★Early bird fantasy football discussion 2019★

[bbrower30]

So in my league, winner of consolation bracket (me) gets to pick their draft position. If you had your choice in a 12 man snake, .5 ppr redraft, where would you want to draft? Right now, I'm thinking 4 so I'm guaranteed one of Barkley, Zeke, CMC or Kamara. After that, I see a little drop off.

But I havent done much research yet and I'm continually second guessing what pick I should take. Help me brahs

Go 1st, take Barkley. You're still set up for 2 studs at the 2/3 turn

[Jhuth13]

Go 1st, take Barkley. You're still set up for 2 studs at the 2/3 turn

Thats what I initially thought, but is Barkley worth falling back 3 picks every round? Honestly, I've never had to pick my spot before so I have no idea what the best strategy is.

[bbrower30]

Thats what I initially thought, but is Barkley worth falling back 3 picks every round? Honestly, I've never had to pick my spot before so I have no idea what the best strategy is.

The falling back 3 picks every round thinking is a bit off. Your picking 1st every other round. In any ppr format Barkley is an easy number 1 for me. He's going to catch at least 80 balls and be on the field almost every down, no matter the score. Zeke is about in the same situation, but won't catch near as many balls. CMC and Kamara aren't in the same tier as far as I'm concerned.

[yuja]

So in my league, winner of consolation bracket (me) gets to pick their draft position. If you had your choice in a 12 man snake, .5 ppr redraft, where would you want to draft? Right now, I'm thinking 4 so I'm guaranteed one of Barkley, Zeke, CMC or Kamara. After that, I see a little drop off.

But I havent done much research yet and I'm continually second guessing what pick I should take. Help me brahs

I'd be cool with a top 4 spot

Combining one of the top 4 RBs + one of the WR/RBs around the 20ish range (where ur 2nd/3rd picks are) sets you up really well

brb Zeke + Hilton/Allen. You could even grab Gurley if you're feeling risky

Absolutely.....see my post a few above....lol #144

Lul I skipped over your post

wasn't salty enough

[Jhuth13]

The falling back 3 picks every round thinking is a bit off. Your picking 1st every other round. In any ppr format Barkley is an easy number 1 for me. He's going to catch at least 80 balls and be on the field almost every down, no matter the score. Zeke is about in the same situation, but won't catch near as many balls. CMC and Kamara aren't in the same tier as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, I guess that's true. its the 3 extra spots coming back. Maybe it FEELS like you're losing ground when you see those 3 players come off the board, but like you said, you start #1 every other round. Honestly, its kind of a crap shoot anyway. Quality of pick and a lot of luck trump draft position.

[lifter2019]

The falling back 3 picks every round thinking is a bit off. Your picking 1st every other round. In any ppr format Barkley is an easy number 1 for me. He's going to catch at least 80 balls and be on the field almost every down, no matter the score. Zeke is about in the same situation, but won't catch near as many balls. CMC and Kamara aren't in the same tier as far as I'm concerned.

I kinda disagree. I would take Kamara first because his role is the most secure/known and he's on the best offense. Barkley probably has the best skill, but losing OBJ could really hurt that offense. He played 4 games without OBJ and averaged 5 fewer fantasy points.

[bullybreed]

The falling back 3 picks every round thinking is a bit off. Your picking 1st every other round. In any ppr format Barkley is an easy number 1 for me. He's going to catch at least 80 balls and be on the field almost every down, no matter the score. Zeke is about in the same situation, but won't catch near as many balls. CMC and Kamara aren't in the same tier as far as I'm concerned.

2018 Snap Counts -

Barkley - 84.5%
Zeke - 89.3%
CMC - 97%
Kamara - 66.4%

It was widely known last year that CMC rarely came off the field. The guy had 107 receptions last season and 80 the year before. Zeke had 77 receptions last season. So I'm not sure how you think Zeke can't hit 80 catches like Barkley?

Kamara had over 1500 total yards and 18 TDs and was in nearly a 60/40 split with Ingram. Murray isn't as good as Ingram and I doubt he will be on the field as much as Ingram was. I'd bet Kamara jumps up towards a 70/30 split this season or more and has a monster year.

I would rank these 4 in this order personally for any PPR format -

Barkley
CMC
Zeke
Kamara

Really though, any of the 4 and you're likely looking at 2000 total yards, between 75-100 receptions and easy double digit TDs. You can't go wrong with any of them.

[Murph0408]

is the yahoo league chat giving anybody else trouble? i renewed my league but the chat feature isn't available for it

[weightsb4dates]

is the yahoo league chat giving anybody else trouble? i renewed my league but the chat feature isn't available for it

yea. I left a bad review and I got a response from the developer saying that the app was under development and to chill out (basically). lol. Thats one of my favorite features of the yahoo platform tbh. can no longer tag league mates nor can you add pictures, and I havent been able to update my team photo for a couple of leagues

[Tyler2106]

Sup boyos! Excited to be back in the football mode. Haven't done much with football since the draft, but it's time to start the researching!

[yuja]

Sup boyos! Excited to be back in the football mode. Haven't done much with football since the draft, but it's time to start the researching!

ayy Tyler welcome back

going to use slack this yr for my misc leagues. I have a chat with some other brehs from ff basketball and its really chill 1000x better than yahoo chat

[Fiz-iks]

yea. I left a bad review and I got a response from the developer saying that the app was under development and to chill out (basically). lol. Thats one of my favorite features of the yahoo platform tbh. can no longer tag league mates nor can you add pictures, and I havent been able to update my team photo for a couple of leagues

AFAIK, it's supposed to be ready for the new season. I'm sure they will have it up and running soon.

ayy Tyler welcome back

going to use slack this yr for my misc leagues. I have a chat with some other brehs from ff basketball and its really chill 1000x better than yahoo chat

What do you think about switching over to Sleeper? We're using it for misc dynasty and it's really good.

[Tyler2106]

what do you think about switching over to sleeper? We're using it for misc dynasty and it's really good.

gtfo

[bullybreed]

gtfo

Guess that's why you haven't said a single word since last season for the dynasty league, huh?



lol

[Tyler2106]

Guess that's why you haven't said a single word since last season for the dynasty league, huh?



lol

Brotado, it's called the off season and having a life. Yahoo is a better app for Strong Everything. Don't need Sleeper for it.

[bullybreed]

Brotado, it's called the off season and having a life. Yahoo is a better app for Strong Everything. Don't need Sleeper for it.

You joined a dynasty league. There really isn't much of an off season. And you skipped out entirely on the rookie draft. Kind of ****ty to be honest.

Dynasty is year round participation. You knew that coming into it. You shouldn't have joined if you can't even make a single appearance in the league after the NFL season is over. Then to not even show up for the rookie draft after repeated attempts to contact you. Then you troll us in misc by ignoring our posts. Just lol @ you. I'm not saying you have to be involved in all the banter that goes on in the chat, I've silenced most of that. But I check in now and then and I showed up for the draft.

[Fiz-iks]

Brotado, it's called the off season and having a life. Yahoo is a better app for Strong Everything. Don't need Sleeper for it.

"Yahoo is a better app for everyone because I prefer it." --> pretty weak argument

You joined a dynasty league. There really isn't much of an off season. And you skipped out entirely on the rookie draft. Kind of ****ty to be honest.

Dynasty is year round participation. You knew that coming into it. You shouldn't have joined if you can't even make a single appearance in the league after the NFL season is over. Then to not even show up for the rookie draft after repeated attempts to contact you. Then you troll us in misc by ignoring our posts. Just lol @ you. I'm not saying you have to be involved in all the banter that goes on in the chat, I've silenced most of that. But I check in now and then and I showed up for the draft.

This. We legit waited like an extra week and then even gave you like 8 hours or something to make your first pick. If you didn't want to participate fine, but let everyone know so we're not unnecessarily delaying things. Everyone else was engaged and showed up except for Ag who had his apartment flooded.

Unreal how you have this attitude after annoying everyone.

[Fiz-iks]

What's everyone looking for in training camp this season? What are the main positional battles to be aware of? I find most of the reporting is really overblown, so it's interesting to see if we can spot what actually matters for fantasy. One of the big things I'll be watching for is rookies who end up in situations like Ronald Jones last season where he kept getting slammed by the coaching staff. Will definitely be taking that as a big warning sign.

[Jayarbie]

What's everyone looking for in training camp this season? What are the main positional battles to be aware of? I find most of the reporting is really overblown, so it's interesting to see if we can spot what actually matters for fantasy. One of the big things I'll be watching for is rookies who end up in situations like Ronald Jones last season where he kept getting slammed by the coaching staff. Will definitely be taking that as a big warning sign.

Jones is a major sleeper this year.

My keeper choices for this year:

Woods (5th)
Golladay (12th)
Kirk (15th)

I think I'm leaning Golladay at this point, but I'll be interested in reports on Kirk at camp. Kingsbury's offense is supposed to be uptempo and pass-happy, although with a rookie QB. L Fitz said he was impressed, and Kirk has supposedly looked good in mini-camp. Opinons?

[Murph0408]

What's everyone looking for in training camp this season? What are the main positional battles to be aware of? I find most of the reporting is really overblown, so it's interesting to see if we can spot what actually matters for fantasy. One of the big things I'll be watching for is rookies who end up in situations like Ronald Jones last season where he kept getting slammed by the coaching staff. Will definitely be taking that as a big warning sign.

when it comes to training camp i'm just hoping everyone stays healthy. very little can be taken seriously. there's always a few hype beasts coming out of camp but i can't get into it until late august. otherwise it'll drive you nuts.

once you get to preseason you can see who is playing with the first team offense, who starts, who leaves the game when the starters leave the game. that kinda thing helps. stuff like that helped me reach for kerryon johnson, which really paid off but he got hurt. he's an example off the top of my head of a kid who got some hype and delivered.

[Tyler2106]

You joined a dynasty league. There really isn't much of an off season. And you skipped out entirely on the rookie draft. Kind of ****ty to be honest.

Dynasty is year round participation. You knew that coming into it. You shouldn't have joined if you can't even make a single appearance in the league after the NFL season is over. Then to not even show up for the rookie draft after repeated attempts to contact you. Then you troll us in misc by ignoring our posts. Just lol @ you. I'm not saying you have to be involved in all the banter that goes on in the chat, I've silenced most of that. But I check in now and then and I showed up for the draft.

"Yahoo is a better app for everyone because I prefer it." --> pretty weak argument



This. We legit waited like an extra week and then even gave you like 8 hours or something to make your first pick. If you didn't want to participate fine, but let everyone know so we're not unnecessarily delaying things. Everyone else was engaged and showed up except for Ag who had his apartment flooded.

Unreal how you have this attitude after annoying everyone.

I checked in multiple times when the draft was going on, but it wasn't ever my pick when I did. The time limit was set to 8 hours and others were taking hours to make their picks, so lettuce not pretend like I was the only one slowing down the draft.

Chit came up IRL and I couldn't check the draft every hour. I don't get why you guys are so butthurt. I'm obviously going to participate and beat you guys again this year.

[bullybreed]

I checked in multiple times when the draft was going on, but it wasn't ever my pick when I did. The time limit was set to 8 hours and others were taking hours to make their picks, so lettuce not pretend like I was the only one slowing down the draft.

Chit came up IRL and I couldn't check the draft every hour. I don't get why you guys are so butthurt. I'm obviously going to participate and beat you guys again this year.

lol you're impossible.

This will be the last post I make about this because I don't want to fill this thread with your BS.

Your excuse about "things came up IRL" is BS. If you can browse MISC and post in your Pats thread and other various threads while we are drafting, you should be able to hop into the app when you get notified its your pick and make it. You can turn off all the notifications in the chat (if that was bothering you) and still get notified when it's your pick. Not have us wait a full 8 hours each time and then get auto drafted. You also could have literally popped in and said hey, I don't have time to draft right now. Make my picks for me. And we could have made your pick instantly instead of waiting the full 8 hours. But you left us all hanging the entire week.

[Tyler2106]

I think I'm leaning Golladay at this point, but I'll be interested in reports on Kirk at camp. Kingsbury's offense is supposed to be uptempo and pass-happy, although with a rookie QB. L Fitz said he was impressed, and Kirk has supposedly looked good in mini-camp. Opinons?

The Cardinals had so many issues last season and addressed a few of them, but there are so many question marks yet. Kirk in the 15th seems pretty good though. He wouldn't be a starter or FLEX for me. I have a hard time thinking the Cardinals are going to turn things around and that Murray is their answer.

[yuja]

when it comes to training camp i'm just hoping everyone stays healthy. very little can be taken seriously. there's always a few hype beasts coming out of camp but i can't get into it until late august. otherwise it'll drive you nuts.

once you get to preseason you can see who is playing with the first team offense, who starts, who leaves the game when the starters leave the game. that kinda thing helps. stuff like that helped me reach for kerryon johnson, which really paid off but he got hurt. he's an example off the top of my head of a kid who got some hype and delivered.

guys I'm watching ranked 100+ atm on yahoo

Royce Freeman - depending on how Lindsay is recovering from his injury. Could be a value RB1 pick in the back half of the draft

N'Keal Harry - he's a rookie learning the patriots offense so not expecting much but....opportunity is definitely there

Darrell Henderson - depending on Gur-knee

Ronald Jones - been seeing good reviews about him so far in the offseason

James Washington - next man up to play 2 next to Juju

Ekeler/JJ - Gordon holdout

DK Metcalf (late late)

[Tyler2106]

lol you're impossible.

This will be the last post I make about this because I don't want to fill this thread with your BS.

Your excuse about "things came up IRL" is BS. If you can browse MISC and post in your Pats thread and other various threads while we are drafting, you should be able to hop into the app when you get notified its your pick and make it. You can turn off all the notifications in the chat (if that was bothering you) and still get notified when it's your pick. Not have us wait a full 8 hours each time and then get auto drafted. You also could have literally popped in and said hey, I don't have time to draft right now. Make my picks for me. And we could have made your pick instantly instead of waiting the full 8 hours. But you left us all hanging the entire week.

Lol I'm impossible and you're overly butthurt. Can we kiss and make up?

[bullybreed]

What's everyone thinking on Austin Hooper this season as a late round TE? All the mocks I'm doing, if I can't get Kelce fairly early I'm ending up with Hooper in round 13 or 14. I know ATL has a ton of dome games this season, I believe like 13? He's gotten progressively better each season. Falcons increased their O-Line talent, and have a better coordinator this seasons.

This would be for a half PPR 10 team league, that I have been mocking for which I have the 7th pick at.

2016 - 19/271/3
2017 - 49/526/3
2018 - 71/660/4

For reference guys being ranked ahead of him and last season's stats -

OJ Howard - 34/565/5
Hunter Henry - 45/579/4 (2017)
Vance McDonald - 50/610/4
David Njoku - 56/639/4
Hockenson - Hasn't played an NFL snap

[weightsb4dates]

lol you're impossible.

This will be the last post I make about this because I don't want to fill this thread with your BS.

Your excuse about "things came up IRL" is BS. If you can browse MISC and post in your Pats thread and other various threads while we are drafting, you should be able to hop into the app when you get notified its your pick and make it. You can turn off all the notifications in the chat (if that was bothering you) and still get notified when it's your pick. Not have us wait a full 8 hours each time and then get auto drafted. You also could have literally popped in and said hey, I don't have time to draft right now. Make my picks for me. And we could have made your pick instantly instead of waiting the full 8 hours. But you left us all hanging the entire week.

lol bro Tyler is literally the worst poster on the sports misc. You asked for trouble when you invited him to play with you.

[sandcar3]

What's everyone thinking on Austin Hooper this season as a late round TE? All the mocks I'm doing, if I can't get Kelce fairly early I'm ending up with Hooper in round 13 or 14. I know ATL has a ton of dome games this season, I believe like 13? He's gotten progressively better each season. Falcons increased their O-Line talent, and have a better coordinator this seasons.

This would be for a half PPR 10 team league, that I have been mocking for which I have the 7th pick at.

2016 - 19/271/3
2017 - 49/526/3
2018 - 71/660/4

For reference guys being ranked ahead of him and last season's stats -

OJ Howard - 34/565/5
Hunter Henry - 45/579/4 (2017)
Vance McDonald - 50/610/4
David Njoku - 56/639/4
Hockenson - Hasn't played an NFL snap

I like Hooper as much as any late round TE I guess. Of the players you have listed I would take all of them prior to Hooper accept for Hockenson. In mocks when I'm waiting on TE's I've been double tapping in the late rounds with Jordan Reed and Jimmy Graham, I don't mind doing that unless like you said I reach for Kelce early.

[yuja]

What's everyone thinking on Austin Hooper this season as a late round TE? All the mocks I'm doing, if I can't get Kelce fairly early I'm ending up with Hooper in round 13 or 14. I know ATL has a ton of dome games this season, I believe like 13? He's gotten progressively better each season. Falcons increased their O-Line talent, and have a better coordinator this seasons.

This would be for a half PPR 10 team league, that I have been mocking for which I have the 7th pick at.

2016 - 19/271/3
2017 - 49/526/3
2018 - 71/660/4

For reference guys being ranked ahead of him and last season's stats -

OJ Howard - 34/565/5
Hunter Henry - 45/579/4 (2017)
Vance McDonald - 50/610/4
David Njoku - 56/639/4
Hockenson - Hasn't played an NFL snap

I feel like the Hooper hype train starts every offseason but he's at best a 4th or 5th option on that team (julio > ridley > rb > random wr > TEs)

would take all those guys except hock in front of Hooper.

Really want some Hunter shares this year if I'm not in the right draft position to land Kelce.

[Murph0408]

if delanie walker is playing in full i'm probably taking him. i don't care how old he is. if he goes down or stinks the replacement TEs aren't much worse at this point. Unless you're getting a top guy it's all a big mix of gambling on a touchdown.