★Early bird fantasy football discussion 2019★

[Fiz-iks]

Oj howard has 2 previous years of playing behind cameron brate who has been a td machine with winston for like 4 years. people were high on Howard because of his athletic profile, not what he has proven. kittle was a target magnet at the end of 2017 which put people onto him last year, waller had coaches and every other player on the raiders saying he was a stud and needed to be featured. dissly balled out for 3 games last year and everyone was saying it was an anomaly even tho russ wilson himself said "the kid is a baller", and talked about how he could throw him the bll and he would "go get it".

I don't know how any of this applies...?

[cncman]

Oj howard has 2 previous years of playing behind cameron brate who has been a td machine with winston for like 4 years. people were high on Howard because of his athletic profile, not what he has proven. kittle was a target magnet at the end of 2017 which put people onto him last year, waller had coaches and every other player on the raiders saying he was a stud and needed to be featured. dissly balled out for 3 games last year and everyone was saying it was an anomaly even tho russ wilson himself said "the kid is a baller", and talked about how he could throw him the bll and he would "go get it".

its winston sucking and mike evans being his only target

[BombsAwayBoyos]

Alright boyos who we starting between Allen Robinson or Agholor

[Jayarbie]

Alright boyos who we starting between Allen Robinson or Agholor

A-Rob. Stay away from Thurs road teams.

[weightsb4dates]

I don't know how any of this applies...?

just pointing out that sometimes you can get hints and tips for guys who are going to break out from the guys who are actually giving them the ball or are in the facility with them daily.

[Tyler2106]

A-Rob. Stay away from Thurs road teams.

Is Jeffrey playing? If not, I like Agholor more. Bears hosting the Vikings will be a tough game for Mitch and Mitch hasn't shown he's good under pressure. I would put A-Rob in the 8-12 point range.

[Jayarbie]

You're not taking into account several factors. 1) Bust rates 2) Opportunity cost 3) Predictability

These are arguments against drafting a TE high in the draft, and you are correct, but HayZues is agreeing with that. His point is to make sure you have a top one one way or another. In the draft, there are always a couple of "can't miss" guys (i.e. Kelce or Gronk) that are justifiable high picks, but other than that, it's a game of either knowing which late round flyer is going to break out (i.e. Waller, Andrews) or making a trade early in the year once you see who is actually balling to make sure you have the position solidified.

The analysis is correct. HAVING an elite TE is critical, DRAFTING a TE early in the draft is not necessarily the way to do it, though, unless you're getting a can't miss guy.

[Jayarbie]

Is Jeffrey playing? If not, I like Agholor more. Bears hosting the Vikings will be a tough game for Mitch and Mitch hasn't shown he's good under pressure. I would put A-Rob in the 8-12 point range.

Jeffrey & Goedart are returning, D-Jax is still out. Jeffrey was removed from the injury report altogether and practiced in full yesterday.

[Jayarbie]

Before Yesterday: Gordon is returning week 6-10
Yesterday: Gordon is returning tomorrow but not playing this week
Today: Gordon is back and Lynn "doubts" he will play this week
Tomorrow: Lace 'em Up, Boyo and go destroy the Dolphins!

[Jayarbie]

Scary Terry update:

The good: Keenum practiced in full today, so you don't have to worry about the Colt McCoy effect on him.
The bad: McLaurin himself was limited and added to the injury report with a hammy. Not good to have a mid-week soft tissue injury.

[Murph0408]

Terry owners go get Richardson now while you can. backup plan and he will be a busy man vs an easy giants D if terry is out.

[cncman]

Scary Terry update:

The good: Keenum practiced in full today, so you don't have to worry about the Colt McCoy effect on him.
The bad: McLaurin himself was limited and added to the injury report with a hammy. Not good to have a mid-week soft tissue injury.

He threw 77 pct at Texas. What a bum

[HayZues Christi]

correct. OJ howard was a real good TE and supposed to be a top 5-6 option

That's why I said I agree with drafting TE late. If I didn't get one of the top 3 guys this year, I wasnt going to draft a TE until last few rounds.

I'm saying once a few guys elevate themselves, dont be afraid to go after them. The VoR of a good TE is higher than other positions.


Ironically, I also believe if there is a position you can afford to be weak at, its TE. Since most your opponents will be too.

You either want a top TE or punt in the position completely imo. OJ Howard would never make my team.

[Jayarbie]

He threw 77 pct at Texas. What a bum

McCoy is an average NFL backup, but he's a game manager who lacks elite NFL arm strength. McLaurin is a burner with 4.3 speed who was actually drafted as a punt gunner because of his straight line speed who is averaging 16 yards per catch. They are not a good fit at all. McCoy in the game benefits Thompson and hurts McLaurin.

[Blasting]

He threw 77 pct at Texas. What a bum

Poor fellow is living in the past. It’s okay, bud, Texas will be good again one of these decades.

[MURedHawk235]

Man this dude is relentless with his TE offers.

His most recent one is: I give Locket and G. Tate and I get Waller, T. Coleman, and MVS

Current Team: ppr, start 3 WR
RB: Chubb, Sony, Peterson, Gore, Darrely Williams, Mattison
WR: Hopkins, Diggs, Locket, Tate, Robby Anderson
TE: Ebron

[HayZues Christi]

McCoy is an average NFL backup, but he's a game manager who lacks elite NFL arm strength. McLaurin is a burner with 4.3 speed who was actually drafted as a punt gunner because of his straight line speed who is averaging 16 yards per catch. They are not a good fit at all. McCoy in the game benefits Thompson and hurts McLaurin.

If you think f1 mclaurin is just a burner running 9s, you are incredibly wrong. Best route runner in last years draft with great hands.

Hes more Steve Smith sr than ted ginn jr.

[HayZues Christi]

Man this dude is relentless with his TE offers.

His most recent one is: I give Locket and G. Tate and I get Waller, T. Coleman, and MVS

Current Team: ppr, start 3 WR
RB: Chubb, Sony, Peterson, Gore, Darrely Williams, Mattison
WR: Hopkins, Diggs, Locket, Tate, Robby Anderson
TE: Ebron

Diggs for Waller and Mvs. You don't want any part of that crowded backfield in SF.

Post his team.

[MURedHawk235]

Diggs for Waller and Mvs. You don't want any part of that crowded backfield in SF.

Post his team.

His Team
RB: Kamara, Freeman, Coleman, Miles Sanders, Singletary
WR: Evans, Alshon, MVS, M. Harman, Pettis, Cobb
TE: Engram, Waller

[Jayarbie]

If you think f1 mclaurin is just a burner running 9s, you are incredibly wrong. Best route runner in last years draft with great hands.

Hes more Steve Smith sr than ted ginn jr.

He has been a great all around receiver, but the extent of his route running and other receiving skills at this point in his development have been somewhat of a surprise to everyone, including the Redskins. He was originally drafted as high as the third round because of his speed and ability to be an impact special teamer right away, and that is still a primary asset that will be underutilized with a QB like McCoy who can't get the ball effectively downfield to him.

[thefullmonte]

McCoy is an average NFL backup, but he's a game manager who lacks elite NFL arm strength. McLaurin is a burner with 4.3 speed who was actually drafted as a punt gunner because of his straight line speed who is averaging 16 yards per catch. They are not a good fit at all. McCoy in the game benefits Thompson and hurts McLaurin.

Stop this. Terry McLaurin was NOT drafted as a “punt gunner.” NFL teams do not spend 3rd round draft picks on a guy only seen as a special teams player. Just stop it.

You can say he was expected to contribute on special teams while he developed as a rookie. And that would be fine, and accurate.

But to simply state that he was drafted to be a gunner is just silly, and wrong.

[HayZues Christi]

His Team
RB: Kamara, Freeman, Coleman, Miles Sanders, Singletary
WR: Evans, Alshon, MVS, M. Harman, Pettis, Cobb
TE: Engram, Waller

Locket and gore for Waller and Freeman. See if he bites.

Or Diggs for Waller and Singletary. At least then you'll have buffalos backfield. Cant own just 1 at this point, but hopefully Singletary takes over and becomes this years kerryon johnson

[BeastinFitness]

Fuk, Gordon returning will hurt Eckelers fantasy value. I need a big game from Davante tonight.

[MSUD5]

boys jeffrey or agholor ppr?

[IPoopStandingUp]

boys jeffrey or agholor ppr?

Scroll up a few posts breh

[Proactive99]

Is David Johnson a big upgrade over Joe Mixon?
I’m thinking of packaging Mixon and Mclaurin for him.

No ppr

[Jayarbie]

Stop this. Terry McLaurin was NOT drafted as a “punt gunner.” NFL teams do not spend 3rd round draft picks on a guy only seen as a special teams player. Just stop it.

You can say he was expected to contribute on special teams while he developed as a rookie. And that would be fine, and accurate.

But to simply state that he was drafted to be a gunner is just silly, and wrong.

We're saying the same thing. He wasn't drafted thinking his whole career would be on special teams, but going into the draft, he was viewed as a project as a route runner who would take time to develop as a receiver and would not have been drafted as high as he was if he wasn't seen as an immediate contributor on special teams because of his speed. His development as a receiver has been far greater than anyone anticipated.

[BeastinFitness]

Lettss goooooo

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

God damnit, Adams does all the work to get there and Jones gets the TD

[BeastinFitness]

God damnit, Adams does all the work to get there and Jones gets the TD

I know, was hoping he'd get the TD too, but he has more points in 5 mins than all game last week, so it is what it is.