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    Arrow Creatine before bed = More HGH

    I read an article that cited a study which showed increase human growth hormone production around 2 hours after ingesting creatine. So I was thinking, since humans grow most at night, I'll start taking creatine before bed, and maybe I'll grow more? Muscle and height?

    Is this a good idea?
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    Link to study?
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    Link to study?
    This is the one I saw: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11297004

    The subjects were given pretty big doses though (20g) and they all showed a significant stimulation, so I'm thinking even if I'm only taking 5g there would still be a stimulation, maybe not as significant as they got though
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    Can't see full text unfortunately. The sceptic in me says that this could be similar to the acute hormonal response caused by fasting or by doing squats - i.e. is too short lived to have any impact on hypertrophy. The authors speculate that it could have an indirect anabolic effect but as far as I can tell don't measure / demonstrate attribution to that.
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    Can't see full text unfortunately. The sceptic in me says that this could be similar to the acute hormonal response caused by fasting or by exercise - i.e. is too short lived to have any impact on hypertrophy. The authors speculate that it could have an indirect anabolic effect but as far as I can tell don't measure / demonstrate attribution to that.
    You may be correct, I'll take it before bed anyways, just incase there are effects
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    Fair enough, there is no downside to doing so.
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    What effects do you expect from HGH?

    This is the biggest area of confusion I find. People assume it is a significant skeletal muscle mass builder. Those are not its primary effects.
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    I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...

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    OP,

    Creatine is beneficial when ever it's taken. Keep us posted on your nighttime thoughts?
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    Originally Posted by MexicanTroll View Post
    I read an article that cited a study which showed increase human growth hormone production around 2 hours after ingesting creatine. So I was thinking, since humans grow most at night, I'll start taking creatine before bed, and maybe I'll grow more? Muscle and height?

    Is this a good idea?
    Sounds silly.
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    Transient GH increases aren’t going to do anything noticeable.
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    Originally Posted by utfootball4 View Post
    Sounds silly.
    Says a guy that stands by CLA and Carnitine.

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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    OP,

    Creatine is beneficial when ever it's taken. Keep us posted on your nighttime thoughts?
    So far been taking a generous 5g dose of creatine every night and I feel like I sleep a lot longer, no joke. The days I don't set an alarm I sleep up-to 10 hours easily, used to be 8-9. Not sure if this is a good or a bad thing though.

    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    What effects do you expect from HGH?

    This is the biggest area of confusion I find. People assume it is a significant skeletal muscle mass builder. Those are not its primary effects.
    What are it's primary effects? I'm 18 so I'm trying to grow taller and more muscle.
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    Originally Posted by MexicanTroll View Post
    What are it's primary effects? I'm 18 so I'm trying to grow taller and more muscle.
    It will not help you with either of those.
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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    It will not help you with either of those.
    I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...
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    Originally Posted by MexicanTroll View Post
    I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...
    I'm not. Any GH increase within the normal range won't do anything for either of those. You also very likely have fused growth plates at your age, there is no chance you are going to grow significantly in height.

    GH within the normal range will not alter muscle levels. It's main action isn't on skeletal muscle anyway.
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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    I'm not. Any GH increase within the normal range won't do anything for either of those. You also very likely have fused growth plates at your age, there is no chance you are going to grow significantly in height.

    GH within the normal range will not alter muscle levels. It's main action isn't on skeletal muscle anyway.
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    I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...
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    Originally Posted by COUNTRYMIKE View Post
    I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...
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    I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...
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    Guys chill out haha, he was wrong afterall so I was right technically
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