I decided at around 167lbs in 2009 that I wanted to bulk after reading one too many FLEX magazines.
My usual amount of calories beforehand was just over 2100...and somehow got in my mind that I needed close to 5000 like someone's nutrition plan I'd read about.
So for 3 weeks I made myself sick trying to eat that amount every day. Spent most of the day eating and visiting the toilet.
Anybody else do anything near as stupid as beginners? This may help out any others that are starting up.
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06-25-2019, 07:57 AM #1
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Dumbest Newbie Thing You've Done On A Nutrition Plan
I have a good joke about water retention. But I'm going to hold onto it for now.
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06-25-2019, 08:32 AM #2
I did something similar when I first started but for 3 years...lol. Ate 4000-5000cal/day. I just ate everything I could get my hands on, trained balls out, and was very very consistent. Could count on one hand how many training sessions I missed during that span.
Built a solid foundation though and some serious strength. Definitely put on unneeded bodyfat and that kind of surplus wasn't needed. It was fun eating though! Went from starting weight of ~170lbs to ~220lbs...lol. Not a huge deal though. Easy to cut. Much harder to gain.Curing Disease.
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06-25-2019, 08:39 AM #3
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Mainly just eating boring ass crap 8 times a day for a long time...
I went through a purist phase in college for like a year where it was almost entirely egg whites, oats, broccoli, chicken, whey... and I was obsessed with spacing them out every 2-3 hours."When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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06-25-2019, 08:41 AM #4
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06-25-2019, 08:42 AM #5
I also was doing something very similar when I first started my fitness journey. I was a complete dumbass. I didn't pay attention to calories or what I was putting into my body. I just wanted to get big. I ate 5-6 times a day, huge meals. And I also drank mass gainers in addition to other supplements. I would feel like **** after every meal. I stopped with that nonsense after 6 weeks of hating myself.
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06-25-2019, 09:26 AM #6
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06-25-2019, 09:56 AM #9
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06-25-2019, 10:31 AM #11
Too many to list I feel:
Too little sodium
Too much water
Too much protein – still struggle with this to a degree, I feel
Too little calories and then trying to gain more muscle, but stay lean
Not ever eating fast food or dessert items – biggest mistake – still smart to keep them more to a minimum though
Taking countless supps – fat burners, preworkouts
Caring too much about my physique in terms of who it makes me as a person
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06-25-2019, 10:40 AM #12
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I definitely bought CLA back in the day, but I think the dumbest supplement I ever bought simply because of how long I used it for was BCAA's... i used to drink them religiously (xtend) sipping all day because I thought it would help me so much. Also took a lot of random supplements like vitargo post workout, etc, in large amounts cuz of course I needed it...
"When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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06-25-2019, 10:43 AM #13
A young me was convinced by a GNC employee to purchase CLA as a liquid you consume with a spoon. It was facking nasty and its still my biggest supplement regret. Dumbest thing I've done would be trying to eat 100% clean with stupid amounts of baked chicken, rice and broccoli then eventually binging on anything with flavor.
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Deadlift: 535
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06-25-2019, 11:04 AM #14
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06-25-2019, 12:10 PM #16
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06-25-2019, 01:13 PM #17
I did exactly the same thing 10 years ago and went from and to very similar weights. My size and strength went through the roof, but I gained a lot of fat. I looked great with a shirt on but not too good naked. Sadly I gave up before I ever had the chance to cut!
10 years on I had to spend almost a year cutting - sadly the muscle and strength gains were long gone by then. I'm now back down to around 165 pounds.
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06-25-2019, 04:17 PM #18
When I was in highschool I convinced myself I was a hardgainer and bought a stupid amount of gainer powder on sale. The first one I mixed up double the amount it called for and slammed the resultant 3000 calorie goo and promptly yakked it up. I still believed I needed like 4000 calories a day for my 120 pound self to gain any weight.
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06-25-2019, 04:33 PM #19
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Pretty much what I did, but I did it all with food. My mum wasn't too pleased I needed the cooker every 2 hours or my anabolic window would be sacrificed. I was 170-ish pounds going for about 5k calories a day.
I did forge a relationship with the toilet bowl on a few occasions.I have a good joke about water retention. But I'm going to hold onto it for now.
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06-25-2019, 04:37 PM #20
I've gone through a few diets. Fortunately, I tend to obsessively research everything I do before I do it, and I'm generally in favor of a balanced diet, which means that I haven't made huge mistakes in terms of what I actually put into my body. The stupidity comes in when I try to create systems for figuring out what to put into my body and tracking it. In short, I have a tendency to be a bit OCD.
For example, over the winter I decided to try and control/keep track of what I was eating, including all of the macronutrients and micronutrients. I created a massive spreadsheet, with the macronutrients and micronutrients on the top (calories, protein, carbs, and fat, with the cals, grams, and % for each; fiber, sugar, omega-3s, omega-6s, omega-3/omega-6 ratio, and 12 other micronutrients). I set a daily goal for each macro- and micronutrient based on daily recommendations. I had a massive list of 270 ingredients in the left column. Then I looked up all the macro- and micronutrients for every ingredient and put them in my spreadsheet. The system was such that I could put in the grams for each ingredient that I ate and the spreadsheet would spit out the totals for each nutrient at the top, so I could see if I had met my goals.
As can be expected, once I started using the spreadsheet I started going a little bananas. If you thought balancing four dietary goals was hard (calories, protein, fat, carbs), try balancing 26. Potassium was a daily struggle. Getting enough fiber while keeping my carbs down was a tightrope walk. Getting enough omega-3 without blowing through my fat allotment was a near thing. I realized that even though I had 270 ingredients on there, every other day or so, I would encounter a new ingredient not on my spreadsheet and I would have to input all the nutrients for that thing. In order for it to be accurate, I had to weigh each ingredient I cooked with (or convert, for example, cups to grams). I'm seventeen now, so my mother often cooked dinners, and she for sure wasn't going to weigh her ingredients. I estimated by using the recipe and then converting the measurements to grams. I had to dedicate a significant amount of time each day just to tracking my nutrients.
I lasted about a month, which I'm honestly proud of. I'm sure that during that month my diet was better than it has ever been before or since, but my mind went kapoot. My knuckles honestly got scaly from the stress.
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06-25-2019, 05:46 PM #22
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06-25-2019, 09:36 PM #23
Going down the Keto/alt nutrition/ podcast rabbit hole.
Biggest doozy was buying the book on Carb Backloading, and actually doing 10 days of carb backloading. Or maybe I only lasted only 7 days? Can't recall. Although it was pretty awesome crushing a Digiorno pizza, a dozen buffalo wings, and a tray of cinnamon rolls on the last day, and actually thinking I would get something out of it. I think I realized shortly after that it was absurd, but still stayed on keto for a few months, when I finally came to my senses and started a more well rounded diet.
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06-25-2019, 10:16 PM #24
Yeah, it was pretty intense. The upside is that I learned tons about the nutrition of different foods and I got really, really good at Google Sheets. I think I might do a very, very simplified version of the spreadsheet once I'm in college (since the college I'm going to fortunately has a website with macros for the meals it offers).
I know that there are apps that kind of do the same thing as this, but for some reason it doesn't work for me unless I build it myself and understand how it works. It doesn't make any sense, but for some reason the apps just end up bugging me.
Currently I am back to winging it and, as of this morning, literally just throwing stuff in a pan. I hope it works out. There's this psyllium fiber stuff that I've been mixing into water in the morning- it's only 18 calories a serving and tastes like sawdusty jello but feels like a meal. I also ordered a new thing of protein powder, which I like to mix into almond milk. Crossing my fingers that I don't get fatter than I am now!
I attached what I could of my spreadsheet. I couldn't zoom out any farther, haha.
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