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    On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being great and 10 being cosmically bad), how bad is soy for men?

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    0, it is not bad.
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    Only reason I could see it being bad is if your body doesn't respond well to it.

    Originally Posted by AnakinWayneII View Post
    On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being great and 10 being cosmically bad), how bad is soy for men?

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    Depends on what type and the amount.
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    Originally Posted by AnakinWayneII View Post
    On a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being great and 10 being cosmically bad), how bad is soy for men?
    What gbullock32 said. The dairy industry is trying to do to soy what the liquor industry did to marijuana, what the zillion acre grain industry is trying to do to coconut oil.

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    Turns out it’s a 9 to my body. I never knew why protein bars gave me bad gas but whey protein shakes didn’t until I ate a helping of just tofu (which is soy). IT. WAS. BAD. For the sake of all humankind around me, I try to now avoid too much soy.

    Not that way for everybody, my body just doesn’t digest it well.
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    Soy actually is great for you if you can deal with the texture and flavor.
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    Originally Posted by TheUnderdog83 View Post
    Turns out it’s a 9 to my body. I never knew why protein bars gave me bad gas but whey protein shakes didn’t until I ate a helping of just tofu (which is soy). IT. WAS. BAD. For the sake of all humankind around me, I try to now avoid too much soy.

    Not that way for everybody, my body just doesn’t digest it well.
    Was more likely to be the sugar alcohols in protein bars. They do this to me too - but my regular protein powder contains some soy which concerns me not at all.

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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    0, it is not bad.


    explains everything

    excessive soy consumption will kill your test levels op
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    Originally Posted by Vampirelol View Post


    explains everything

    excessive soy consumption will kill your test levels op
    Insults might be normal in the misc, here it's off limits.

    And by the way he has made solid progress. You're not that much better looking than him, so it's odd that you would try to insult him.

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    Originally Posted by Vampirelol View Post


    explains everything

    excessive soy consumption will kill your test levels op
    That was more due to ED and bad luck on genetic disposition than soy, never really cared for the taste of soy. And nice try at the insult but I have to value your opinion first for it to bother me.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Depends on what type and the amount.
    Absolutely!!! Sensible quantities as part of a healthy balanced diet is fine.

    Excessive quantities can lead to issues for men as some compounds in soy can act like estrogen (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1480510/) but this effect only has any significance with excessive soy consumption

    maybe the better question could be asked... How much soy in a man's diet should be considered excessive consumption? not trying to label soy simply as "good" or "bad". The real question is how much is too much?

    For example water... Drinking extreme excessive quantities can be fatal but that doesn't mean water is "bad" and should be excluded from diets.

    Unfortunately the exact mechanism and significance of soy's isoflavones is not yet understood, and there is not yet a research based consensus on the question of: how much is too much?

    IMHO.. while we wait for more research we each have to make our own judgement call of what a "sensible" amount within a balanced diet, obviously avoiding excess (whatever that means). Certainly there is no body of evidence to suggest that "sensible" (whatever that is) quantities are harmful to men in any way. Of course the elephant in the room is whether existing research funding is impartial.

    Just don't go nuts over soy, the stress caused by worrying excessively about soy may be more harmful than the soy in your diet

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    Originally Posted by OldFartTom View Post
    the better question could be asked... How much soy in a man's diet should be considered excessive consumption? not trying to label soy simply as "good" or "bad". The real question is how much is too much?
    Exactly. Look at how many threads do exactly the same thing: is sugar bad? is the McDouble bad?

    The dose makes the poison. And context is important.

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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    That was more due to ED and bad luck on genetic disposition than soy, never really cared for the taste of soy. And nice try at the insult but I have to value your opinion first for it to bother me.
    frankly i'm upset that you're rocking a solid beard. I shaved for the first time in 2 weeks on Tuesday and it took me 30 seconds. only grow hair on my upper lip and chin, and what's there is thin as ****.

    I take solace in the fact that my eyebrow game is pretty solid, and that eventually i can legit grow my facial hair to be like Pai Mei:



    dunno how old your avi is but your arms are looking thicker. your fapping must be on point
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    Originally Posted by Domicron View Post
    frankly i'm upset that you're rocking a solid beard. I shaved for the first time in 2 weeks on Tuesday and it took me 30 seconds. only grow hair on my upper lip and chin, and what's there is thin as ****.

    I take solace in the fact that my eyebrow game is pretty solid, and that eventually i can legit grow my facial hair to be like Pai Mei:



    dunno how old your avi is but your arms are looking thicker. your fapping must be on point
    It's about a year old, switching to mixed grip really helped with the imbalances. Just lucked out on beard genetics, both of my brothers and I all have beards.
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