★Early bird fantasy football discussion 2019★

**Jayarbie** · 11-05-2019, 05:23 AM

After watching the refs absolutely butcher yet another game last night, I think I've decided that the best rule change that the NFL could possibly implement is just to get rid of the refs altogether and let the teams call their own fouls like pickup basketball or something. What the refs are doing is clearly ruining the game. Last night, it seemed like the Cowboys got a little bit of the worst of it, but it wasn't terribly biased one way or the other, just terrible.

The PI calls were all wrong (yet again). One guy goes right through the receiver's back in about as obvious of a PI as there is and not only is there no call, there's no reversal on review. Then, two guys are just hand checking down the field and that one gets flagged.

The unsportsmanlike calls were 100% one sided. All through the second half, there are scrums and pushing and shoving after the whistle, mostly instigated by the same Giants lineman, and the Cowboys got every single call. That either needs to be let go or called both ways. Both teams were engaged.

The worst was the PF for blocking. This call was made in the London game too. The ball carrier has a defender about to tackle him, and a WR comes across and blocks him off right before he makes the play to spring his teammate for 10 more yards. There was no helmet to helmet contact, the player wasn't defenseless, it wasn't from the back. THAT'S A FUKCING BLOCK, NOT A PENALTY.

Just atrocious. It's really time to take the "look at me, I'm making a call!!!" refs out of the game completely.

**JUGGERNAUT1333** · 11-05-2019, 05:35 AM

^^ It's amazing how bad the officiating has been this year in the NFL.

**SDOptimist** · 11-05-2019, 07:01 AM

Started off 0-5 in one of my two leagues. Now, I am 4-5. Inching up to the top.

**Jayarbie** · 11-05-2019, 07:31 AM

Alright, need 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 flex from the following:

Ingram @Cin (definitely in)
Gordon @Oak (Thurs)
Gurley @Pit
Evans ARI (definitely in)
Golladay @Chi - forecast is rain/snow/wind right now
Green BAL

I'm pretty much in on Gordon as well, so I need 2 out of Golladay in bad weather at Chicago, Gurley @Pit against a D getting better every week, and Green in his first game against a tough BAL secondary with a rookie QB.

**dhawkeye1980** · 11-05-2019, 07:32 AM

Jets add a RB after bells MRI must not have been good

**sandcar3** · 11-05-2019, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by Jayarbie

Alright, need 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 flex from the following:

Ingram @Cin (definitely in)
Gordon @Oak (Thurs)
Gurley @Pit
Evans ARI (definitely in)
Golladay @Chi - forecast is rain/snow/wind right now
Green BAL

I'm pretty much in on Gordon as well, so I need 2 out of Golladay in bad weather at Chicago, Gurley @Pit against a D getting better every week, and Green in his first game against a tough BAL secondary with a rookie QB.

I'd sit Green.

**Jayarbie** · 11-05-2019, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by sandcar3

I'd sit Green.

Thanks (still on spread).

**JUGGERNAUT1333** · 11-05-2019, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by Jayarbie

Alright, need 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 flex from the following:

Ingram @Cin (definitely in)
Gordon @Oak (Thurs)
Gurley @Pit
Evans ARI (definitely in)
Golladay @Chi - forecast is rain/snow/wind right now
Green BAL

I'm pretty much in on Gordon as well, so I need 2 out of Golladay in bad weather at Chicago, Gurley @Pit against a D getting better every week, and Green in his first game against a tough BAL secondary with a rookie QB.

I think you have to sit Green. No idea how that situation is going to play out.

inb4 200yds and 2 TDs

**Tyler2106** · 11-05-2019, 08:53 AM

Kareem Hunt back from suspension. Brown GM said he'll definitely have a role in week 10. Have to fade Chubb a bit.

**JUGGERNAUT1333** · 11-05-2019, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Tyler2106

Kareem Hunt back from suspension. Brown GM said he'll definitely have a role in week 10. Have to fade Chubb a bit.

I hope Hunt gets work, I own him in the league I'm RB needy. I highly doubt he'll be fantasy relevant though. Kitchen's is a fukin moron to begin with, and Chubb is leading the AFC in rushing. I hope I'm wrong, I could use a solid 10-12 touch outlook for Hunt.

**Tyler2106** · 11-05-2019, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333

I hope Hunt gets work, I own him in the league I'm RB needy. I highly doubt he'll be fantasy relevant though. Kitchen's is a fukin moron to begin with, and Chubb is leading the AFC in rushing. I hope I'm wrong, I could use a solid 10-12 touch outlook for Hunt.

The Yahoo app says Chubb has played just 62% of team snaps in the last 2 games, so looks like Hunt should get his chances. It'll be interesting to see how he's used moving forward.

**Jayarbie** · 11-05-2019, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by Tyler2106

The Yahoo app says Chubb has played just 62% of team snaps in the last 2 games, so looks like Hunt should get his chances. It'll be interesting to see how he's used moving forward.

Yeah, the first thing he's going to do is cut Dontrell Hilliard out of the game script, so I wouldn't fade Chubb too much quite yet, but it will be interesting to see how this plays out. Chubb is one of the few Browns actually playing well, so they would be really stupid to use him less, but, of course, Browns gonna Browns, so...

**JUGGERNAUT1333** · 11-05-2019, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Tyler2106

The Yahoo app says Chubb has played just 62% of team snaps in the last 2 games, so looks like Hunt should get his chances. It'll be interesting to see how he's used moving forward.

62% and he's still going over 100yds..... I feel bad for Browns fans. They showed so much promise the 2nd half of last year, and now they are in the dumps again despite the talent load. I agree with Jay that Hilliard will probably get cut out and Hunt slides in....

But again, Browns gonna Brown......

**Tyler2106** · 11-05-2019, 09:52 AM

Is Kamara playing this week? With L Murray's performance in Kamara's absence, did he make a case to play more of a Mark Ingram type role or will he continue to be a change of pace back?

**Jayarbie** · 11-05-2019, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Tyler2106

Is Kamara playing this week? With L Murray's performance in Kamara's absence, did he make a case to play more of a Mark Ingram type role or will he continue to be a change of pace back?

Kamara is supposed to play. Don't know about Murray's role. If Kamara is still a little dinged, Murray will probably have a little bigger role than he did before when Kamara was healthy.

**Jayarbie** · 11-05-2019, 10:47 AM

Cam on IR. Season over.

Foles to start week 11. Not a surprise. All he did in week 1 was drop a dime in a bucket from 45 yards out while taking a huge hit. That's pretty much exactly what they signed him to do. There was no reason to think he wouldn't start when healthy. He wasn't benched.

**JUGGERNAUT1333** · 11-05-2019, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Tyler2106

Is Kamara playing this week? With L Murray's performance in Kamara's absence, did he make a case to play more of a Mark Ingram type role or will he continue to be a change of pace back?

If Kamara is 100% I would think it goes back to normal. Murray is a solid back, but Kamara is on another level. You want your playmakers getting the ball as often as possible.

**JUGGERNAUT1333** · 11-05-2019, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Jayarbie

Cam on IR. Season over.

Foles to start week 11. Not a surprise. All he did in week 1 was drop a dime in a bucket from 45 yards out while taking a huge hit. That's pretty much exactly what they signed him to do. There was no reason to think he wouldn't start when healthy. He wasn't benched.

Hoping this will boost Chark Jr. even more.

**Jayarbie** · 11-05-2019, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333

Hoping this will boost Chark Jr. even more.

Supposedly, Foles worked extensively with Dede Westbrook on timing in the offseason. His return should help all of the Jags WRs, although Minshew certainly wasn't terrible.

**JUGGERNAUT1333** · 11-05-2019, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Jayarbie

Supposedly, Foles worked extensively with Dede Westbrook on timing in the offseason. His return should help all of the Jags WRs, although Minshew certainly wasn't terrible.

Wonder if Cam has played his last snap in Carolina.

**Jayarbie** · 11-05-2019, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by JUGGERNAUT1333

Wonder if Cam has played his last snap in Carolina.

It's possible, although he only has one year left on his contract from 2015 at $19m (non-guaranteed), which is a bargain for a starting QB now, so the Panthers can keep him relatively low cost or cut him without any implications.

**SDOptimist** · 11-05-2019, 04:38 PM

Was just offered Saquon for Drew Brees. What do you think? The exact trade was my Brees and Jaylen Samuels for his Saquon and Gore.

**WHChampion** · 11-05-2019, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by SDOptimist

Was just offered Saquon for Drew Brees. What do you think? The exact trade was my Brees and Jaylen Samuels for his Saquon and Gore.

You hit accept then get mad when it's vetoed.

**SDOptimist** · 11-05-2019, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by WHChampion

You hit accept then get mad when it's vetoed.

Haha yah. I am hoping that doesn't happen. Doubt it will. I know everyone in the league and they aren't douchie like that. We will see. I accepted. The guy was hurting bad for a qb and Brees is my backup, and I am hurting for an RB.

**Jayarbie** · 11-05-2019, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by SDOptimist

Was just offered Saquon for Drew Brees. What do you think? The exact trade was my Brees and Jaylen Samuels for his Saquon and Gore.

Well, Gore is trending towards FA material as Singletary's role grows, so it's really Brees & Samuels for Saquon. Either way, this is an easy accept. Even if Conner was out for the year and Samuels was the long term feature back, it's an easy accept. It's hard to believe anyone would ever even offer that. LOL.

**SDOptimist** · 11-05-2019, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Jayarbie

Well, Gore is trending towards FA material as Singletary's role grows, so it's really Brees & Samuels for Saquon. Either way, this is an easy accept. Even if Conner was out for the year and Samuels was the long term feature back, it's an easy accept. It's hard to believe anyone would ever even offer that. LOL.

Yah Gore was just a filler. Hopefully it doesn’t get vetoed

**Hoop_Dreams** · 11-05-2019, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by SDOptimist

Yah Gore was just a filler. Hopefully it doesn’t get vetoed

Brees for Saquon would get vetoed in any reasonable league. Not even close to fair.

**The_Standard** · 11-06-2019, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by Hoop_Dreams

Brees for Saquon would get vetoed in any reasonable league. Not even close to fair.

It's a completely team dependent trade. Just because you don't like the trade doesn't mean it should get vetoed.

**BIgOrange865** · 11-06-2019, 05:12 AM

Trade of ARob for Winston just got accepted. Needed a QB since Brady is on a bye.

Hopefully Singletary is the primary moving forward. He's got a pretty easy schedule coming up. Hopefully Winston doesn't go full potato.

**Tyler2106** · 11-06-2019, 07:23 AM

Thoughts on OBJ ROS? He's been someone I've been waiting to buy low on, but as he continues to perform poorly, I'm second guessing myself as to whether he's a buy low candidate. There is a chance that he never gets on the same page as Mayfield and doesn't produce at WR1 numbers. I have players like Tate and Sutton who are performing better than OBJ and it's hard to trade those players for the potential that OBJ has.

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