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    Talking Rules about removing yourself from the NBA draft

    No particular reason I am posting these ... lol


    The basics

    To leave the door open for a return to school, any player that enters the draft cannot agree orally or in writing to be represented by an agent or any individual acting on behalf of the agent or accept any benefits from an agent. Players can use an advisor, who cannot contact teams on the athlete’s behalf or arrange workouts, as long as he pays the “going rate” for advising services. Athletes cannot miss class for workouts with NBA teams other than during the draft combine.

    The NBA collective bargaining agreement allows an athlete to remove his name from the draft twice in his career.

    The deadlines

    Players have to apply to the NBA Undergraduate Advisory Committee for feedback about their draft stock by April 13 and must decide whether to enter the draft by April 22. The NBA’s deadline to withdrawal from the draft is June 11, but the NCAA requires athletes to submit a written statement announcing their decision to remove their name from the draft by 11:59 p.m. on May 30 (10 days after the end of the combine) in order to maintain their collegiate eligibility.

    BTW, Zion does NOT have an agent as far as I know ...
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    Why would zion do this?

    Pass up guaranteed millions for a chance at injury
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    Originally Posted by waytoodeep03 View Post
    Why would zion do this?

    Pass up guaranteed millions for a chance at injury
    So he can reenter and go to the Knicks. Why play in new orleans when you can play in the Mecca of basketball
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    Originally Posted by waytoodeep03 View Post
    Why would zion do this?

    Pass up guaranteed millions for a chance at injury
    I don't even want him to - because then RJ, Garland and so on move up, and our #4 pick becomes worse.

    Why: to avoid being the next AD, the next Garnett@TWolves, the next TMac@Raptors, the next Booker@Suns
    How: ... play one game, attend classes the rest of the year and go your own workouts, come back to the draft with a chance of being drafted by a better franchise/market. He could also play a year in Europe or China for serious $$$ and declare, many options.
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    I would very much consider this option if I am Zion. I would not want to be forced to wait until 2023 to leave that sh*thole
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    I would very much consider this option if I am Zion. I would not want to be forced to wait until 2023 to leave that sh*thole

    2023? More like 2027 as he is a RFA and pels can match any offer.
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    Originally Posted by dmoneythegoat View Post
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    This is what I don't get: why have the Pelicans fans been so pissy about all of that?

    You had 7 fukin years to put a decent team around him, you didn't ... how can a sane person expect him to ruin his career by staying 12 years (7 + 5) with NOLA, like KG did in Minnesota (also 12 seasons)?

    Players have seen how teams waste talent, because either they only care about ticket sales and are pitching a "hope" angle all the time, without REALLY trying to become contenders, or they are simply incompetent.
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    Originally Posted by HayZues Christi View Post
    2023? More like 2027 as he is a RFA and pels can match any offer.
    Even worse then. If I was advising Zion, I would have this as a serious conversation. We potentially could be wasting millions of $$ by going there from a marketing perspective as well. No one wants to go to New Orleans so he's gonna be stuck not winning either.
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    Even worse then. If I was advising Zion, I would have this as a serious conversation about this. We potentially could be wasting millions of $$ by going there from a marketing perspective as well. No one wants to go to New Orleans so he's gonna be stuck not winning either.
    By moving his draft by one year he would miss out on roughly 8mil ... any superstar makes his moves off shoe/advertisment deals and the side business the build. A big market will always trump your NBA salary in that regard. Fuk, wasn't LeBron's Nike deal worth 1 billion or something?

    If I was his basketball advisor: remove yourself from the draft
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    Guaranteed some basketball talking heads will start bringing this possibility up, or a scenario Eli style.
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    Originally Posted by GotNext View Post
    By moving his draft by one year he would miss out on roughly 8mil ... any superstar makes his moves off shoe/advertisment deals and the side business the build. A big market will always trump your NBA salary in that regard. Fuk, wasn't LeBron's Nike deal worth 1 billion or something?

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    Guaranteed some basketball talking heads will start bringing this possibility up, or a scenario Eli style.
    I'm honestly surprised that no one has really said anything about it from the talking heads this morning, but your right maybe they will. I really don't know if you can choose a worse team then the Pelicans for Zion. Memphis is pretty bad to, but those 2 are the WORST landing spots for him... and they both have the #1 and #2 pick in the draft lmao

    He's already stated that he would go back to school if it was really up to him... any other team besides this one I would say take your lumps then leave if you want.

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    Originally Posted by sammywatkins View Post
    So he can reenter and go to the Knicks. Why play in new orleans when you can play in the Mecca of basketball
    lol @ wanting to play for that dumpster fire of a franchise
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    Originally Posted by GotNext View Post
    This is what I don't get: why have the Pelicans fans been so pissy about all of that?

    You had 7 fukin years to put a decent team around him, you didn't ... how can a sane person expect him to ruin his career by staying 12 years (7 + 5) with NOLA, like KG did in Minnesota (also 12 seasons)?

    Players have seen how teams waste talent, because either they only care about ticket sales and are pitching a "hope" angle all the time, without REALLY trying to become contenders, or they are simply incompetent.
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    Speaking of incompetence lately

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    LMAO Pelicans will never win anything. Their stadium is called the "Smoothie King Center"...... wtf lol
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    LMAO Pelicans will never win anything. Their stadium is called the "Smoothie King Center"...... wtf lol
    Smoothie King was started here... guess they paid enough for the sponsorship...

    Not sure what that has to do with the Lakers being incompetent..?
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    Originally Posted by DA_MOSS View Post
    Smoothie King was started here... guess they paid enough for the sponsorship...

    Not sure what that has to do with the Lakers being incompetent..?
    Incompetent Lakers >> Anything the Pelicans will ever be

    Both in marketing for stars, potential free agents, living there, fans, stadium... EVERYTHING

    there's not 1 thing the Pelicans are better at then LA..... Not even smoothies lol
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    lol @ wanting to play for that dumpster fire of a franchise
    Hate all you want but every basketball player has dreamed of playing in Madison square garden for the knicks
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    Originally Posted by Jaydawg08 View Post
    Incompetent Lakers >> Anything the Pelicans will ever be

    Both in marketing for stars, potential free agents, living there, fans, stadium... EVERYTHING

    there's not 1 thing the Pelicans are better at then LA..... Not even smoothies lol
    Pels have been a better basketball team most of the last 6 or so years so I guess there is something NOLA is better than LA at..
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    Originally Posted by DA_MOSS View Post
    Pels have been a better basketball team most of the last 6 or so years so I guess there is something NOLA is better than LA at..
    I get that your a New Orleans fan... But you have to know that Zion doesn't wanna be there, Anthony Davis doesn't wanna be there... NO ONE wants to go to New Orleans.. Kawhi, Irving, KD aren't clamoring trying to go to the Big Easy

    Each of these guys are potentially linked to LA.
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    I get that your a New Orleans fan... But you have to know that Zion doesn't wanna be there, Anthony Davis doesn't wanna be there... NO ONE wants to go to New Orleans.. Kawhi, Irving, KD aren't clamoring trying to go to the Big Easy

    Each of these guys are potentially linked to LA.
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    Hold out until they change their dumb fukkin name at least lol. Actually interested to see what happens. Saw Davis still wants out even after the lotto
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    Zion seems like a good kid. The chitstorm that would ensue if he refused to go to NOH and went back to Duke would be unlike anything we’ve ever seen. He doesn’t want that attached to his name.

    Best thing the Pels can do right now is probably put together a deal with the Knicks for AD and get that #3 pick so they can draft RJ (Zion’s best friend).
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    Originally Posted by GotNext View Post
    This is what I don't get: why have the Pelicans fans been so pissy about all of that?

    You had 7 fukin years to put a decent team around him, you didn't ... how can a sane person expect him to ruin his career by staying 12 years (7 + 5) with NOLA, like KG did in Minnesota (also 12 seasons)?

    Players have seen how teams waste talent, because either they only care about ticket sales and are pitching a "hope" angle all the time, without REALLY trying to become contenders, or they are simply incompetent.
    wat. Wtf are you talking about? AD? bc this thread is about Zion lol.

    That being said, I agree with AD. He should have wanted to leave. But he handled like an ass lmao. That's generally why people got mad. Plus then you had the Lakers trying to bully their way to getting him. So pels fans told him to go fuk himself.
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    Originally Posted by sammywatkins View Post
    Hate all you want but every basketball player has dreamed of playing in Madison square garden for the knicks
    then they wake up from that said dream and realize lmao @ playing for the Knicks when I could just go into MSG and drop 50 on them

    that must explain why all the superstars have flocked to the Knicks in the past 20 years not srs.


    it's not hating, it's reality and lol @ not being able to accept it. Knicks have been the most mismanaged NBA franchise for the past two decades. As long as James Dolan is at the helm it will continue to be mismanaged. Even OG Knicks players like Oakley are angered by how bad it is. Knicks traded away and disgruntled the lone star in KP to the point he skipped exit interviews. Knicks tanked hard and blatently this past season, banked on getting Zion in the draft but didn't even get 1st or 2nd, but 3rd pick. What a clown of an organization. They really deserve everything bad that comes to them.

    Even if the Knicks somehow manage to land Durant and Irving, they'll still somehow manage it fuk it all up because it's the Knicks. Sorry, truth hurts. I don't even know how you can deny any of this.
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    Originally Posted by sammywatkins View Post
    So he can reenter and go to the Knicks. Why play in new orleans when you can play in the Mecca of basketball
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    Originally Posted by nvrstopworking View Post
    Zion seems like a good kid. The chitstorm that would ensue if he refused to go to NOH and went back to Duke would be unlike anything we’ve ever seen. He doesn’t want that attached to his name.

    Best thing the Pels can do right now is probably put together a deal with the Knicks for AD and get that #3 pick so they can draft RJ (Zion’s best friend).
    Actually nobody would care. Nola is a joke franchise that historically doesn’t do chit properly. They have a legit guy running the show now but that doesn’t make up for 10-15 years of incompetence.
    Everyone would take zion’s side and the media would probably start pressuring silver to force a sale and a move to Seattle or another city that actually deserves an nba franchise
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    Originally Posted by sooby View Post
    then they wake up from that said dream and realize lmao @ playing for the Knicks when I could just go into MSG and drop 50 on them

    that must explain why all the superstars have flocked to the Knicks in the past 20 years not srs.


    it's not hating, it's reality and lol @ not being able to accept it. Knicks have been the most mismanaged NBA franchise for the past two decades. As long as James Dolan is at the helm it will continue to be mismanaged. Even OG Knicks players like Oakley are angered by how bad it is. Knicks traded away and disgruntled the lone star in KP to the point he skipped exit interviews. Knicks tanked hard and blatently this past season, banked on getting Zion in the draft but didn't even get 1st or 2nd, but 3rd pick. What a clown of an organization. They really deserve everything bad that comes to them.

    Even if the Knicks somehow manage to land Durant and Irving, they'll still somehow manage it fuk it all up because it's the Knicks. Sorry, truth hurts. I don't even know how you can deny any of this.

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    Knicks have been in dire straits for the past 20 years due to the misguided opinions of their shmuck owner who is actually getting sued by shareholders right this moment for spending too much time with his “touring blues band” and not enough time at the office lol.
    Dolan was always going for the sizzle and trying to get superstars here at any cost.
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    Knicks will be fine. Everyone loves playing at the garden and everyone loves New York.
    There was one summer in the last 20 years when the team wasn’t capped out and they striked out on Lebron and have their money to amare.

    This is the first time in twenty years where they have room to add two legit superstars.

    Don’t be mad because Kawhi is leaving your clean city with a garbage can on every street corner for LA, eh?

    Ps- John tavares is a phaggot and the leafs are trash. Pay more attention to curling and lacrosse. You’re out of your element tryna chit on the Mecca of basketball.
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    You know we don’t play the game with peach baskets anymore, right?

    Knicks have been in dire straits for the past 20 years due to the misguided opinions of their shmuck owner who is actually getting sued by shareholders right this moment for spending too much time with his “touring blues band” and not enough time at the office lol.
    Dolan was always going for the sizzle and trying to get superstars here at any cost.
    He took himself out of the equation with the rangers and let glen sather run the show autonomously and that franchise returned to respectability.
    He’s doing the same with Scott perry right now.
    Knicks will be fine. Everyone loves playing at the garden and everyone loves New York.
    There was one summer in the last 20 years when the team wasn’t capped out and they striked out on Lebron and have their money to amare.

    This is the first time in twenty years where they have room to add two legit superstars.

    Don’t be mad because Kawhi is leaving your clean city with a garbage can on every street corner for LA, eh?

    Ps- John tavares is a phaggot and the leafs are trash. Pay more attention to curling and lacrosse. You’re out of your element tryna chit on the Mecca of basketball.

    Don't be mad that you got the third pick lol. And Dolan is still the head of the franchise and will be involved in every major decision what has changed there? Somehow and randomly after 20 years you will wake up and this will all turn around. Why didn't it the past 19 years or so??? The Knicks will be fine is a bunch of cope, they haven't been fine the past 20 years lol. Everyone loves playing at new york, more like everybody likes dropping career highs in new york lol. But who knows, this might be your year lol.

    Maybe I am a bit mad that Kawhi is leaving but I don't really blame him and the one year he is with us is all worth it, especially if the Raps make the finals. Lol @ being so mad that you bring out irrelevant chit like hocky and lacrosse. I don't have to chit on New York basketball. It has basically done that to itself for the longest time to the point it should be called the dumpster fire of basketball. It has been a far cry from being a Mecca and I'm not sure why people deny this aside from their obvious bias of being from New York.
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