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    Originally Posted by Luc1fer View Post
    BlackScorpio you need to stop assuming all men simply want to get their dik wet as quickly as possible. Personally, I prefer to build anticipation and attraction/connection first. I have tried ONS world and it wasn’t for me.

    You don’t feel this way and sex ASAP is your goal. You are free to feel this way, but don’t call others in denial or idiots just because they don’t align. That is condescending and stubborn.

    You are extremely stubborn though, at least you can admit that. Just try this time, really try, to open your mind and not immediately defend.
    Ok brah. That's not sarcasm either.
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    Originally Posted by Rebel012 View Post
    Yeah, but honestly, I don't know how you could look at my statement and draw the inference that I was suggesting that those women are sitting at home 'thinking about one guy' while 'cooking and cleaning.' Those women might in fact be going on dates with a few different guys initially, but before they decide to focus on one and have sex they want to make sure there's a certain connection and they're looking for the same thing. I agree that they need to be escalating physically and there is a threshold beyond which most guys won't continue to wait.
    I thought that's what you said?

    Sorry I'm tired af today. Usually my reading comprehension is better than that.

    I'll agree with the rest of your post.
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    Originally Posted by TheIronAsylum View Post
    tinders long gone how do yal get laid now
    Your tinder is broken or you are in a chitty market or you need to cut/profile max. Works fine for me.





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    Not phuckin with any of them tho.

    Hinge is where its at for a higher caliber.

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    Originally Posted by spadelexus View Post
    Your tinder is broken or you are in a chitty market or you need to cut/profile max. Works fine for me.





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    Not phuckin with any of them tho.

    Hinge is where its at for a higher caliber.

    Inb4 Mr. Beer and the circus remote story volume VI

    That Iron dude just has a chitty personality, that's why he's bitching. If that wasn't the case, why isn't he trying irl?
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    Originally Posted by spadelexus View Post
    Your tinder is broken or you are in a chitty market or you need to cut/profile max. Works fine for me.


    Not phuckin with any of them tho.

    Hinge is where its at for a higher caliber.

    Inb4 Mr. Beer and the circus remote story volume VI
    Well at least you now realize that Tinder is chit.
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    Not sure if having a pic of my kid and I on my hinge profile is hurting me or not. I’m not really looking for just casual sex so not sure if I should take that photo off or not. If I was just looking for casual sex I’d probably wouldn’t keep it up.
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    Originally Posted by brightbrah View Post
    She just hit me with the "we'd be better off as friends". Sucks...
    Misc is right again.

    Sorry man.

    This is why you should try to be as sexual as quickly as possible to gauge their interest so you don't waste time.

    Just talking about miscellaneous chit is not gonna do anything.

    I've said it before and I say it again: A woman having sex with you and giving you head without paying her is the only way you know if she's sexually interested in you. Not flirting, not touching, not grinding, not kissing, not a handjob.

    Timewasters can do all of that to fool dudes who don't know the true nature of manipulators.
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    Originally Posted by mrjolly2323 View Post
    Not sure if having a pic of my kid and I on my hinge profile is hurting me or not. I’m not really looking for just casual sex so not sure if I should take that photo off or not. If I was just looking for casual sex I’d probably wouldn’t keep it up.
    I'm not a fan of having your kids pics on online dating profiles. There's a ton of weirdos out there, you never know who's looking at their pics. It's enough to say "father to (whatever number) kids" or something.

    Originally Posted by BlackScorpio91 View Post
    Sorry man.

    This is why you should try to be as sexual as quickly as possible to gauge their interest so you don't waste time.

    Just talking about miscellaneous chit is not gonna do anything.

    I've said it before and I say it again: A woman having sex with you and giving you head without paying her is the only way you know if she's sexually interested in you. Not flirting, not touching, not grinding, not kissing, not a handjob.

    Timewasters can do all of that to fool dudes who don't know the true nature of manipulators.
    You do realize that someone could be interested and attracted and not want to have sex on the very first date, right? Just because someone doesn't jump in bed with you doesn't mean they're wasting your time.
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    and how to tell the difference between wasting time and just genuinly not being ready? How long should it be 1 date, 3 dates?
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    Originally Posted by randomuser12345 View Post
    and how to tell the difference between wasting time and just genuinly not being ready? How long should it be 1 date, 3 dates?
    Are you just looking for sex or looking to actually date/relationship eventually? If looking for more than a smash and dash play it by ear. As long as you're not paying for a bunch of stuff for her how is she wasting your time if it takes 4 or 5 dates to have sex? Are you so busy that you're dropping other plans for her? If not, then just have fun.
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    Originally Posted by Legz422 View Post
    Are you just looking for sex or looking to actually date/relationship eventually? If looking for more than a smash and dash play it by ear. As long as you're not paying for a bunch of stuff for her how is she wasting your time if it takes 4 or 5 dates to have sex? Are you so busy that you're dropping other plans for her? If not, then just have fun.
    4-5 dates sound like reasonable amount. And it's like 1-1.5 month. Can i assume that beyond that if girl keeps making excuses it's over, from women standpoint.
    And also i'm curious is there really genuine attraction cos anyways witholding sex for 4-5 dates seems like beginning of manipulation as "prove me you can stick for that amount and i'll give you some". Doesn't really looks like healthy thing to start relationship.
    It's really interesting topic for me cos i pretty often find myself in situation when it's 3-4 date, and i'm starting to get suspicious about she is just stringing me along. And it ends up in me saying smth like
    -"so you don't want to even stay alone with me after a month?"
    -"hurr durr i'm just not ready yet, we aren't knowing each other that good"
    -"Well i can't be with girl that doesn't want me physically"
    -"who said i dont want you. We are making our mind at first few mins of seeing a guy"
    -"What's the problem then?"
    -"something-something not ready"
    -"bye"
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    Originally Posted by Legz422 View Post
    I'm not a fan of having your kids pics on online dating profiles. There's a ton of weirdos out there, you never know who's looking at their pics. It's enough to say "father to (whatever number) kids" or something.



    You do realize that someone could be interested and attracted and not want to have sex on the very first date, right? Just because someone doesn't jump in bed with you doesn't mean they're wasting your time.
    No chit Sherlock.

    But if you're going on multiple dates and she seems more like a platonic friend and there's no sexual tension then most likely she's not attracted to him and is using him for free meals and attention.

    It shouldn't take a whole month to have sex with someone gtfo of here, women know who they're gonna fuk or not.
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    Originally Posted by randomuser12345 View Post
    4-5 dates sound like reasonable amount. And it's like 1-1.5 month. Can i assume that beyond that if girl keeps making excuses it's over, from women standpoint.
    And also i'm curious is there really genuine attraction cos anyways witholding sex for 4-5 dates seems like beginning of manipulation as "prove me you can stick for that amount and i'll give you some". Doesn't really looks like healthy thing to start relationship.
    I don't think it's necessarily manipulation. Maybe she wants to get to know someone before having sex? Now if she won't even kiss/make out after a couple dates then she's prob wasting your time. The last guy I dated we went out/hung out about 3-4 times that spanned 3-4 weeks or so before we had sex. If you're hanging out a lot more often then that would probably speed up the timeline, but we were both busy adults with jobs so we only saw each other once a week or maybe 2 times a week.

    Originally Posted by BlackScorpio91 View Post
    No chit Sherlock.

    But if you're going on multiple dates and she seems more like a platonic friend and there's no sexual tension then most likely she's not attracted to him and is using him for free meals and attention.

    It shouldn't take a whole month to have sex with someone gtfo of here, women know who they're gonna fuk or not.
    Well of course if she's not kissing you or anything after a couple dates then she prob isn't very attracted to you. And I specified that as long as you're not spending a bunch of money on them then just play it by ear. It could take a month or so depending on your circumstances. The guy I spoke about above this, I had a vacation in there as well, where I wasn't in town to see him, which delayed things.
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    Learn to enjoy the process of building report and a connection/relationships.

    Or dont date at all. Get em drunk and smash out in the parking lot.


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    Originally Posted by HayZues Christi View Post
    If you're only chasing a nut, your time and energy would be better served on a hooker.

    Learn to enjoy the process of building report and a connection/relationships.

    Or dont date at all. Get em drunk and smash out in the parking lot.


    Always enjoyed making a girl fall in love more than having one in love.

    Building rapport is overrated.

    And what's with these retards and recommending hookers all the time.

    I don't need nor never will pay for a hooker cause I don't need one. I can just find a reciprocating woman or women irl.
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    Originally Posted by HayZues Christi View Post
    If you're only chasing a nut, your time and energy would be better served on a hooker.

    Learn to enjoy the process of building report and a connection/relationships.

    Or dont date at all. Get em drunk and smash out in the parking lot.


    Always enjoyed making a girl fall in love more than having one in love.
    I think building that rapport and connection is fun.
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    Originally Posted by BlackScorpio91 View Post
    Building rapport is overrated.

    And what's with these retards and recommending hookers all the time.

    I don't need nor never will pay for a hooker cause I don't need one. I can just find a reciprocating woman or women irl.
    You still have to invest some time and energy into getting laid though? I think HayZeus point is that a certain $ amount might be worth that time/energy.
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    Originally Posted by Luc1fer View Post
    You still have to invest some time and energy into getting laid though? I think HayZeus point is that a certain $ amount might be worth that time/energy.
    No chit though some guys rather invest as little time and energy as possible which is what I try to do.

    And you're essentially saying that I don't have the looks and/or game to get chicks without paying for them and so I have to resort to tricking just cause I only want sex which isn't true.

    I rather just cold approach and/or look for choosing signals once and a while like I've been doing for quite a while instead of wasting money on a whore LOL. I live by myself, I ain't investing my money on no woman, I rather use that money on bills smh.

    Why is it always relationship-oriented people coming up with the dumbest chit? Just chit that is bitch slap worthy?
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    Originally Posted by HayZues Christi View Post
    If you're only chasing a nut, your time and energy would be better served on a hooker.
    Truth. A transaction based relationship aka prostitution would save a lot of time and energy.


    Originally Posted by HayZues Christi View Post
    Learn to enjoy the process of building report and a connection/relationships.

    Or dont date at all. Get em drunk and smash out in the parking lot.


    Always enjoyed making a girl fall in love more than having one in love.
    The thrill of the hunt! I was just talking about this with a buddy a few days ago. You're right, that can actually feel more rewarding than the actually "kill".
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    Originally Posted by BlackScorpio91 View Post
    No chit though some guys rather invest as little time and energy as possible which is what I try to do.

    And you're essentially saying that I don't have the looks and/or game to get chicks without paying for them and so I have to resort to tricking just cause I only want sex which isn't true.

    I rather just cold approach and/or look for choosing signals once and a while like I've been doing for quite a while instead of wasting money on a whore LOL. I live by myself, I ain't investing my money on no woman, I rather use that money on bills smh.

    Why is it always relationship-oriented people coming up with the dumbest chit? Just chit that is bitch slap worthy?
    I don’t think that’s what they meant. Unless you are male model status most guys even at chad level are going to have to put in some time/energy if aiming to purely smash 6+/10’s in most markets in the US. The higher up the looks ladder the less time/energy but still requires some. Swiping, convoing, texting, etc...time adds up. Even if you are cold approaching...unless you are shooting below your looks level chances are you are not batting 1000. Rejections, flakes, etc...time adds up. So it’s merely an equation of how much you value your time. If you value an hour of your time at Y $’s and it takes Y x Z hours to get some poon, but if it costs 1/2 of that to order a pro and takes 5 minutes to order one, than maybe a pro is a smarter move if you’re purely after a nut.

    But I don’t think you are. I think you probably enjoy the chase, and that interaction of having a woman genuinely attracted to you makes for a better overall experience than just paying someone who’s more interested in watching the clock.

    That said there’s plenty of guys who are at your looks level or higher who pay for pros because they value their time above all and are merely after a nut. I know guys on Wall Street that work like 16 hr days and order $1000 pros because they can’t be bothered with the game ... Above average looking guys that could easily pull if they wanted to put in the time/effort, but they don’t want to and $1000 is nothing to them.

    It’s all about perspective at the end of the day.
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    recreated tinder to find out i'm not even sexually attracted to 90% of girls there. And those who i find pretty not gonna match with me. And even if they match just imagening amount of energy i have to put in this one to achieve anything is a dealbreaker. It's over.
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    Originally Posted by BlackScorpio91 View Post
    No chit though some guys rather invest as little time and energy as possible which is what I try to do.
    It's $ vs. time & effort then... surely your time is worth something, no?

    I suspect there's more to the equation for you though. Probably a pride/ego thing. i.e. you only get a hooker if you can't get laid otherwise.

    Originally Posted by spadelexus View Post
    That said there’s plenty of guys who are at your looks level or higher who pay for pros because they value their time above all and are merely after a nut. I know guys on Wall Street that work like 16 hr days and order $1000 pros because they can’t be bothered with the game ... Above average looking guys that could easily pull if they wanted to put in the time/effort, but they don’t want to and $1000 is nothing to them.

    It’s all about perspective at the end of the day.
    Right, I was going to bring up the wealthy and high status Wall St examples. Famous in the 80s/90s for working 100+ hr weeks, and using escorts to bust a nut.
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    Originally Posted by Mercworx View Post
    Tinder.



    ....... unfortunately. Never realized how happy I was to just whack off until recently.
    this im at the point where id rather just fap then deal with these complete guttersluts filled with mental issues the effort and potential damage to your life is just not worth it when you can just fap feel fine after
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    Tinder.



    ....... unfortunately. Never realized how happy I was to just whack off until recently.
    Originally Posted by spadelexus View Post
    I understand how you feel. You have for the first time in your life (?) the prospect of having a child. You are feeling a combination of emotions that are coming from your provider instinct, belief that the opportunity may never come again, and your own ethics.

    These are hard feelings to control. I think you are underestimating how many more opportunities you will have in your life to find a woman that you want to have a family with. Trust me. If you keep in shape, have your chit together, you will have a plethora of much better opportunities down the road.

    Regarding this female. Even before she lied to you about taking plan B you wrote her off.

    Understand that raising a child requires you to actually be there to hug and hold them and not just provide financial support. I am struggling with this now because my kids are on the other side of the country and I foolishly agreed to allow my ex to move back to be closer to her family. It's painful not being able to see them every week.

    If I was in your shoes, which I was in a similar situation with a girl I was seeing last year, I would distance myself from this woman. I would wait 23 hrs to reply to her. Stop seeing her. And get the thought of you being in her/the kids life out of her head.

    Like, I wouldn't even discuss a paternity test. Because that's making her think you'll be there if the child is yours.

    At the end of the day you don't want a relationship with her, you weren't planning on having a child with her, so these should be the guiding factors to how you deal with her now.

    If she decides to have the child, then you discuss paternity tests, best way to be a co-parent, possibly trying to make a relationship work, etc...but untill then you should put the burden all on her. She was suppose to take plan B and didn't.

    It's not easy. But trust me It's going to be a lot harder when 1/3rd of your income goes to her, and your kid gets sick with something and you can only comfort them via skype.

    If she decides to have the child, you ideally want to have an agreement made outside of court. If it goes to court, you want to show them you make little money, so wait to get that higher paying job until this all settles. You don't want her pulling money from your paycheck. You want to send it on your own. You don't want her to relocate. You want to work out visitations that don't interfere with your career goals. That might mean you pay more while the kid is a baby. Then, once you have a plan in place, you find work to make more money. She still gets 1/3rd (or whatever # you initially agreed upon) of your lower paying salary.

    Not sure if that only works with divorce type situations so you need to research it all and probably get legal advice. Im basically paying my ex a salary. But its on income I made when we separated. Its enough that she doesn't have to work. But she does part time making chump change. She has a degree but never used it since she was a stay at home mom and forfeited a career to raise our kids while I busted my ass to put them in private schools. I'm making a lot more now, so instead of renegotiating a new amount, I send her an additional $1000 as a surprise every month with "for kids savings and stuff" as the memo. I bought her a $800 google pixel phone as a gift during the holidays "so she can take better quality pics" of our children. If the next two quarters are good for me then will probably sponser a family trip to Greece or Disney this summer. Paying her way too. With perks like that she doesn't ask for any more, and my kids go to good schools/live in a good neighborhood etc..

    If the laws are similar to divorce situations then your leverage is going to be with her relocating. But don't open your finances to her or let her know about your income trajectory.
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    Originally Posted by BlackScorpio91 View Post
    Building rapport is overrated.

    And what's with these retards and recommending hookers all the time.

    I don't need nor never will pay for a hooker cause I don't need one. I can just find a reciprocating woman or women irl.
    I think he's agreeing with you dude. He specifically stated that if you're just looking to get laid don't bother going on dates, just get drunk and smash. That's a variant of what you do--cold approach, escalate sexually quickly, don't go on a date.
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    What the????? Why is Mercworx banned?

    Oh, and TFW you get your world rocked the day before Vday. Feelsgooooooodman!
    Personal insults in the R/P section. Wasn't very productive, serves me right really.



    Had "the talk" asked if I wanted an abortion and she would do it.


    Had two major thoughts.

    1. I am no better than others who did go through abortions. I was just never in that position before. Shouldn't have judged them as hard as I have in the past.

    2. I have done nothing but run away from responsibility. Regardless of if her and I stay together or not when I think of the abortion I get hazy when I think of keeping it and trying things with her my mind is sharp and clear.


    I told her there would be no abortion. Smashed her guts in afterwards too. Giving it a real honest to God shot. Today I got pissed at her because she said she wouldn't cook. Calmed down and explained I have no problem sharing duties but cooking and sharing a family meal was the way women expressed love in my family. It would be hard for me to be serious with a woman who wouldnt do that.

    She said she didn't mind cooking the meals but didn't want me to expect her to do everything. I said of course not.

    Did the dream job interview last week. Wasn't hard but I was very nervous. Applied to a couple other positions including a few internal ones. Have a couple interviews. One for a company in Memphis and one internal that would he a virtual position with 50% travel.

    Told her if I get the internal virtual one we would finish my lease and no **** relocate back to my hometown (Charlotte) and even the same apartment complex. Excellent place for the money (2 bedrooms for $1200). My family is literally 5 minutes away. Eventually we would move further away but some support early on would help.


    So thats what went down recently. Kinda still want to tag some tail on the side. Not that I ever would do that. Never did it in the past. Weird urge is there though.

    Hope everyone is well.

    Originally Posted by randomuser12345 View Post
    recreated tinder to find out i'm not even sexually attracted to 90% of girls there. And those who i find pretty not gonna match with me. And even if they match just imagening amount of energy i have to put in this one to achieve anything is a dealbreaker. It's over.
    Nearly the case with everyone. At a certain point you can either get laid or keep chasing people who aren't going to respond because they are drowning in options. You may be able to snag one irl due to other factors but online is all about time and looks. I blew it with a few hotties because I can't text well and dont have the energy to entertain women.

    I did lol recently I have a really weak chin and this girl has a really nice solid one for a chick. I thought "well at least maybe I'll ****ing fix that gene".
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    BIG UPDATE.
    Love your update and the forward movement you're making. Can't say I agree or disagree I'm no one to judge but happy it's not in limbo anymore! That's got to be a huge relief.
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