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    Originally Posted by Mike1991 View Post
    Someone's mad they are weak as fuk. Better yet I used to bench out the 180s but the gym I'm at only has up to 150s now

    U mad some people actually push themselves?
    He's jealous of you, bro, jealous that you can lift heavier dumbbells than he can.

    Next thing you know he'll start calling you "a tranny" because you can lift more than him haha!
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    Originally Posted by bobbydigitaloa View Post
    That’s because you’re a lazy bag of human waste that doesn’t frequent a gym so you probably don’t see many things lifting related.
    Because juicing diet gives them strength they don't really have.
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    Originally Posted by xLostxAngelx View Post
    Because juicing diet gives them strength they don't really have.
    A juice diet is needed to rep 85's? Oops...
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    Originally Posted by 78novacaine View Post
    A juice diet is needed to rep 85's? Oops...
    Guess it also depends if you're talking about half-assed reps.

    Your arms need to come out to the side in a wide L, then up and in to the center of the chest.
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    Originally Posted by xLostxAngelx View Post
    Guess it also depends if you're talking about half-assed reps.

    Your arms need to come out to the side in a wide L, then up and in to the center of the chest.
    I'm not strong or big and I'm at 110x5-6...


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    Originally Posted by 78novacaine View Post
    A juice diet is needed to rep 85's? Oops...
    The bloody hell is "a juice diet"?

    Oranges and apples?

    The phuck?
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    Originally Posted by jk202 View Post
    I'm not strong or big and I'm at 110x5-6...


    Incline
    Incline dumbbell press is easier, because you have more leverage in the push from the incline, and your arms don't come down as far and wide. They sink into the lats and rear shoulders, which offer immense support. On the flat bench, it's all in the chest to stabilize the weight when it comes out to the sides of your body properly and sinks below your pec-line.
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    Originally Posted by xLostxAngelx View Post
    Guess it also depends if you're talking about half-assed reps.

    Your arms need to come out to the side in a wide L, then up and in to the center of the chest.
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    Originally Posted by xLostxAngelx View Post
    Guess it also depends if you're talking about half-assed reps.

    Your arms need to come out to the side in a wide L, then up and in to the center of the chest.
    Your arms don't have to come out wide lol, tucking elbows is safer and actually usually harder. You're full of chit.

    Either way, most people naturally should be able to get a good set of 8-10 with 85lbs within 1-2 years of lifting. It's really not much... at all
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    Originally Posted by 78novacaine View Post
    A juice diet is needed to rep 85's? Oops...
    It had to be true.

    Before seeing a doctor, I couldn’t do 85 once and after, I can do like 85x40 flat.

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    Originally Posted by bobbydigitaloa View Post
    It had to be true.

    Before seeing a doctor, I couldn’t do 85 once and after, I can do like 85x40 flat.

    lol imagine if that was true.
    So...a "juice diet" is (illegal/prescription) drugs?

    I can easily rep 88s (highest in my gym) and I don't even use "juice". Random idiots like to make themselves feel better thinking that I inject, but that just shows what jealous dummies they are.
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    Originally Posted by TappingTheZen View Post
    Your arms don't have to come out wide lol, tucking elbows is safer and actually usually harder. You're full of chit.

    Either way, most people naturally should be able to get a good set of 8-10 with 85lbs within 1-2 years of lifting. It's really not much... at all
    Negative OP.

    The circuit for the chest muscles works from side to side across the body. Thus, only moves that bring the arms in towards the body (and out to the sides) properly isolate the chest. Tucking your elbows is detracting from isolation, and large portions of your fibers are receiving no activation in dynamic exertion; they are remaining neutral as a stabilizer. You will never develop a full form factor in your chest this way.
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    Originally Posted by HannoCometh View Post
    So...a "juice diet" is (illegal/prescription) drugs?

    I can easily rep 88s (highest in my gym) and I don't even use "juice". Random idiots like to make themselves feel better thinking that I inject, but that just shows what jealous dummies they are.
    It was a joke...85’s are stupidly easy.

    I do DB flat flies with 90’s
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    Originally Posted by 78novacaine View Post
    RIP in peace shoulders...
    I feel like that gets a bad rap because noobs press flared, throw 135 on and then use the weight to force themselves to touch the bar to their chest when they don't have the mobility to do so

    I'm not out at 90, but pretty flared

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    Originally Posted by xLostxAngelx View Post
    Negative OP.

    The circuit for the chest muscles works from side to side across the body. Thus, only moves that bring the arms in towards the body isolate the chest. Tucking your elbows is detracting from isolation, and large portions of your fibers are receiving no activation in dynamic exertion; they are remaining neutral as a stabilizer. You will never develop a full form factor in your chest this way.
    Yes you will, unless dumbbell press is the only fukkin movement you ever do for your chest. But who was bench, incline bench, flyes etc.

    I'll take lifting into my older years, over lifting for 5 years 'optimally' then not being able to anymore because i've destroyed my rotator cuffs from impingement causes by excessively flaring my elbows on presses.

    Either way, jumping straight to 'juice' because of 85lb DB press is retarded. With any form, 85lbs is a piece of piss for anyone who has lifted consistently for a decent amount of time.
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    Originally Posted by bobbydigitaloa View Post
    It was a joke...85’s are stupidly easy.

    I do DB flat flies with 90’s
    Oh, sorry lol hahahaha

    Have a grey as compensation.
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    Originally Posted by TappingTheZen View Post
    ... i've destroyed my rotator cuffs from impingement causes by excessively flaring my elbows on presses.
    No you didn't OP. Anything you break-down the body builds back up stronger. What destroyed your rotator cuffs was a chit diet, that didn't include enough carbs and fatty acids, so that your body was thrown into Ketosis too often (for too long), and your collagen structures were broken down cannibalized in the process.
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    Originally Posted by bobbydigitaloa View Post
    It was a joke...85’s are stupidly easy.

    I do DB flat flies with 90’s
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    Originally Posted by jk202 View Post
    I feel like that gets a bad rap because noobs press flared, throw 135 on and then use the weight to force themselves to touch the bar to their chest when they don't have the mobility to do so

    I'm not out at 90, but pretty flared
    I think it's a mobility issue for most. I'm pretty flexible and can bench elbows flared out and not have any shoulder issues.

    Originally Posted by bobbydigitaloa View Post
    I do DB flat flies with 90’s
    That's real heavy. How is your form? I see a lot of guys doing flyes without going deep. Or they turn it into a half pressing movement when coming back up.
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    Originally Posted by xLostxAngelx View Post
    No you didn't OP. Anything you break-down the body builds back up stronger. What destroyed your rotator cuffs was a chit diet, that didn't include enough carbs and fatty acids, so that your body was thrown into Ketosis too often (for too long), and your collagen structures were broken down cannibalized in the process.
    Firstly i'm not the OP.

    Secondly, i never said i've damaged my rotator cuffs from impingement. But mechanically speaking, there is impingement from excessively flaring elbows which over time can lead to boreing a hole in your scapula for a lot of people (of course not all, but mechanically it's a vulnerable position). Those with short arms can sometimes get away with it though.

    Thirdly, "ANYTHING you break-down in your body 'builds back stronger'"??? Who was ligaments, bone, tendons?

    FUKIN LOL, thanks for the laugh bro

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    Originally Posted by ChknFrydMFer View Post
    Post vid (no matt413413)

    That's not that hard to believe. 90s aren't difficult for the trained person.

    Edit: Woops, he meant flyes. My bad...
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    Originally Posted by TappingTheZen View Post
    Firstly i'm not the OP.

    Secondly, i never said i've damaged my rotator cuffs from impingement. But mechanically speaking, there is impingement from excessively flaring elbows which over time bores a hole in your scapula.. I can provide multiple sources for this if you wish

    Thirdly, no, you're full of chit. ANYTHING you break-down in your body 'builds back stronger'

    FUKIN LOL, clueless.
    You were the OP of that statement.

    Spare me your inconclusive Big Lab results. Spoiler alert—Big Lab is a business to them first and foremost of all.

    There is a lot of hindering, sheltering, and even botching of information in attempts to stall for time while they seek to monetize the aspect for themselves.

    Greedy scientists are no different than anyone else. You can't take the face value of anything they report for full value.

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    Originally Posted by xLostxAngelx View Post
    You were the OP of that statement.

    Spare me your inconclusive Big Lab results. Spoiler alert—Big Lab is a business to them first and foremost of all.

    There is a lot of hindering, sheltering, and even botching of information in attempts to stall for time while they seek to monetize the aspect for themselves.

    Greedy scientists are no different than anyone else. You can't take the face value of anything they report for full value.

    I'm telling you—it was a chit diet—or chit training schematics that involved not enough rest and training too heavy, too often.
    lol 'science is wrong, i'm right'

    "big lab" lol, it's basic mechanics...

    If you're gonna use subjective reasoning, this back and fourth is a waste of time. You do you, i'll do me.

    Either way, 85lbs dumbbells are not exactly hard, and not a good reason to jump straight to the 'juice' comments.
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    lol, I used 85s when I was 175 after a couple years of lifting.
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    Originally Posted by ChknFrydMFer View Post
    Post vid (no matt413413)
    4th vid from a couple days ago with 85’s

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