8:6a
    Weymouth New Testament
    yet *we* have but one God, the Father, who is the source of all things and for whose service we exist,

    One God: the Father.

    Not "OnE gOd: tHrEe PeRsOnAlItiEs!"
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    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post
    1 Cor 8:6a
    Weymouth New Testament
    yet *we* have but one God, the Father, who is the source of all things and for whose service we exist,

    One God: the Father.

    Not "OnE gOd: tHrEe PeRsOnAlItiEs!"
    So, you IGNORE the rest of the Bible that proves you wrong and you cling to one verse? EXPLAIN what I asked instead of avoiding it and hiding behind a completely different verse. Where in the Bible does it say that God made man in the image of the Angels?
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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    Where in the Bible does it say that God made man in the image of the Angels?
    Genesis 3:22
    Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—”

    2 Sam 14:17
    "And now your servant says, 'May the word of my lord the king secure my inheritance, for my lord the king is like an angel of God in discerning good and evil. May the LORD your God be with you.'"

    Genesis 3:5
    For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
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    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post
    Genesis 3:22
    Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—”

    2 Sam 14:17
    "And now your servant says, 'May the word of my lord the king secure my inheritance, for my lord the king is like an angel of God in discerning good and evil. May the LORD your God be with you.'"

    Genesis 3:5
    For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
    First of all it doesn't say ANYTHING about man being created in the image of the angels. It says that man knows good from evil like God and the Angels do. Secondly, there is no such verse in the Bible. 2 Samuel only has 12 verses, even if it were, this does not say that man is created in the image of the angels. The Bible is quite clear that man was created in the image of God. No mention of the angels. Lastly, I can't believe you are going to quote something that satan, the liar said to Eve in the Garden to make your false point. Even that monster satan didn't say that they were created in the image of God. he said ye shall be AS Gods, because they will know good from evil. That was a temptation from the cheif liar and you use it to make a point that even that monster isn't making.

    Genesis 1:27 [Full Chapter]
    So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

    Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

    Genesis 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.


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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    2 Samuel only has 12 verses,

    Wuttt?? u drunk boyo?
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    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post
    Wuttt?? u drunk boyo?
    It only have 12 verses, even so, what you posted doesn't say that man was created in the image of the angels. You are spreading false doctrine and you need to repent and turn to Christ for salvation, ask Him to forgive you.
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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    It only have 12 verses,
    2 Samuel has TWENTY-FOUR CHAPTERS. Who knows how many VERSES; definitely not TWELVE.

    If you are this ignorant why would any body listen to you.
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    Point to Mengele, it does have 24 chapters.

    Why u so unbiblical Paddington?
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    By the way, this was OP's original question:

    Originally Posted by Paddington
    Also, In Genesis, Why did God say "Let Us Make Man In OUR Image" ? Who was God talking to?
    ^ in bold. "Who was God talking to"

    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post
    God was talking to angels.
    OP keeps blabbering about how I am saying we were "created in the image of angels", but notice I never actually said that. I only said God was speaking to angels.

    Yes, we were made in God's image, not, "in the image of angels", but evidently, so were the angels, who were created before man, and who were there when the earth was created.

    OP believes that God (presumably the Father), was speaking to "the other members of the Triune Godhead". Which would be polytheism.

    But, OP isn't even a real trinitarian, anyway, as he believes Jesus is the Father; so he is actually "Oneness", not a trin.
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    2 Samuel has TWENTY-FOUR CHAPTERS. Who knows how many VERSES; definitely not TWELVE.

    If you are this ignorant why would any body listen to you.
    My point was that the Bible was looking at only listed 2 Sam CHAPTER 14 only having only twelve verses, yet you quote through verse 17.

    Secondly, I found a version that had it and looked at the context of your faulty argument. First of all, This verse isn't addressing the Lord, God. It's addressing a human King. Secondly, even if it WERE, it in no way would infer that people were created in the image of the angels.

    17 Then thine handmaid said, The word of my lord the king shall now be comfortable: for as an angel of God, so is my lord the king to discern good and bad: therefore the Lord thy God will be with thee.
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    Point to Mengele, it does have 24 chapters.

    Why u so unbiblical Paddington?
    I said VERSES. Point Paddington.
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    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post
    By the way, this was OP's original question:



    ^ in bold. "Who was God talking to"



    OP keeps blabbering about how I am saying we were "created in the image of angels", but notice I never actually said that. I only said God was speaking to angels.

    Yes, we were made in God's image, not, "in the image of angels", but evidently, so were the angels, who were created before man, and who were there when the earth was created.

    OP believes that God (presumably the Father), was speaking to "the other members of the Triune Godhead". Which would be polytheism.

    But, OP isn't even a real trinitarian, anyway, as he believes Jesus is the Father; so he is actually "Oneness", not a trin.
    The Bible says "Let us make man in OUR image". God was talking to the other members of the Trinity. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ is one with the Father and the Spirit is what I am saying. They are all the same God. It's not my fault that you don't believe the Scriptures.

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    My point was that the Bible was looking at only listed 2 Sam CHAPTER 14 only having only twelve verses, yet you quote through verse 17.
    2 Sam, Chapter 14, has THIRTY-THREE verses.

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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    I said VERSES. Point Paddington.
    No.. you have no acquired points. 2 Sam 14 doesn't have 12 verses, it has 33. Lol.
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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    The Bible says "Let us make man in OUR image". God was talking to the other members of the Trinity. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.
    That would either be one god talking to two other gods (more than one god/polytheism), OR, one god talking to his other personalities (split personality disorder god).

    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    Jesus Christ is one with the Father and the Spirit is what I am saying. They are all the same God.
    You're just making stuff up.

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    When was Jesus Christ created?
    He's eternal. Not a created being.
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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    even if it WERE, it in no way would infer that people were created in the image of the angels.
    Huh, that's funny; I thought we covered already how I'm not saying that we were made "in the image of angels".

    Why you repeatin' that, dum dum?

    The verse from 2 Sam 14 shows that when God says "He has become like one of us" it means "like an angel" or "godlike" in knowing good and evil. But I don't think you'd be able to understand this.. It's for the other readers of this post.
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    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post
    That would either be one god talking to two other gods (more than one god/polytheism), OR, one god talking to his other personalities (split personality disorder god).

    You're just making stuff up.

    He's eternal. Not a created being.
    Well it can't be One God talking to two other Gods because there is only one God.

    1 Timothy 2:5 [Full Chapter]
    For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

    Duet 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:

    Your second answer is in fact right it is one God talking to His other personalities. That's what I have been saying all along.

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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    Well it can't be One God talking to two other Gods because there is only one God.
    Who said God was talking to another God at all?

    There were angels there.

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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post

    1 Timothy 2:5 [Full Chapter]
    For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
    Yep, One God, the Father.

    One Mediator: Jesus Christ.

    1 Cor 8:6

    That means no "second mediator/intercessor/advocate" called "the holy spirit of the trinity".

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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    Duet 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:
    Yes, this is the shema. It's referring to God. The LORD. THE Father. Not Jesus. Adonai not adoni.
    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    Your second answer is in fact right it is one God talking to His other personalities. That's what I have been saying all along.
    That's wrong. God does not have split personalities. You are a "Oneness" not even a trin by the way. Trins would be disgusted by you saying God was talking to other personalities. That's heresy.

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    Also Correct, Christ is eternal, not a created being because He is in fact GOD.
    Eternal, yes, but not the One God. That is the Father.
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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    My point was that the Bible was looking at only listed 2 Sam CHAPTER 14 only having only twelve verses, yet you quote through verse 17.

    Secondly, I found a version that had it and looked at the context of your faulty argument. First of all, This verse isn't addressing the Lord, God. It's addressing a human King. Secondly, even if it WERE, it in no way would infer that people were created in the image of the angels.

    17 Then thine handmaid said, The word of my lord the king shall now be comfortable: for as an angel of God, so is my lord the king to discern good and bad: therefore the Lord thy God will be with thee.
    Lol at how ridiculous this post is. Clearly Paddington was wrong about the number of verses in 2 Samuel (his first post saying the entire book has 12 verses, then changing it to just the 14th chapter has 12 verses).

    What does he do when called out on this? Own up to it and simply say "yeah, I was wrong" like a normal person? Nope. Now it's......the version of Bible he was looking at? Lmao which bible are you looking at for 2 Samuel 14 to have only 12 verses? Note the typical dishonesty rampant in the posts....there just won't be a simple admission that he was wrong. Can't let people see you make any flawed statements ever....gotta cover up the tracks.

    Also lol at the words getting increasingly larger and bolder in the posts in here. I guess that's how you "solve" a question that has no answer....simply resort to shouting louder and louder. That'll be sure to check mate em.
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    Originally Posted by numberguy12 View Post
    Lol at how ridiculous this post is. Clearly Paddington was wrong about the number of verses in 2 Samuel (his first post saying the entire book has 12 verses, then changing it to just the 14th chapter has 12 verses).

    What does he do when called out on this? Own up to it and simply say "yeah, I was wrong" like a normal person? Nope. Now it's......the version of Bible he was looking at? Lmao which bible are you looking at that has 2 Samuel 14 having only 12 verses? Note the typical dishonesty rampant in the posts....there just won't be a simple admission that he was wrong. Can't let people see you make any flawed statements ever....gotta cover up the tracks.

    Also lol at the words getting increasingly larger and bolder in the posts ITT. I guess that's how you "solve" a question that has no answer....simply resort to shouting louder and louder. That'll be sure to check mate em.
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    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post
    Who said God was talking to another God at all?

    There were angels there.

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    There MAY have been angels there and there MAY not have been. It doesn't matter because He wasn't talking to them. It says let US make man in OUR image. Man was NOT made the in the image of the angels, THEREFORE, God was not talking to the angels. God was talking to the other members of the Trinity. Father, Son & Spirit. I know that there was an angel in the Garden of Eden and I know satan was there as well, but no one knows how long they existed. Either way, it doesn't matter because God wasn't referring to creating man in the image of angels. It's clear that He was talking to the other members of the Trinity.


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    Originally Posted by numberguy12 View Post
    Lol at how ridiculous this post is. Clearly Paddington was wrong about the number of verses in 2 Samuel (his first post saying the entire book has 12 verses, then changing it to just the 14th chapter has 12 verses).

    What does he do when called out on this? Own up to it and simply say "yeah, I was wrong" like a normal person? Nope. Now it's......the version of Bible he was looking at? Lmao which bible are you looking at for 2 Samuel 14 to have only 12 verses? Note the typical dishonesty rampant in the posts....there just won't be a simple admission that he was wrong. Can't let people see you make any flawed statements ever....gotta cover up the tracks.

    Also lol at the words getting increasingly larger and bolder in the posts in here. I guess that's how you "solve" a question that has no answer....simply resort to shouting louder and louder. That'll be sure to check mate em.
    He lost the debate. Logic failed him. The version I was looking at DID only have 12 verses. The bold statements are a RESPONSE to BrosefMengle doing the same thing. Go back and scroll up.

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