Dumb Donald, after declaring himself exonerated, gets cocky and goes after Obamacare

[NYPat]

You'll have to pass it to see what's in it. Remember?

How can you pass "it" when "it" doesn't exist?

[|ceman]

ah the internet is so much fun.

Able to get details behind that 9 second clip so easily

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pe...what-is-in-it/




Next objection?

What is the GOP health Care plan that will magically reduce costs, increase quality, and be great health Care?

[401Delta]

ah the internet is so much fun.

Able to get details behind that 9 second clip so easily

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pe...what-is-in-it/

From the link you posted...

What's True:
Nancy Pelosi did utter the words attributed to her about the passage of the Affordable Care Act.

Glad we got that cleared up.

[NYPat]

Just hyperbolic absolutes. No private organizations are mentioned in the constitution. It's a stupid argument. And if the tax cuts for the rich don't need to be funded, why is funding getting cut for the Special Olympics? You're for this cutting of federal funds I take it?

No money for Special Olympics but DeVos can waste a billion dollars on charter schools that never opened.

[davidnc67]

Commie Pat, are you considering moving to Cuba soon?

[|ceman]

From the link you posted...



Glad we got that cleared up.

"What's False
The infamous soundbite doesn't reflect the full context and meaning of her remarks."

Glad that we cleared up your lack of reading comprehension.

So do you know what the GOP plan is or are you just having a giggle? I swear on me mum.

[IAMBEE]

you want to see the economy on fire? return that money to people's disposable income.

This, if Obamacare was repealed the economy would really explode. My insurance costs doubled thanks to Obamacare, my deductible went up 12x. The same happened to most Americans, I'd love to have Trump the Liberal Destroyer pointing this out in 2020 debates, he'll chit all over the Democrats.

[NitrogenWidget]

Why oh why would Trump focus on this now? Cutting special olympics funding, eliminating pre-existing conditions, adult children no longer on parent's health insurance, cuts in SNAP and Medicaid.

Quite the budget he's put out there.

SAD

cutting special Olympics funding?
Then how do you still afford internet?

[NYPat]

Commie Pat, are you considering moving to Cuba soon?

I'm honored that one of your 56 posts per year was directed at me.

[Trapstar4.4]

im glad that yall are fine with moving forward into 2020 with repeal and no replace. we dont need to even debate it. lets just move forward and let the chips fall where they may. the votes will decide

[|ceman]

This, if Obamacare was repealed the economy would really explode. My insurance costs doubled thanks to Obamacare, my deductible went up 12x. The same happened to most Americans, I'd love to have Trump the Liberal Destroyer pointing this out in 2020 debates, he'll chit all over the Democrats.

and replace it with what exactly? What's the better plan?

[NYPat]

im glad that yall are fine with moving forward into 2020 with repeal and no replace. we dont need to even debate it. lets just move forward and let the chips fall where they may. the votes will decide

Yep. Can't wait to see all the Reps claiming that they're not trying to take away people's health insurance in 2020 just like they did last November.

[JaxBrah]

gotta lol at CNN and liberals constantly taking on losing causes. vast majority of americans are against illegal immigration and sanctuary cities and most americans despise obamacare.

Trump gonna cruze in 2020

[|ceman]

gotta lol at CNN and liberals constantly taking on losing causes. vast majority of americans are against illegal immigration and sanctuary cities and most americans despise obamacare.

Trump gonna cruze in 2020

yet ironically, the majority of americans support the affordable care act.

what does that tell you?

[NYPat]

yet ironically, the majority of americans support the affordable care act.

what does that tell you?

Isn't it weird that this forum is the minority that hates Obamacare while the rest of the country doesn't want to lose it, and their elected Reps and Senators know it (especially in red states)?

[JoshSP1985]

Had no idea the Special Olympics are funded by tax dollars. Thats retarded.

you having a giggle mate?

[z4v4]

ITT people not understanding that were all using chitty high deductible plans because they are still more cost effective per year than good coverage plans because of the rate hike post Obamacare.

My current coverage is the worst option my company offers in that for a family plan I pay $350/month for a $3000 deductible, after which it's an 80/20 split. Even if I max out my deductible its $7,200 per year.

My next plan up is $900/month with an 80/20 split on care. Assuming the same amount of medical visits (spending $3000 in care youd incur charges of $600) my net cost is $11,400 annually. It's more cost efficient for me to use **** healthcare and just eat the big costs than to actually use healthcare.

If I have to take these gigantic deductible plans where my insurance company might save me $50/doctor visit because I get "plan rates" then why the fuk should I even have to pay for insurance at all? Oh yeah since we have this sweet ACA, I get fined if I dont have insurance.

If anyone doesn't see how the whole healthcare situation in the US is a joke they're out of their mind. Never mind the people who abuse the ER which also inflate the costs of healthcare.

Bro, I'm 'Merican, too, and much older than you, so I'm well-aware of the healthcare situation. The only differences is I don't have an employer paying 50+% of my premiums and your plans are cheap coz you young.

[zinkhan99]

Just when Pelosi announces they are going to focus on healthcare since Mueller report is finished this NPC creates threads on healthcare. LMAO


It's funny how on the Dem side it's not constituents shaping the legislations and narrative, but the party shaping their constituents to be good NPCs.

[Cleveland33]

Just hyperbolic absolutes. No private organizations are mentioned in the constitution. It's a stupid argument. And if the tax cuts for the rich don't need to be funded, why is funding getting cut for the Special Olympics? You're for this cutting of federal funds I take it?

I used to volunteer with the Special Olympics for years.

I am for cutting their funding - I had no idea they were getting any.

[kevutut]

How triggered are you? Why are you so sad and pathetic?

you’re a piece of garbage

[kevutut]

Someone hasn’t been paying attention to the news..

fuk you dumb ass

[IAMBEE]

and replace it with what exactly? What's the better plan?

For me personally I'd be fine with taking us back to a pre-obamacare system. I've had health insurance all my life so preexisting conditions isn't a concern for me, theres no way to have cheap insurance when people can get sick or be sick then buy insurance. Its the old buy car insurance after you wreck the car and get the accident paid for, it simply can't work. I'd almost be for a chit medicare for people with major preexisting conditions, then that way after they holler about being treated like chit all the rest of the socialist *******s will give up on medicare for all.

[IAMBEE]

yet ironically, the majority of americans support the affordable care act.

what does that tell you?

I saw a news story yesterday that had a poll and the results were "a majority of Americans supported fixing the Affordable Care Act as opposed to completely replacing the US health care system." It kind of makes you wonder how they're asking the questions.

The affordable care act has done little to nothing for the average American, honestly the only benefit I see to me is the removal of caps on how much an insurance company can have to spend on you. While that sounds good I can easily take care of that if the ACA was repealed, I'd just buy coverage with a higher cap limit.

To you supporters of the ACA are you even aware what its done to older Americans? The new bar system thats put in place where health insurance rates are based off of Age, people that are in their 60's have to pay absolutely unaffordable rates.

[StoliFun]

For me personally I'd be fine with taking us back to a pre-obamacare system. I've had health insurance all my life so preexisting conditions isn't a concern for me, theres no way to have cheap insurance when people can get sick or be sick then buy insurance. Its the old buy car insurance after you wreck the car and get the accident paid for, it simply can't work. I'd almost be for a chit medicare for people with major preexisting conditions, then that way after they holler about being treated like chit all the rest of the socialist *******s will give up on medicare for all.

How old are you?

[ZenBowman]

Quite a dumb move, each party now competing in who can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[chaunce54]

Bro, I'm 'Merican, too, and much older than you, so I'm well-aware of the healthcare situation. The only differences is I don't have an employer paying 50+% of my premiums and your plans are cheap coz you young.

But you've claimed to be rich and retired early, so why should the rest of us subsidize your healthcare?

[BFast55]

Good. BO-care is a massive failure by every metric that it was sold on.

[JoshSP1985]

Quite a dumb move, each party now competing in who can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Maybe he's actually trying to MAGA and not just trying to win elections?

[z4v4]

But you've claimed to be rich and retired early, so why should the rest of us subsidize your healthcare?

Sometimes I have no idea whose post you guys read when you respond to mine. Why do you think you're subsidizing my healthcare? This should be good.

[|ceman]

Good. BO-care is a massive failure by every metric that it was sold on.

Health care inflation was quite bad before the ACA was passed. Since then it's slowed down substantially.