View Poll Results: DO YOU PLACE YOUR FAITH IN CHRIST ALONE FOR SALVATION BELIEVING HE DIED N ROSE AGAIN?

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  • I ALREADY PLACED MY FAITH IN CHRIST AND HIS SACRIFICE FOR MY SINS

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    Please pray for me brothers. My name is Austin. My soul longs for the Creator.
    Ok friend. I will pray right now. God bless.
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    Originally Posted by Austin805 View Post
    Please pray for me brothers. My name is Austin. My soul longs for the Creator.
    Any updates on your brother?
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    Ok friend. I will pray right now. God bless.
    Your prayers are abominations.
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    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post
    Your prayers are abominations.
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    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post
    Your prayers are abominations.
    Wrong. The Lord is the true God of the Universe and He answers prayer.
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    You mean the blasphemous approach.
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    15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

    2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

    3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

    4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

    5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:

    6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.

    7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
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    Originally Posted by BrosefMengele View Post
    Your prayers are abominations.

    Proverbs 21:2

    Every man's way is right in his own eyes, But the Lord weighs the hearts.
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    Originally Posted by PowerOfTruth View Post
    Proverbs 21:2

    Every man's way is right in his own eyes, But the Lord weighs the hearts.
    Yes the Lord is the judge.
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    AG Barr: Growing secularism pushing out religion
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    PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES

    ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

    There are some things that you should know:

    1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

    Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

    Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

    It all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.

    2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross:

    Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

    Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

    Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Lying, stealing, sex before marriage, pride, hatred, ect. are all sins. Hell is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already sinned, which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the President can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die. You won’t have to pay for your own sins because Jesus already did that for you. But if you reject the pardon that He offers, you will have to pay for your own sins by going to hell.

    3. If you will confess Jesus Christ as Your Lord, place your Faith in Him and Believe in your heart that He died, shed His blood and rose again as a sacrifice for your sins, you will be saved (from hell).

    Eph 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

    Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

    You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but your Faith must be in Christ and His sacrifice alone and nothing else, giving your life to Him.

    Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

    Romans 3:25 "Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;"

    4. You must place your Faith in Jesus Christ believing in your heart that He died and rose again shedding His blood to pay for your sins as a sacrifice to God. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, Pray this prayer from your heart to God in Faith:

    ”Dear Lord Jesus I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead, shedding your blood as a Sacrifice for my sins. I repent and turn to You as the only way of salvation, I give my life to you, placing my Faith and Trust in You as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”

    If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
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    You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but your Faith must be in Christ and His sacrifice alone and nothing else, giving your life to Him.
    Bummer for all those people born into uncontacted tribes. Thems the bad luck I guess.

    Imagine if Paddington was born into one of these tribes, oblivious to the modern world. Instead of screeching about salvation like a religious fanatic you might see on the street corner (ok, it's a bodybuilding forum not a street corner, but you get the picture)....he wouldn't be speaking one bit about Jesus, having never even heard of any of this. And then it would be straight to hell, since according to the post above, you must turn to Jesus and believe he died on the cross and rose from the dead. No ifs, and, or buts. So the only thing really, at the end of the day, separating this Paddington posting, from that Paddington hypothetically born into an uncontacted tribe is.....luck. Hell comes down to luck in this sense for Paddington.
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    Bummer for all those people born into uncontacted tribes. Thems the bad luck I guess.

    Imagine if Paddington was born into one of these tribes, oblivious to the modern world. Instead of screeching about salvation like a religious fanatic you might see on the street corner (ok, it's a bodybuilding forum not a street corner, but you get the picture)....he wouldn't be speaking one bit about Jesus, having never even heard of any of this. And then it would be straight to hell, since according to the post above, you must turn to Jesus and believe he died on the cross and rose from the dead. No ifs, and, or buts. So the only thing really, at the end of the day, separating this Paddington posting, from that Paddington hypothetically born into an uncontacted tribe is.....luck. Hell comes down to luck in this sense for Paddington.
    There have been many accounts of God revealing Himself to these people in dreams and through missionaries and other ways. God knows what He is doing. I will keep proclaiming the Gospel.
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    There have been many accounts of God revealing Himself to these people in dreams and through missionaries and other ways. God knows what He is doing. I will keep proclaiming the Gospel.
    Nope, missionaries are not in contact with some of these tribes....you know, the entire concept of uncontacted tribes (see the Sentinelese for example). Or heck, just use a historical example, a Native American living in North America around 800 AD.

    You can make up stories about "God showing himself" in visions, but this means nothing, anyone can say whatever with zero evidence: if you could somehow objectively test whether these people know who Jesus is, the specific person from the Bible, there would be utter confusion.

    What do you think the percentage of Christians is in the population of humans, on say, North Sentinel Island? You think it's high, or even medium high? (Lol). No, the answer is there are no Christians.....so actually it does come down to luck. If you were born into this uncontacted tribe, you would simply not be Christian. Hell comes down to luck for you.
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    Originally Posted by numberguy12 View Post
    Nope, missionaries are not in contact with some of these tribes....you know, the entire concept of uncontacted tribes (see the Sentinelese for example). Or heck, just use a historical example, a Native American living in North America around 800 AD.

    You can make up stories about "God showing himself" in visions, but this means nothing, anyone can say whatever with zero evidence: if you could somehow objectively test whether these people know who Jesus is, the specific person from the Bible, there would be utter confusion.

    What do you think the percentage of Christians is in the population of humans, on say, North Sentinel Island? You think it's high, or even medium high? (Lol). No, the answer is there are no Christians.....so actually it does come down to luck. If you were born into this uncontacted tribe, you would simply not be Christian. Hell comes down to luck for you.
    There are plenty of stories of Jesus Christ revealing Himself to these people in many different ways. Missionaries will also tell you that 50% of all muslims that come to Christ do so because of a dream or vision from Jesus Christ Himself.
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    There are plenty of stories of Jesus Christ revealing Himself to these people in many different ways. Missionaries will also tell you that 50% of all muslims that come to Christ do so because of a dream or vision from Jesus Christ Himself.
    Sorry, there just isn't evidence of this. Notwithstanding, I can assure you the percentage of inhabitants of North Sentinel Island who identify as Christian is zero. If you were born onto this island into the uncontacted tribe, you simply would not be Christian. If nothing else, it's just a matter of basic statistics. This is a matter of luck.
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    Sorry, there just isn't evidence of this. Notwithstanding, I can assure you the percentage of inhabitants of North Sentinel Island who identify as Christian is zero. If you were born onto this island into the uncontacted tribe, you simply would not be Christian. If nothing else, it's just a matter of basic statistics. This is a matter of luck.
    OVER HALF OF ALL MUSLIMS THAT CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY SAY IT'S BECAUSE JESUS APPEARED TO THEM IN A DREAM OR VISION:

    Imam tells Christians how demons came to take his life When He Died: (He Woke Up Later To His Family Preparing His Body For Burial):

    “Suddenly overcome by faintness, he fell to the ground. As he slipped into unconsciousness, he witnessed demons arriving on the scene – intent, he says, on taking his soul,” the report said.

    The account from Bibles for Mideast:

    “Get lost, you cursed demons of Allah!” he yelled at them as best he could. “You have no right to take my soul!”

    “No,” they responded. “It is our right to take your life.” He says they then forcefully “took his soul.”

    As the demons turned to leave, Jesus himself suddenly appeared, Munaf reports, flanked by a vast array of angels. The demons fled in terror.

    “Listen, my son,” Jesus said to Munaf. “The first Adam disobeyed God and sinned against Him under the pressure of Satan. The gates of heaven were shut down because of his sin.

    “I am the second Adam, the Word of God and Messiah Jesus, Son of the Most High. I was born of the Virgin Mary as a sinless Son of Man to redeem the first Adam and all of his descendants – including you – from sin and death. I was crucified and died as a ransom for all for your sins, to make you a child of God and citizen of heaven.”

    “I rose from the dead and opened the gates of heaven to bring you to eternal glory. Have faith in me and be my witness. I give you your life back, for I have the authority to give life.”

    Imam tells Christians how demons came to take his life:

    https://www.wnd.com/2017/10/imam-tel...liyWX8qgdqatyk
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    Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    OVER HALF OF ALL MUSLIMS THAT CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY SAY IT'S BECAUSE JESUS APPEARED TO THEM IN A DREAM OR VISION:

    Imam tells Christians how demons came to take his life When He Died: (He Woke Up Later To His Family Preparing His Body For Burial):

    “Suddenly overcome by faintness, he fell to the ground. As he slipped into unconsciousness, he witnessed demons arriving on the scene – intent, he says, on taking his soul,” the report said.

    The account from Bibles for Mideast:

    “Get lost, you cursed demons of Allah!” he yelled at them as best he could. “You have no right to take my soul!”

    “No,” they responded. “It is our right to take your life.” He says they then forcefully “took his soul.”

    As the demons turned to leave, Jesus himself suddenly appeared, Munaf reports, flanked by a vast array of angels. The demons fled in terror.

    “Listen, my son,” Jesus said to Munaf. “The first Adam disobeyed God and sinned against Him under the pressure of Satan. The gates of heaven were shut down because of his sin.

    “I am the second Adam, the Word of God and Messiah Jesus, Son of the Most High. I was born of the Virgin Mary as a sinless Son of Man to redeem the first Adam and all of his descendants – including you – from sin and death. I was crucified and died as a ransom for all for your sins, to make you a child of God and citizen of heaven.”

    “I rose from the dead and opened the gates of heaven to bring you to eternal glory. Have faith in me and be my witness. I give you your life back, for I have the authority to give life.”

    Imam tells Christians how demons came to take his life:

    https://www.wnd.com/2017/10/imam-tel...liyWX8qgdqatyk
    Besides the fact that literally anyone can make up a story, this still isn't specifically relevant to the point of uncontacted tribes....it's one thing for a Muslim, who is aware of who Jesus is, to go on and on about some "vision" of Jesus.....but I can assure you, the people on an island, who have no idea of who Jesus is whatsoever, are not "converting" to something they simply don't even know, lol. What, honestly, Paddington, do you think the percentage of Christians is in the uncontacted tribe on North Sentinel island? Do you think it's high? Do you think it's like half? Is it even like 5%? (it is basically crazy to think any of this- no, these people are not even aware of the religion). This is the end of the argument right here- you would not be Christian if you were born onto this island. Thus hell = luck for you, based on your criteria for what it takes to get into heaven.

    I couldn't care less about the made up statistics you reference about made up visions of Jesus happening to people in modern society. Funny enough, whatever you are even trying to say, actually brings up additional questions, like why is Jesus randomly appearing to some people on earth and not others- seems to be awfully picky and choosey, when things like a supposed eternity of hell is at stake. Kind of strange.

    The above is actually allowing free will to exist, noting that it still comes down to luck- you wont be Christian if you are born, live, and die without ever hearing about Jesus. Statistically you also wont likely be Christian if you are born into geographical regions/cultures that are not dominated by Christianity. But the kicker is that without free will- and it seems that free will probably doesn't exist even if could be defined adequately- it certainly comes down to luck for everyone. No one "chooses" to believe in Jesus and be Christian, when choose itself is a meaningless concept.

    I will reiterate: if you were born into the Sentinelese or some other uncontacted tribe, you simply would not be rambling about salvation through Jesus on an internet forum. (or the equivalent corresponding to the uncontacted tribe: shouting about Jesus at some kind of gathering of people in the community...a ritual or something).
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    PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES

    ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?
    There are some things that you should know:

    1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

    Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

    Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

    It all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.

    2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross:

    Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

    Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

    Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Lying, stealing, sex before marriage, pride, hatred, ect. are all sins. Hell is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already sinned, which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the President can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die. You won’t have to pay for your own sins because Jesus already did that for you. But if you reject the pardon that He offers, you will have to pay for your own sins by going to hell.
    3. If you will confess Jesus Christ as Your Lord, place your Faith in Him and Believe in your heart that He died, shed His blood and rose again as a sacrifice for your sins, you will be saved (from hell).

    Eph 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

    Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

    You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but your Faith must be in Christ and His sacrifice alone and nothing else, giving your life to Him.
    Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

    Romans 3:25 "Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;"

    4. You must place your Faith in Jesus Christ believing in your heart that He died and rose again shedding His blood to pay for your sins as a sacrifice to God. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, Pray this prayer from your heart to God in Faith:

    ”Dear Lord Jesus I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead, shedding your blood as a Sacrifice for my sins. I repent and turn to You as the only way of salvation, I give my life to you, placing my Faith and Trust in You as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”

    If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
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