★Early bird fantasy football discussion 2019★

[Proactive99]

Kittle or Henry Ros?

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[sandcar3]

Thoughts on OBJ ROS? He's been someone I've been waiting to buy low on, but as he continues to perform poorly, I'm second guessing myself as to whether he's a buy low candidate. There is a chance that he never gets on the same page as Mayfield and doesn't produce at WR1 numbers. I have players like Tate and Sutton who are performing better than OBJ and it's hard to trade those players for the potential that OBJ has.

I have no confidence in OBJ and I'd imagine whoever owns him would still want a pretty good player for him, no thanks.

Kittle or Henry Ros?

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Kittle, due for some positive TD regression, and hopefully Sanders will pull some coverage off of him.

[BIgOrange865]

Thoughts on OBJ ROS? He's been someone I've been waiting to buy low on, but as he continues to perform poorly, I'm second guessing myself as to whether he's a buy low candidate. There is a chance that he never gets on the same page as Mayfield and doesn't produce at WR1 numbers. I have players like Tate and Sutton who are performing better than OBJ and it's hard to trade those players for the potential that OBJ has.

I think he is a buy low candidate. They're not going to bench Mayfield and OBJ has had at least 6 targets per game. I'm not sure how Sutton will fare the rest of the year with a new QB under center. I think it is a risk and may not pan out. How do your other receivers look?

[SDOptimist]

Brees for Saquon would get vetoed in any reasonable league. Not even close to fair.

Everyone in the league is grown ass men and there is no collusion. The term "unfair" is what children use. Two grown men agreed upon a trade that they felt they can benefit from. That is why I never veto trades unless there is collusion of course, but even that, hard to prove. If a grown man clicks accept on an unbalanced trade, then that is their decision.

The point of the veto isn't to use for your own benefit or to chose whether you like the trade or not. It is there to protect against collusion. On paper, a lot of trades will look unbalanced. However, you have to look at each teams roster. You can afford to trade away a good player in a position you have strong depth in. You won't be able to see that type of information in the trade.

[Tyler2106]

I think he is a buy low candidate. They're not going to bench Mayfield and OBJ has had at least 6 targets per game. I'm not sure how Sutton will fare the rest of the year with a new QB under center. I think it is a risk and may not pan out. How do your other receivers look?

But those targets have been that way all season and he's done almost nothing with them. Like mentioned above, even though OBJ has struggled and shows no signs of it getting better, the price to trade for him is still too high.

Sutton is a solid option and has fared well without Flacco. I honestly think Sutton is a very underrated WR even with mediocre QB play. He's very talented and should produce WR2 numbers each week.

My team is: Brady, Golladay, Sutton, Dalvin Cook, Zeke and Singletary. I'm happy with that line up but always looking to make it better.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

Thoughts on OBJ ROS? He's been someone I've been waiting to buy low on, but as he continues to perform poorly, I'm second guessing myself as to whether he's a buy low candidate. There is a chance that he never gets on the same page as Mayfield and doesn't produce at WR1 numbers. I have players like Tate and Sutton who are performing better than OBJ and it's hard to trade those players for the potential that OBJ has.

Mayfield has been consistently terrible all year. I've seen nothing that indicates he can get his chit together, and even then he locks in on Landry first. I wouldn't trade because I bet whoever has OBJ will want far too high of a price tag due to the name.

[bullybreed]

Everyone in the league is grown ass men and there is no collusion. The term "unfair" is what children use. Two grown men agreed upon a trade that they felt they can benefit from. That is why I never veto trades unless there is collusion of course, but even that, hard to prove. If a grown man clicks accept on an unbalanced trade, then that is their decision.

The point of the veto isn't to use for your own benefit or to chose whether you like the trade or not. It is there to protect against collusion. On paper, a lot of trades will look unbalanced. However, you have to look at each teams roster. You can afford to trade away a good player in a position you have strong depth in. You won't be able to see that type of information in the trade.

100% this ^^^

[BIgOrange865]

But those targets have been that way all season and he's done almost nothing with them. Like mentioned above, even though OBJ has struggled and shows no signs of it getting better, the price to trade for him is still too high.

Sutton is a solid option and has fared well without Flacco. I honestly think Sutton is a very underrated WR even with mediocre QB play. He's very talented and should produce WR2 numbers each week.

My team is: Brady, Golladay, Sutton, Dalvin Cook, Zeke and Singletary. I'm happy with that line up but always looking to make it better.

I agree, I think someone will want way too much for him given the name recognition. Also as Juggernaut said Mayfield has looked terrible (even at his postgame interview). Is there any other receivers you would want to target and give up a bigger name guy?

[Jayarbie]

Engram in a walking boot, "week to week" with a "mid foot sprain". I need to drop someone to pick up a TE (full PPR). Drop R. Anderson, Shady, or Duke. Or just drop Engram? I think I'm leaning Duke, although he is useful in PPR.

Gesicki looks like the best upside play of anyone available, but there is also Cook, Brate, or Higbee available.

[Murph0408]

Engram in a walking boot, "week to week" with a "mid foot sprain". I need to drop someone to pick up a TE (full PPR). Drop R. Anderson, Shady, or Duke. Or just drop Engram? I think I'm leaning Duke, although he is useful in PPR.

Gesicki looks like the best upside play of anyone available, but there is also Cook, Brate, or Higbee available.

i'm probably dumping robby, i can't imagine you start him too often. jared cook isn't a bad option. gesicki does seem to be getting better.

[Jayarbie]

i'm probably dumping robby, i can't imagine you start him too often. jared cook isn't a bad option. gesicki does seem to be getting better.

I don't start any of them right now. The thing about Robby is that the NYJ schedule starting this week is NYG, WSH, CIN, OAK, MIA. That's the kind of schedule that will make the ghosts go away.

[Jayarbie]

AJ Green "didn't feel well enough to practice" today. Oh fukk, just fukking pay him. My fantasy team needs him and it's pretty clear he's healthy (and has been for a month) and he just isn't going to play without a new contract.

[echo117]

I think I’m gonna start Devin Singletary over Todd Gurley in my ppr league. Tell me I’m not crazy.

[dhawkeye1980]

Wrs are hurting with injuries. Both cooks and shepard prob wont play. Scary terry and dorsett on byes, prob dropping dorsett now that sanu is taking over. I stashed flash to see how he does in seattle but im going to drop dorsett and pick up a WR for this week.

Renfrow
Reynolds
Erickson
Beasley

[Tyler2106]

Wrs are hurting with injuries. Both cooks and shepard prob wont play. Scary terry and dorsett on byes, prob dropping dorsett now that sanu is taking over. I stashed flash to see how he does in seattle but im going to drop dorsett and pick up a WR for this week.

Renfrow
Reynolds
Erickson
Beasley

Reynolds > Beasley > Renfrow > Erickson

Reynolds should fill in nicely for Cooks. He saw 8 targets last week and should see similar this week. Beasley has been a solid PPR option and has found the end zone recently. Renfrow and Erickson aren't players I'd want to start.

[pl_powr]

I think I’m gonna start Devin Singletary over Todd Gurley in my ppr league. Tell me I’m not crazy.

singletary has great matchups next two weeks, have to start him. After that it’s gonna be tough sledding.

[MURedHawk235]

So Robby Anderson has been a let down this year and I need to upgrade my WR3 what kinds of WR do you think I could target with RBs such as Royce Freeman or Miles sanders? Currently I am starting Robby and Ted Ginn due to byes this week

Trade charts say I should be targeting Woods, Calvin Ridley, Gallup, Boyd but I feel like those are too high.

Current RB/WR are below

RB: Bell, Coleman, Jaylen, Miles Sanders, Royce, Mattison, McKissic
WR: Adams, Edelman, Robby, Shepard,

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

So Robby Anderson has been a let down this year and I need to upgrade my WR3 what kinds of WR do you think I could target with RBs such as Royce Freeman or Miles sanders? Currently I am starting Robby and Ted Ginn due to byes this week

Trade charts say I should be targeting Woods, Calvin Ridley, Gallup, Boyd but I feel like those are too high.

Current RB/WR are below

RB: Bell, Coleman, Jaylen, Miles Sanders, Royce, Mattison, McKissic
WR: Adams, Edelman, Robby, Shepard,

I would go for Gallup.

[MURedHawk235]

I would go for Gallup.

I'll try that one the Gallup owners RB are David Johnson, Jamaal williamsn, drake, and edmonds. He doesn't have any depth whatsoever.

There is a guy in the league who has boyd, woods, and John Brown and his rb2 is mixon. Maybe I could swap woods with him in hopes he gets more targets with cooks out for a bit

[sandcar3]

So Robby Anderson has been a let down this year and I need to upgrade my WR3 what kinds of WR do you think I could target with RBs such as Royce Freeman or Miles sanders? Currently I am starting Robby and Ted Ginn due to byes this week

Trade charts say I should be targeting Woods, Calvin Ridley, Gallup, Boyd but I feel like those are too high.

Current RB/WR are below

RB: Bell, Coleman, Jaylen, Miles Sanders, Royce, Mattison, McKissic
WR: Adams, Edelman, Robby, Shepard,

I'd find the team that is deepest at WR in your league and go after their 3rd, 4th, or even 5th WR. If someone is starting Tyreek Hill and Cooper Kupp for example, they may be willing to give up their next WR especially if they are RB needy. With Sanders and Royce both on a Bye this week you may need to move Jaylen or even Coleman though.

[down2pound]

What do you guys think of this trade? his Travis Kelce & Jordan Howard for my Tyreek Hill and Latavius Murray

My roster looks like this before the trade:
WR: Cooper Kupp, Chris Godwin, Josh Gordon, Sammy Watkins, Tyreek Hill
RB: Damien Williams, Melvin Gordon, Leonard Fournette, Austin Ekeler, Todd Gurley, Jamal Williams, Latavius Murray
TE: Evan Engram

[Jayarbie]

What do you guys think of this trade? his Travis Kelce & Jordan Howard for my Tyreek Hill and Latavius Murray

My roster looks like this before the trade:
WR: Cooper Kupp, Chris Godwin, Josh Gordon, Sammy Watkins, Tyreek Hill
RB: Damien Williams, Melvin Gordon, Leonard Fournette, Austin Ekeler, Todd Gurley, Jamal Williams, Latavius Murray
TE: Evan Engram

Can you wait for more updates on Engram before deciding? In a vaccuum, I don't like it because Tyreek is a monster, but if Engram has a lisfranc injury and is looking at a multi-week absence, then you need to panic a little about TE because the FA TEs this year are typically hot garbage.

Engram came up limping in the 4th quarter Monday, but didn't come out of the game and didn't miss a snap, but then yesterday DNP because of a "mid-foot" injury, which can be a lisfranc injury, and is supposedly in a walking boot. With lisfranc, it also depends if it is a break or a sprain. If it was a break, I'd think he'd already be on IR, but sprains/tears can be long term as well (see: Newton, Cam...). The fact that he didn't come out is obviously a good sign.

[down2pound]

Can you wait for more updates on Engram before deciding? In a vaccuum, I don't like it because Tyreek is a monster, but if Engram has a lisfranc injury and is looking at a multi-week absence, then you need to panic a little about TE because the FA TEs this year are typically hot garbage.

Engram came up limping in the 4th quarter Monday, but didn't come out of the game and didn't miss a snap, but then yesterday DNP because of a "mid-foot" injury, which can be a lisfranc injury, and is supposedly in a walking boot. With lisfranc, it also depends if it is a break or a sprain. If it was a break, I'd think he'd already be on IR, but sprains/tears can be long term as well (see: Newton, Cam...). The fact that he didn't come out is obviously a good sign.

Do you think Engram is worthy though? He hasn't been looking good with Tate out there. I thought he'd get more looks since Shepard isn't in the lineup but Jones likes to look for Slayton. I think I get a major upgrade in TE with Kelce, but definitely want to see what yall think.

[Jayarbie]

Do you think Engram is worthy though? He hasn't been looking good with Tate out there. I thought he'd get more looks since Shepard isn't in the lineup but Jones likes to look for Slayton. I think I get a major upgrade in TE with Kelce, but definitely want to see what yall think.

I think Engram is a fine TE if he's healthy. So far this season, Kelce is 49-666-2 and Engram is 44-467-3, so there's not that huge of a difference, certainly not worth losing Hill. That's why I'd try to get more information on Engram first.

[Madvillainy]

Do you think Engram is worthy though? He hasn't been looking good with Tate out there. I thought he'd get more looks since Shepard isn't in the lineup but Jones likes to look for Slayton. I think I get a major upgrade in TE with Kelce, but definitely want to see what yall think.

engram is easily one of the best TEs, you have to remember how **** the position is. considering he missed a game and has only had one bad game when he's been in (less than 4 catches or 40 yards), i'd only put him behind: kelce, kittle, hooper, and henry. you can go either way with ertz, he's been awful up until last week. some will have waller ahead but he's trailed off last couple weeks and isn't as consistent.

[Jayarbie]

https://twitter.com/AB84/status/1192486783872884739

Imagine conforming to a system giving it a 100 percent to see them treat me like this is unfairly ! Making money off my sweat and blood **** the
@nfl
I’ll never play in that **** treat black people the worse! Clear my name and go **** your self

LMAO. I'm sure that will convince them to totally clear his name.

[sandcar3]

https://twitter.com/AB84/status/1192486783872884739

LMAO. I'm sure that will convince them to totally clear his name.

I think this is just a "Hey nobody has talked about me for a couple weeks so I better get my name back out there" thing. So glad I was able to trade him after he signed with NE after week 1.

Tonight is the first Thursday night game in a while where I've got a lot of fantasy skin in the game. Got my Keenan Allen going against Jacobs and Waller in 1 league; got my Rivers and Tyrell Williams going against his Mike Williams in another (traded Williams to this team earlier); and my Waller against Hunter Henry in a 3rd league.

[sfgiants13]

Keenan and Waller going for me tonight. If my entire team could not put up duds this week that would be great (looking at you Jones).

[Jayarbie]

I think this is just a "Hey nobody has talked about me for a couple weeks so I better get my name back out there" thing. So glad I was able to trade him after he signed with NE after week 1.

Tonight is the first Thursday night game in a while where I've got a lot of fantasy skin in the game. Got my Keenan Allen going against Jacobs and Waller in 1 league; got my Rivers and Tyrell Williams going against his Mike Williams in another (traded Williams to this team earlier); and my Waller against Hunter Henry in a 3rd league.

I have Gordon & Waller tonight vs his M Williams. Need a good start to the week.

[Jayarbie]

AJ Green had a "setback", out indefinitely. Ugh, fukk, I'm sure it's nothing a new contract can't fix. C'mon, Bengals, get it done.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...k-indefinitely