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    Why do users on this site promote broscience?

    The science on muscle growth is pretty clear.

    You need to

    a) Work your muscles in the gym

    and

    b) be in a positive nitrogen balance.

    That's it. You don't need to be in caloric surplus, you don't need to eat oatmeal, you don't need to drink a gallon of milk... You simply need to work your damn muscles and be in a positive nitrogen balance so protein synthesis can be achieved.

    In order to achieve that positive nitrogen balance, about 1-1.5 grams of protein per bodyweight in pounds should suffice (along with an otherwise healthy diet that does not involve you starving ... which is definitely possible even on a 250-500 caloric deficit).

    Yet I see users on this site consistently promote the bro-science ideas of it not being possible to build muscle without eating at a surplus? Why???

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    Damn it, you got me. All those years of study and practical application in the field was a lie. I wish i had seen a post like this sooner. Thank you, my mind has been totally changed.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    Damn it, you got me. All those years of study and practical application in the field was a lie. I wish i had seen a post like this sooner. Thank you, my mind has been totally changed.
    Ah yes, some idiot on the internet knows better than actual scientists. Of course!

    You know what I suspect? I suspect that some of you people got so fat, bloated, and hideous on a GOMAD diet that you just cant' cope with the fact that it wasn't necessary, so instead of accepting reality, you decide to reject the truth and wish the same ill faith on other people that you yourself have suffered.

    So pathetic.

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    Originally Posted by clutcher45 View Post
    Ah yes, some idiot on the internet knows better than actual scientists. Of course!

    You know what I suspect? I suspect that some of you people got so fat, bloated, and hideous on a GOMAD diet that you just cant' cope with the fact that it wasn't necessary, so instead of accepting reality, you decide to reject the truth and wish the same ill faith on other people that you yourself have suffered.

    So pathetic.
    Post a pic of your amazing physique then. Should be easy to prove how shredded you are vs my fat bloatlord physique.
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    Originally Posted by clutcher45 View Post
    Ah yes, some idiot on the internet knows better than actual scientists. Of course!

    You know what I suspect? I suspect that some of you people got so fat, bloated, and hideous on a GOMAD diet that you just cant' cope with the fact that it wasn't necessary, so instead of accepting reality, you decide to reject the truth and wish the same ill faith on other people that you yourself have suffered.

    So pathetic.
    Fighting bro-science with armchair psychology. GG

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    Originally Posted by clutcher45 View Post
    The science on muscle growth is pretty clear.

    You need to

    a) Work your muscles in the gym

    and

    b) be in a positive nitrogen balance.

    That's it. You don't need to be in caloric surplus, you don't need to eat oatmeal, you don't need to drink a gallon of milk... You simply need to work your damn muscles and be in a positive nitrogen balance so protein synthesis can be achieved.
    None of the regular posters here state you need to eat oatmeal or drink milk (let alone a gallon of milk).

    In order to achieve that positive nitrogen balance, about 1-1.5 grams of protein per bodyweight in pounds should suffice (along with an otherwise healthy diet that does not involve you starving ... which is definitely possible even on a 250-500 caloric deficit).
    The more recent literature suggests 0.7g per pound is plenty. Many can be successful with a bit less. If anything you are the one stating broscience with your 1-1.5 number.

    Yet I see users on this site consistently promote the bro-science ideas of it not being possible to build muscle without eating at a surplus? Why???
    That was a popular belief here.... 10 years ago. In the more recent years the regular posters here are not stating this.

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    Can't do GOMAD if you are lactose intolerant nomsayin

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