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    Do people get caught with fake Diplomas?

    Wont do it, but my University Diploma is literally just a piece of paper with a Gold Stamp

    You can easily fake that
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    Yes they can and sometimes do get caught.

    Sometimes there are charges pressed such as fraud, etc.
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    Former CEO of Goldman Sachs never went to school, lied about it and only revealed the fraud after he retired I think.
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    Yes, the way they get caught is when they can’t perform basic functions in their role

    It’s often too costly to actually verify credentials in preemployment checks but if the person is totally incompetent hr will go looking
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    was thinking this. how do they verify? all it is is a certificate that can be easily faked
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    Originally Posted by Comply_or_Die View Post
    was thinking this. how do they verify? all it is is a certificate that can be easily faked
    You can just call the educational institution and check, whether you've graduated degree X or not is a matter of public record.

    As the other guy notes though, usually nobody will bother unless the person is obviously incompetent. In most jurisdictions, it's hard to fire someone for incompetence because you have to prove they are incompetent, and prove what they can't do is something actually listed on the job description, then there's a process, blah blah. But if the bits of paper they gave you were fake, you can bin them without trouble.

    Moral of the story: if you fake a degree, fake a degree for something you can actually do. Be a competent fraud, not an incompetent fraud.
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    Originally Posted by Kabamaro View Post
    Wont do it, but my University Diploma is literally just a piece of paper with a Gold Stamp

    You can easily fake that
    I don’t remember ever having an employer actually want to view my diploma. But employers do require certified transcripts mailed directly from the university. I know my current employer required that. I’m pretty my past jobs did, too. It doesn’t cost them anything to require the transcript. I had to pay and release it. My employer just asked for it. A transcript directly from a university is a lot harder to fake, I suppose.
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    Originally Posted by PattyU View Post
    I don’t remember ever having an employer actually want to view my diploma. But employers do require certified transcripts mailed directly from the university. I know my current employer required that. I’m pretty my past jobs did, too. It doesn’t cost them anything to require the transcript. I had to pay and release it. My employer just asked for it. A transcript directly from a university is a lot harder to fake, I suppose.
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    First, I think any business who was hiring for a position and required a degree would check. If they don't, then that's not the only one in the business that is incompetent.

    I could imagine it would be a civil matter involving fraud if you took pay for something you couldn't do. If there is licensing involved then it could get legal, such as frauding you passed the BAR and act as a lawyer when you haven't.
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    Maybe it was easy to fake before the internet but now employers can do a quick search (HR will have programs for this) and they can verify your student records
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    Originally Posted by TacticalTaco View Post
    Former CEO of Goldman Sachs never went to school, lied about it and only revealed the fraud after he retired I think.
    Who? Are you talking about Blankfein?
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    There was a thread a while back and some miscers admitted to saying they had degrees they didn't earn and managed to get great jobs from their lie. I recall one guy made up having an engineering degree. In most cases, the worst a company can do if they find out is fire you.

    It just goes to show that often getting a degree doesn't imply you learned anything relevant to your career, it's just a piece of paper that signals to employers your ability to get through years of schooling, you can conform to certain standards, and you have a minimum level of intelligence. There are a surprisingly large number of jobs where you need to know barely anything from your education and you can easily learn and pick up what's required of you after a short time on the job.
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    Originally Posted by KyleAaron View Post
    You can just call the educational institution and check, whether you've graduated degree X or not is a matter of public record.

    As the other guy notes though, usually nobody will bother unless the person is obviously incompetent. In most jurisdictions, it's hard to fire someone for incompetence because you have to prove they are incompetent, and prove what they can't do is something actually listed on the job description, then there's a process, blah blah. But if the bits of paper they gave you were fake, you can bin them without trouble.

    Moral of the story: if you fake a degree, fake a degree for something you can actually do. Be a competent fraud, not an incompetent fraud.
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    Originally Posted by r32gojirra View Post
    Yes, the way they get caught is when they can’t perform basic functions in their role

    It’s often too costly to actually verify credentials in preemployment checks but if the person is totally incompetent hr will go looking
    What bull**** is this? It costs $900 to do a preemployment background check and we do it for every employee at every level every time.
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    lol my brother has most certs but never went for a cs degree and tried to fake it. dumbass got caught and called out. he didnt actually doctor anything just lied but still
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    I had an uncle allegedly do this for over 30 years lmao.

    Didn't get caught until he got divorced and was forced to prove his ability to earn an income (so his ex wife wouldn't have to pay alimony).... No degree existed lmao.

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    My roommate works for salesforce makes six figures doing programming or something didn’t finish degree but knows his stuff aced all practical interviews. He has degree on his resume too
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    Originally Posted by Comply_or_Die View Post
    was thinking this. how do they verify? all it is is a certificate that can be easily faked
    just graduated and they give you a code/link for employment verification. It’s an online degree so employers can see it
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    What bull**** is this? It costs $900 to do a preemployment background check and we do it for every employee at every level every time.
    We do them as well, but there are automated processes for police checks. I’m talking about hiring and on boarding like 500 ict staff, we would need to raise a small army to check every one of them and it would take too long
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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    Lol this is faking a law degree though... much bigger deal than some sub 6 figure job.
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