Misc Firearms Crew LXXV: It's Not the End of the World, But You Can See it From Here

[benz5521]

I was just at that gun shop on lunch like I often am to kill time and buy random stuff.

I was set on getting a 365. For $500, I want to have one and try it.

I like the feel of the XL a lot better and it’s still smaller than a G19 but the trigger on this one had the worst trigger. And the slide was super hard to rack. We were messing with other 365s and they all had better triggers and the slides didn’t lock up weird like that XL.

[Farley1324]

I really want an Apex flatty to replace the regular polymer rear-set Apex in my M2.0 Compact (so it matches the M2 sub compact flatty I have that's awesome), and I am sure that the 12 days of apexmas will include the M2.0 freedom edition flatty so I have to get that.

But I had forgot about that I was all tooled up to order a new free float m-lok rail and suppressor mount flash hider for my 6 year old BCM mid length that's been languishing as a super simple safe occupier, still has old fat basic MOE handguard and ACT FCG etc. I can't pass up apexmas though.

Beyond first world problems

[benz5521]

I really want an Apex flatty to replace the regular polymer rear-set Apex in my M2.0 Compact (so it matches the M2 sub compact flatty I have that's awesome), and I am sure that the 12 days of apexmas will include the M2.0 freedom edition flatty so I have to get that.

But I had forgot about that I was all tooled up to order a new free float m-lok rail and suppressor mount flash hider for my 6 year old BCM mid length that's been languishing as a super simple safe occupier, still has old fat basic MOE handguard and ACT FCG etc. I can't pass up apexmas though.

Beyond first world problems

I want to start shooting USPSA again. Used to shoot production with a toooned Glock 34.

Y’all think I’d be dumb to buy a Legion X5. I like the feel and price. Trigger is meh but useable.

Or spend double and get like a CZ Custom Accushadow 2?

[JMath]

Man. Just found out that during the UPS truck shooting that was posted a couple days ago that the police killed a random 70 year old man who was just sitting in his car nearby. Man oh man.

Also, the brother of the truck driver has started a gofundme that has raised over $100,000 to "make people aware of trigger happy police officers" saying "Please don't let my brothers death be for nothing. Police need to be held accountable"..... so send me a hundred grand so my brothers death isn't in vain! I promise it'll be the difference in whether or not the government holds police accountable.

[Raxys]

What about the Sig Rattlers in 300blk, what do you guys think of those.

My dealer has 1, as well as the Canebrake with the fake suppressor thing and they both seem pretty sweet.

we still buying Sigs?

make sure you pick up some WWB for it.

[Berts]

we still buying Sigs?

make sure you pick up some WWB for it.

I really want a P320 Compact but the reviews are really bad and they are not cheap. I bought a couple more S&W Shield 9's instead. I just can't stop buying them. Less than $250, sign me up.

[JMath]

I really want a P320 Compact but the reviews are really bad and they are not cheap. I bought a couple more S&W Shield 9's instead. I just can't stop buying them. Less than $250, sign me up.

You better hurry. I got an email (I think from PSA) that says their deal/rebate is ending soon. I assume whatever cool promotion was going on is ending everywhere?

[TBO1313]

I built an AR9.

To get it to run soft you have to use a JP Enterprises SCS. You also have to either run a magwell adapter or a more expensive $200 lower.

The BCGs are also pricy.

It basically makes a "good" AR9 $1000-1100.

The MPX will not run wildly better, but it does have the advantage of not needing a receiver extension, so folding stocks are an option.

If you don't want to **** with the hassle of getting an AR9 together, the MPX is good out of the box.

I'm finishing up my AR 9 come Christmas. It's been a budget build and I'll report back once completed.

So far it's got:
KAK barrel
Foxtrot Mike bcg
Cheap keymod handguard
Foxtrot Mike brace
Heavy buffer and 308 spring combo
mean arms endomags
Smooth pistol buffer tube from Primary Arms
Can't remember where I got the upper receiver

Gonna finish it out with an Unbranded lower parts kit (got this for $23 and free shipping on black Friday) and poverty pony stripped lower

[R3L3NTL3SS]

I want to start shooting USPSA again. Used to shoot production with a toooned Glock 34.

Y’all think I’d be dumb to buy a Legion X5. I like the feel and price. Trigger is meh but useable.

Or spend double and get like a CZ Custom Accushadow 2?

I got to shoot a P320 X5 Legion recently. Wanted to like it. Love how the gun feels in every way but just couldn't get over that mushy damn trigger.

[Berts]

You better hurry. I got an email (I think from PSA) that says their deal/rebate is ending soon. I assume whatever cool promotion was going on is ending everywhere?

It ended yesterday which is why I bought a couple more Saturday. PSA had a nice sale plus there was $50 S&W rebate. I have since unsubscribed from PSA, those emails get me in trouble. I can't keep buying myself Christmas presents.

[fishnbrah]

was messing with my fiveseven last night and i racked some shells through it and one went in the chamber and when it came out the casing was empty and gunpowder fell out of the gun, i shook it and the bullet fell out.

[benz5521]

I got to shoot a P320 X5 Legion recently. Wanted to like it. Love how the gun feels in every way but just couldn't get over that mushy damn trigger.

Well I shoot glocks, so... the sig trigger ain’t bad to me.

Left work early today and had time to kill so just stopped at the range. Didn’t have any of my stuff so I grabbed a VP9 from the rental counter for free since I’m a member and 200 rounds of S&B 115g

It’s so easy to grip naturally and it’s stupid accurate because of Ergos and trigger. My 25y groups easily best my Glocks and I barely have any time on a VP9.

But shooting drills, doubles, anything fast, and it’s harder because the gun is so flippy. Still accurate, just feel slow. Didn’t have a timer so can’t compare splits.

Recorded myself though and it doesn’t actually look like the gun is moving much, but being behind the gun, the front sight is really bouncy. Settles nice though.

[Farley1324]

Well I shoot glocks, so... the sig trigger ain’t bad to me.

Left work early today and had time to kill so just stopped at the range. Didn’t have any of my stuff so I grabbed a VP9 from the rental counter for free since I’m a member and 200 rounds of S&B 115g

It’s so easy to grip naturally and it’s stupid accurate because of Ergos and trigger. My 25y groups easily best my Glocks and I barely have any time on a VP9.

But shooting drills, doubles, anything fast, and it’s harder because the gun is so flippy. Still accurate, just feel slow. Didn’t have a timer so can’t compare splits.

Recorded myself though and it doesn’t actually look like the gun is moving much, but being behind the gun, the front sight is really bouncy. Settles nice though.

That's exactly it.

My hand fits the VP9 like a glove, which is a common observation...and it's so accurate, the paddles are so perfect, it points perfectly, always hits dead on with the sights dead center on the slide (rare for me), trigger reach is perfect trigger break point is perfect, it's sooooo smooth and just-right. Pintpoint accuracy, so sweet on walkback drills or shooting 15-25 yard B8's...

But the bore axis and muzzle flip shooting fast, the barrel and capacity being downsized one step vs the physical exterior dimensions and, I keep coming back to, the speed shooting fast jsut isn't there



You don't need a timer if you're a semi regular or above shooter you'll know relatively and you're right. A drill I can do in 2.5 seconds with the Glock will be 3.3 with the VP9, something like that, and it scales up to even 10 second drills are like 7 vs 10 Glock to VP



The VP is also exceptionally reliable. 3-4k rounds MRBF for me (is that the acronym?, mean rounds between failure). Any failure or stoppage of any kind is only about once per 3-4k. And they feed everything, they even feed empty cases...seriously use empty cases like dummy rounds

[LinuxJon]

I want to start shooting USPSA again. Used to shoot production with a toooned Glock 34.

Y’all think I’d be dumb to buy a Legion X5. I like the feel and price. Trigger is meh but useable.

Or spend double and get like a CZ Custom Accushadow 2?

Sig. Blah.

Now that I have a gen 5 glawk idk how I'd ever go back.

[OfficerJimLahey]

Well I shoot glocks, so... the sig trigger ain’t bad to me.

Left work early today and had time to kill so just stopped at the range. Didn’t have any of my stuff so I grabbed a VP9 from the rental counter for free since I’m a member and 200 rounds of S&B 115g

It’s so easy to grip naturally and it’s stupid accurate because of Ergos and trigger. My 25y groups easily best my Glocks and I barely have any time on a VP9.

But shooting drills, doubles, anything fast, and it’s harder because the gun is so flippy. Still accurate, just feel slow. Didn’t have a timer so can’t compare splits.

Recorded myself though and it doesn’t actually look like the gun is moving much, but being behind the gun, the front sight is really bouncy. Settles nice though.

you ever think about designing and manufacturing your own handgun?

[Meatie]

I want to start shooting USPSA again. Used to shoot production with a toooned Glock 34.

Y’all think I’d be dumb to buy a Legion X5. I like the feel and price. Trigger is meh but useable.

Or spend double and get like a CZ Custom Accushadow 2?

I like CZ's but they weigh 10 pounds

M&P Pro series massa race

[ctprelude]

Much to the dismay of this board, I picked up a P365 over Black Friday from a local dealer. Wanted to really like the new Springfield Hellcat, as I have carried an XDs since it first came out, but it seems like a step down in quality to me. Just looks and feels like a cheaply made pistol and is a little bigger than the 365. Regardless, took the Sig out yesterday and put 200 rounds to it in the limited time I had out in the mountains and it ran 100%. Also had normal primer marks with no ridiculous drag like some pics I've seen. Hopefully will be able to take it out again this week.

[Meatie]

I have carried an XDs s .

Sup ya XDS head?

sup ya exiled powerlight district head?

I gotta say, after carrying both, the hellcat feels bigger when carrying. Pig 365 carries much more like a G43. I just recently picked up a P365 XL for winter carry. Picked up a JM KUSTOM KYDEX for it and found out the P365 will fit in it as well hngeingngngein


Harllnggghh naaa naayaaaa Hennn Henn!

[benz5521]

you ever think about designing and manufacturing your own handgun?

We should do it together. Late nights on CAD, leads to beers, then who knows?

[benz5521]

I like CZ's but they weigh 10 pounds

M&P Pro series massa race

The pro serious would be legit but all the gunsmiths around here are ratards and I’m worried about paying one of them to put an apex in for me. I actually don’t mind the stock trigger at all. I think it’s pretty good. But don’t like the hinged shoe.

[Meatie]

The pro serious would be legit but all the gunsmiths around here are ratards and I’m worried about paying one of them to put an apex in for me. I actually don’t mind the stock trigger at all. I think it’s pretty good. But don’t like the hinged shoe.

My 2.0c after 20,000 dry fire reps and about 5k live fire roudns put through it, teh trigger is now like fried butter. I can't get enough of it. And I despised the hinged trigger thing for ever. Now I much prefer it over glack and Sig triggers.

it was never "that bad" like farley said his M&P SubC was like. He must've been chugging a gallon of that XF up2.0

[OfficerJimLahey]

We should do it together. Late nights on CAD, leads to beers, then who knows?

[OfficerJimLahey]

First person charged under Florida 'red flag' law found guilty

https://www.foxnews.com/us/first-per...w-found-guilty

The first person to have his guns confiscated under Florida’s 2018 “red flag” law has been found guilty over his refusal to voluntarily surrender the weapons.

Jerron Smith, 33, now faces up to five years in prison after a jury in Broward County rejected his argument that he did not fully understand the new law. The jury returned the verdict Friday after a short trial.

Smith, of Deerfield Beach, was the subject of a risk protection order soon after the law was enacted in response to the Parkland high school mass shooting in February 2018.

Smith owned an AR-15 rifle and a .22-caliber rifle which Broward deputies seized after his arrest in March 2018 on charges of firing six shots at a vehicle being driven by his best friend, according to reports.

[Farley1324]

Broward County

Never heard of them


...

[Farley1324]

Epic

https://youtu.be/CyaCPrY11NI?t=111

[OfficerJimLahey]

trying to fight a fireman, a new level of ****head achieved.

[OfficerJimLahey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqVykFBZYAg


interesting video of someone being shot multiple times by a handgun and being able to flee. no info on caliber.

[Meatie]

John Correia looks like he smells like a collastromy bag

[Ikeman83]

It's still a Sig though


I just can't justify the $ to get into .300 blackout. If I had and was willing to give the uninterrupted time to focus on reloading for it and got a short barrel rifle or a pistol and put a suppressor on it, maybe, but otherwise...why? Just shoot 5.56 or a regular pistol round instead of super/sub 300 blk

This is why I don't have a 300 blk

[OrificeSpunk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqVykFBZYAg


interesting video of someone being shot multiple times by a handgun and being able to flee. no info on caliber.

They aren't allowed larger than 380 in semi autos in Mexico(unless you're cartel). Probably a glock 25 or some smaller caliber like 32 acp, 25 acp. etc.


Came across this on another forum. Damn those MCX's are sexy. I don't know how well 300blk performs out of a tiny barrel but I'm mirin the compactness