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    Barr and Mueller are wrong

    ....Trump can be prosecuted while president: Fox News’ Andrew Napolitano

    This guy is bringing it strong lately!

    In a column that was not well received by Fox News readers, legal analyst and former Judge Andrew Napolitano laid out the case that Justice Department instructions to special counsel Robert Mueller that he could not indict Donald Trump were misguided based upon the historical record.

    As the former judge noted in his opinion piece, “We learned from Mueller’s report to Barr that while there is evidence of members of the Trump campaign collaborating with the Russians, there is not enough evidence to establish a conspiracy. We also learned that Trump personally engaged in 10 or 11 — depending on how you count them — efforts to interfere with Mueller’s investigation.”

    “Each of these attempts at interference constitutes the crime of obstruction of justice. That crime consists of any material attempt — whether successful or not — to impede a federal investigation for a corrupt purpose,” he explained.

    “Yet, when the subject of a criminal investigation orders those who work for him to lie to FBI agents or to falsify documents that are soon to enter FBI hands — as Mueller found Trump did — that constitutes an attempt to interfere with a federal investigation for a corrupt purpose,” he elaborated before stating for the record: “The corrupt purpose is not the vindication of constitutionally protected rights. Rather, it is keeping law enforcement away from the person who ordered the deceptions.”

    With that in mind, the conservative judge took up legal guidance given to Mueller — and supported by Attorney General Bill Barr — that he was hindered from indicting a sitting president by citing how the investigations against former Presidents Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton were handled.

    “We know that presidential obstruction of justice is an impeachable offense because both President Richard Nixon and President Bill Clinton — each of whom instructed aides to lie to FBI agents and falsify evidence — were charged with it,” he wrote.

    “Mueller said publicly, however, that the reason for his personal hesitation in charging the president is an October 2000 DOJ legal memorandum. It offered that charging a sitting president with a crime would impair his ability to perform his constitutional duties and thus ought not to be undertaken,” he continued. “But the 2000 opinion is just one of three that the DOJ has commissioned in the modern era. Of the three, two say the president ought not to be charged while in office, and one says that he may be charged. None says he cannot be charged.”

    As the judge notes, “Federal prosecutors threatened to indict incumbent President Clinton for obstruction of justice on the day after he left office. Clinton chose to address the threat while still in office and directed his lawyers to engage in plea negotiations with prosecutors. They negotiated a plea deal in which he pleaded guilty before a federal judge Clinton had appointed to the bench.”

    Napolitano then posed the question: “What do you call a threat by federal prosecutors to seek an indictment of the president, and subsequent plea negotiations?”

    “Answer: A prosecution of the president,” he concluded.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judg...ment-democrats
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    Napolitano has been wrong about everything the last couple years. Really damaged his brand.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    Napolitano has been wrong about everything the last couple years. Really damaged his brand.
    True as fuk. The guy is just another regular MSM shill lol.
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    Linked mueller to this thread so he will reopen the case. Drumpf is finished THIS time!
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    Originally Posted by deepfat View Post
    Liberals like Fox News pundits now.
    Fox pundits will be actively promoting clown candidates, like Warren, and otherwise terrible ideas, like impeachment / some sort of nonsense "prosecution" as indicated in the OP.

    It's for a good reason. Give lucrative media attention to candidates who will fold like a lawn chair against Trump, encourage Dems' fruitless pursuits, and inflame the R base.
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    Oh Benny... Benny Benny Benny. Why won't you give it up and eat your nothing burger already?

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    I'll eat the Muller nothing burger in a few months.
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    Okay, so if they're wrong...there's still no crime, so what are they prosecuting him for?
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    Originally Posted by Bushmaster View Post
    Oh Benny... Benny Benny Benny. Why won't you give it up and eat your nothing burger already?
    The fact that you think this is nothing, with all the information that currently exists, is very telling. It must be very comfy in your *information free* isolation bubble!
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    “Yet, when the subject of a criminal investigation orders those who work for him to lie to FBI agents or to falsify documents that are soon to enter FBI hands — as Mueller found Trump did — that constitutes an attempt to interfere with a federal investigation for a corrupt purpose”
    Source that Trump did this.
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    Okay, so if they're wrong...there's still no crime, so what are they prosecuting him for?
    My guess is that they will use the *11 examples of obstruction* contained in the report after he loses to Biden.
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    Originally Posted by GiantMonkey View Post
    Source that Trump did this.
    It would be in the Mueller report which you can buy, under the footnotes/endnotes section.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    It would be in the Mueller report which you can buy, under the footnotes/endnotes section.
    Do you have a link? I do not want to go through nearly 500 pages of documents to find a footnote.



    I ask because I did an internet search and this came up:

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...-investigation

    Which states:
    UPDATE: The Mueller report found that Trump did not direct Michael Cohen to lie.
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    The fact that you think this is nothing, with all the information that currently exists, is very telling. It must be very comfy in your *information free* isolation bubble!
    They're gonna get him this time! Right Benny?

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    Okay, so if they're wrong...there's still no crime, so what are they prosecuting him for?
    Haven't you heard? It was #HerTurn
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    Originally Posted by GiantMonkey View Post
    Do you have a link? I do not want to go through nearly 500 pages of documents to find a footnote.



    I ask because I did an internet search and this came up:

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...-investigation

    Which states:
    and links to another story.
    Google is your friend i gave you an easy ass homework assignment for after work, show some initiative.
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    I am shocked that a guy with a deep personal grudge against Trump would have this opinion.
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    Originally Posted by Bushmaster View Post
    They're gonna get him this time! Right Benny?



    Haven't you heard? It was #HerTurn
    Who said that, all i said is that it isn't finished?
    Why do you always read things into topics that are not written, said, or inferred. If i wanted it contained in the sentence, i would have typed it out. This internet forum stuff really isn't all that complicated. Mean what you say and most of all SAY WHAT YOU MEAN.

    Not have Tushmaster type it/edit it for you to make it suit his biased slant.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Google is your friend i gave you an easy ass homework assignment for after work, show some initiative.
    Because it didn't happen.
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    I am shocked that a guy with a deep personal grudge against Trump would have this opinion.
    Why is it that anyone who disagrees with the orange idiot is either a liberal, deep state, holds a grudge, etc?

    Do you people honestly think your master is never wrong?
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Why is it that anyone who disagrees with the orange idiot is either a liberal, deep state, holds a grudge, etc?

    Do you people honestly think your master is never wrong?
    Do you think he is never right?

    Post history says yes.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Why is it that anyone who disagrees with the orange idiot is either a liberal, deep state, holds a grudge, etc?

    Do you people honestly think your master is never wrong?
    Why is it that any one that supports him is a cultist?

    And don't say because we never say he is wrong, because just about every one of the regular supporters has disagreed with him on more than one thing during this term.
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    Originally Posted by topperstyle View Post
    Do you think he is never right?

    Post history says yes.
    Dig deeper, I've noted a few moves he's made that I thought were positive. 95% bad though because he's a stupid, silver spoon douchebag, fake populist.
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    Another backfire thread by xtrainer ben, shocking.

    Anyone remember when he thought Trump supporters were out on July 4th trying to lynch minorities?

    ^thats not a joke.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Why is it that anyone who disagrees with the orange idiot is either a liberal, deep state, holds a grudge, etc?

    Do you people honestly think your master is never wrong?
    Trump is an idiot and wrong more than he is right.

    Nap still holds a grudge against him and went from 100% pro-Trump commentary to 100% anti-Trump commentary overnight.
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    Originally Posted by BullittEV View Post
    Another backfire thread by xtrainer ben, shocking.

    Anyone remember when he thought Trump supporters were out on July 4th trying to lynch minorities?

    ^thats not a joke.
    LMAO! No I missed that one.. got a link? Benny! Say it ain't so lolol..
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    Originally Posted by BullittEV View Post
    Another backfire thread by xtrainer ben, shocking.

    Anyone remember when he thought Trump supporters were out on July 4th trying to lynch minorities?

    ^thats not a joke.
    You mean they weren’t?
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