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    CLA +EC stack + Keto + Intermittent fasting = When to take everything?

    Ive been taking a dose of EC at 11am then again at 4pm. I eat in a 4pm-10pm window but usuually 4pm-8pm.

    I just got a good deal on some CLA 2 pills = 1000mg should I take 3k daily? Should I split it up? Should I take it only in my food window?

    Ive seen lots of info on taking it nothing seemed to coincide with keto/intermittent fasting and an EC stack.

    Heres everything I take daily.

    bronkaid + caffeine 250mg + ECGC 500mg / twice
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    Go to the nutrition section. Your plan is a mess.
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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    Go to the nutrition section. Your plan is a mess.
    Anything specifically or just in its entirety? Not really a plan its just the supps I currently take. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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    First off, what are your goals? What is the reason you want to do keto instead of a traditional diet? What is your reason for wanting to use IF as an eating schedule?
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    Originally Posted by CJJ View Post
    Anything specifically or just in its entirety? Not really a plan its just the supps I currently take. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    Read: https://mauiathletics.com/intermittent-fasting/

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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    First off, what are your goals? What is the reason you want to do keto instead of a traditional diet? What is your reason for wanting to use IF as an eating schedule?
    My wife and I had our first baby and she didnt wanna "get fat" alone normally in the winter ill gain from 5-15 lbs this winter I put on a whopping 35. I also have done keto for years usually from January - May. However this is obviously a larger amount to burn off so im trying to be a little more.... caloricly restrictive.


    Seems you are not a fan of IF or keto. Ill tell you personally having done it for years my body responds well to both. I find it muscle sparing and tend to have a bit more energy throughout the day depending on how much I have to lose. My strength takes a dip its definitely a struggle to maintain but comes back.

    I do not however follow the strict keto macros I eat 1g of protein per lb for my target weight as opposed to the 45-65g some calculators suggest. I eat 20-50g of carbs a day depending on the workout that day and fill the calories with healthy fats usually avocado and mct.

    But im basically looking for good times to take CLA / EC
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    1. Lose CLA
    2. IF is good for appetite control if you struggle, but there aren't really any other benefits other than some cognitive benefits avoiding the see-saw effect on blood sugar levels.
    3. Keto = caloric deficit. Your body responds well to eating less kcals than you burn not keto. If you had an adequate caloric deficit and carbs you likely wouldn't lose the strength.



    A. Check out nutrition forums and set up adequate macros/kcals.
    B. Do IF if you want, but keep in mind it's not causing additional fat loss.
    C. Lose keto and keep your strength better.
    D. Still lose CLA.
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    Guys I dont wanna come off rude and I sure dont wanna come off as more knowledgeable than anyone I see your post counts and I see the positive rep you guys are all obviously know what you are talking about. But what im really curious about here is when to take CLA specifically with IF and Keto.

    I get it some of you dont like keto some dont like IF im not trying to glorify either or argue/debate effectiveness. But I can tell you that my body specifically functions well on both ive been on a traditional deficit and a ketogenic diet and I feel way better in keto. I have a brother who could pass as a twin and he does not function well on either.

    I got 350 500mg of CLA for $20 I just wanna test it out for the hype cant really not try it for that right?

    Again I do really appreciate the dietary advice and I only do keto a few months a year usually 2-3 but im here for CLA info and interactions eith EC/IF/Keto.
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    CLA doesn't work. There's no benefit of taking it at all, and that's why you have gotten the responses you've gotten.
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    Probably why I got such a good deal on them then. Thanks for the information ill give it a go during my meal window just to see if it effects me at all.
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    Originally Posted by CJJ View Post
    Seems you are not a fan of IF or keto. Ill tell you personally having done it for years my body responds well to both. I find it muscle sparing and tend to have a bit more energy throughout the day depending on how much I have to lose. My strength takes a dip its definitely a struggle to maintain but comes back.

    I do not however follow the strict keto macros I eat 1g of protein per lb for my target weight as opposed to the 45-65g some calculators suggest. I eat 20-50g of carbs a day depending on the workout that day and fill the calories with healthy fats usually avocado and mct.

    But im basically looking for good times to take CLA / EC
    I simply write what the science says. I even say IF is a good choice for fat loss as a dietary strategy. You are simply not accepting the documented downsides.
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    eat at 1-2pm and 6-7pm, depending from day to day
    i workout before first meal usually i go to gym at Noon
    stims i take are coffee in the morning with some fat burner for some extra caffeine and yohimbine HCL (poor mans Bronkaid) i wake up around 7am
    before gym i either take bcaa and creatine or some preworkout with a bit of caffeine in it
    im also following carnivore diet if it helps or make sense.
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    Originally Posted by Budjola View Post
    im also following carnivore diet if it helps or make sense.
    that does not make sense
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