**Official Cyberpunk 2077 Thread**

[Fred87nc]

I'm about as long in. There are a ton of decent side quests, and I've had at least one that yielded a pretty cool finisher (Delamain's quests). I also did Claire's races, which could've felt more rewarding if the AI wasn't worse than Mario Kart 64.

I'd wager CDPR had fixers issue the majority of side quests to handle the sheer volume, which works fine in a lot of ways (V is a merc after all) but it depersonalizes quests that should feel more emotionally impactful. A lot of the charm in Witcher 3's side quests was Geralt's "customer relations" with his clients and that gets lost in CP2077 - so far anyways, it doesn't seem like your relationship with fixers change.

ayy lmao, did one of those races. mario kart is more exciting. I thought I was going to smash the fat chick afterwards when we were driving back to her garage, but we just got there and that was it, she stayed in her truck. dumb sloot.

[EoR]

lol'd at the comment: "Cyberbug 20fps77p".

[Coal Man]

I've been glancing over this thread and avoiding minor spoilers

I'm extremely bummed to see the life path thing makes no difference?

Holy chit that is a major letdown. My idea was to play the game over with each path and get a fresh experience.

[EoR]

I've been glancing over this thread and avoiding minor spoilers

I'm extremely bummed to see the life path thing makes no difference?

Holy chit that is a major letdown. My idea was to play the game over with each path and get a fresh experience.

Seems a lot of aspects of this game being marketed have been misleading.

[bongowongo]

Dragon age Origins had a far better origins stories for their characters,you actually spent time in your origin story, got to know them, the world and characters you met in your origin story came back.... Cyberpunk Origin stories were completely meaningless, add nothing to the story and its obvious there was a ton of cut content.


There are some story beats in there thats supposed to be impactful but none of them are earned in any way because the game rushes everything .... The moment to moment main narrative is really really good so far, but everything feels really rushed and disjointed if that makes sense, like there should have been more threads.


I thought a short campaign would have been decent, but actually feels more like they rushed it/cut stuff.

[KingSWRV]

Witcher 3 was an accident

Accidental masterstroke

It’s becoming more evident in hindsight

That not quite tripleA, quirky b-level charm from W3 played a bigger role in the DNA of the studio than we might have thought.

That is who they really are, a bunch of amateurs who struck accidental gold in a perfect storm that included the backdrop of the old world mythology to mask their deficiencies

[VTheKing]

There are some story beats in there thats supposed to be impactful but none of them are earned in any way because the game rushes everything .... The moment to moment main narrative is really really good so far, but everything feels really rushed and disjointed if that makes sense, like there should have been more threads.


I thought a short campaign would have been decent, but actually feels more like they rushed it/cut stuff.

The disjointed thing just happened to me... major midgame spoilers (tag within a tag):

Spoiler!

Was in the middle of the quest where you're setting up the Arasaka parade raid with Takamura... then get a call from Judy to drag my ass to her place and see that...

Spoiler!

Evelyn has committed suicide. Googling the related quest, it seems like you can get the call randomly even if you're in the middle of another main quest.

Witcher 3 was an accident

Accidental masterstroke

It’s becoming more evident in hindsight

That not quite tripleA, quirky b-level charm from W3 played a bigger role in the DNA of the studio than we might have thought.

That is who they really are, a bunch of amateurs who struck accidental gold in a perfect storm that included the backdrop of the old world mythology to mask their deficiencies

Nah, Witcher 2 put them on the map. And they also delivered with Thronebreaker (on a much smaller scale obviously). As developers, they were more than capable of delivering on the original vision of the game and you see what made Witcher 3 good in CP2077 often still. This is 100% bad management/executive decisions - wanting to release the game on as many platforms as possible at the same time, chucking ungodly amounts of money in marketing and advertising the game as a mayhem simulator. The delays were almost certainly a byproduct of the first decision - wanting to cash in as much as possible on both current and next gen console sales, but unable to come to terms with the massive difference between the PC and PS4/Xbox One versions.

[blissful88]

I've been glancing over this thread and avoiding minor spoilers

I'm extremely bummed to see the life path thing makes no difference?

Holy chit that is a major letdown. My idea was to play the game over with each path and get a fresh experience.

If you go into the game expecting a single player campaign experience in an open world, it makes sense

The crafting, skill set choices, looting, relationship building, none of it really matters to the narrative



Just pick up better guns off dead bodies and pewpew to victory

But honestly the gunplay is really fuking bad lol especially with a measly 50-60fps

[BraneyGumble]

[blissful88]

[witcher3fan83]

I agree man. I heard lots of positive things about the side quests so I've been smashing them out, but it just seems like the same mission on repeat. Run into building guns blazing or stealthy, collect item or kill guy, receive text message. The end.

Again, I'm enjoying the main story, but everything else has fallen flat.

Do you read all the messages and shards within the side quests? In this respect it’s identical to Witcher 3 in that the actions you perform aren’t too varied but if you look around and read things you find a story that widens and colours the world you’re in.

[witcher3fan83]

I've been glancing over this thread and avoiding minor spoilers

I'm extremely bummed to see the life path thing makes no difference?

Holy chit that is a major letdown. My idea was to play the game over with each path and get a fresh experience.

Yes that is annoying.

I think changing your skill tree should offer a new experience though

I’m currently playing as a male with high intelligence and technical stats with the odd bit of attention given to reflexes. In most of my missions so far I tend to perform a few hacks to make life easier then use high tech guns to clear the room.

In my next play though I plan to be a woman with stealth, strength, and close combat skills to live out my ghost in the shell dreams.

I feel that I’m missing out on a lot of vertical environment in my current form.

Btw, I expect a lot of people to warm to this as time goes on. First impressions reveal its shortcomings but as you get further in the writing and characters shine brighter.

[Awarw90]

Do you read all the messages and shards within the side quests? In this respect it’s identical to Witcher 3 in that the actions you perform aren’t too varied but if you look around and read things you find a story that widens and colours the world you’re in.

I did. Although in Witcher 3 I felt like the story was told in side quests with a much higher level of interaction and relationship building, or was just more interesting in general (some monster hunts were really cool).

In Cyberpunk all I'm getting out of the side quests are a waypoint, followed by a text or a phone call, blast through a small building, then that's that for 90% of them. Nothing is really making me care about them. Might be just personal preference though but yeah... I'm 25 hours in at the moment so I'll see if it picks up in quality. Enjoying the main story very much though.

[witcher3fan83]

I did. Although in Witcher 3 I felt like the story was told in side quests with a much higher level of interaction and relationship building, or was just more interesting in general (some monster hunts were really cool).

In Cyberpunk all I'm getting out of the side quests are a waypoint, followed by a text or a phone call, blast through a small building, then that's that for 90% of them. Nothing is really making me care about them. Might be just personal preference though but yeah... I'm 25 hours in at the moment so I'll see if it picks up in quality. Enjoying the main story very much though.

Fair enough. So far I’ve played two or three side quests that blew me away.

I think this is an extremely flawed game - I don’t want to come across as running damage control. CDPR dropped the ball hard. But there’s more to love than hate imo and I think some of the internet screeching online (not here) is downright ridiculous.

[Awarw90]

I've been glancing over this thread and avoiding minor spoilers

I'm extremely bummed to see the life path thing makes no difference?

Holy chit that is a major letdown. My idea was to play the game over with each path and get a fresh experience.

That was the first thing that really got me looking at this game more critically.

Origin story was about 15 minutes. All that's happened in the next 24 hours of my gameplay regarding that choice is maybe 10 dialogue options that came up utilizing Nomad.

Rip replayablity, makes basically no difference and is hardly mentioned. Lazy af and kinda p***ed me off.

[Awarw90]

Fair enough. So far I’ve played two or three side quests that blew me away.

I think this is an extremely flawed game - I don’t want to come across as running damage control. CDPR dropped the ball hard. But there’s more to love than hate imo and I think some of the internet screeching online (not here) is downright ridiculous.

Agreed, I'm still really enjoying the campaign but I'm heavily disappointed at the rest of it, the marketing seems so deceptive now. Not a bad game at all, but it's not finished. I think it needed another year. Like another posted said above, a lot of it feels rushed or cut.

[PaulAllen1995]

Agreed, I'm still really enjoying the campaign but I'm heavily disappointed at the rest of it, the marketing seems so deceptive now. Not a bad game at all, but it's not finished. I think it needed another year. Like another posted said above, a lot of it feels rushed or cut.

It's like with movies we have to wait for the Directors Cut

[bongowongo]

OMFG ..... It finally rained!!!!! just started raining randomly in the city and holy chit ....... It was glorious, the rtx reflections and just the overall vibe of the game was absolutely insane. Gave me another next gen feel with the visuals. If you thought the game looked incredible during day/night without rain, wait till once the showers hit




































Here's another random pic

[bongowongo]

Honestly, the best way to experience this game is the slowest way possible.



Take your time, walk around the city .... You legit have no idea what you're gonna find ..... I was driving around the city heading to a mission location and saw a question mark pop up on the minimap .... Decided to go explore it, and came across a super cool moment

Spoiler!

Ended up coming up across this dead with a gun beside it and when I picked it up, the gun starts to talk to you lmao, and you get this small, but really well done sequence with dialogue between you and the gun and you get to choose whether you want the gun to become lethal or non-lethal, but the point it was such a good small and funny moment as well

then I came across another question mark

Spoiler!

Saw a question mark near some diner, went in and decided to speak to the barkeep and the moment I spoke to him, a cutscene plays out and some thugs enter the bar trying to rob the place .... luckily I had put points into the bod skill so I was able to intimidate them and not get into a fight

These were just random moments I've had by not looking at the map to go to places and just riding along and coming to these places naturally thanks to the minimap, sure once you wanna complete everything you can probably look at the map and see these place ..... But honestly this is the first game where I never look at the map and instead just come across places/situations organically - Of course the map is a fukkin clutterfest so I'd rather not look at it .... The only thing I do is just use my journal to go do quests / gigs/ side gigs.



30 hours in and I've only JUST started to do the first couple missions of Act 2.



I honestly dont think this game will top Witcher 3 for me, but what it is right now is a damn fine game, but severely undercooked, overpromised, falsely marketed and with an entry only for those with high-endish pc's.

[Brozef]

Never thought this title would crash and burn this bad.

lol @ teaching yourself to ignore the glaring flaws in an attempt to enjoy the game

[Coal Man]

If you go into the game expecting a single player campaign experience in an open world, it makes sense

The crafting, skill set choices, looting, relationship building, none of it really matters to the narrative



Just pick up better guns off dead bodies and pewpew to victory

But honestly the gunplay is really fuking bad lol especially with a measly 50-60fps

Yes that is annoying.

I think changing your skill tree should offer a new experience though

I’m currently playing as a male with high intelligence and technical stats with the odd bit of attention given to reflexes. In most of my missions so far I tend to perform a few hacks to make life easier then use high tech guns to clear the room.

In my next play though I plan to be a woman with stealth, strength, and close combat skills to live out my ghost in the shell dreams.

I feel that I’m missing out on a lot of vertical environment in my current form.

Btw, I expect a lot of people to warm to this as time goes on. First impressions reveal its shortcomings but as you get further in the writing and characters shine brighter.

That was the first thing that really got me looking at this game more critically.

Origin story was about 15 minutes. All that's happened in the next 24 hours of my gameplay regarding that choice is maybe 10 dialogue options that came up utilizing Nomad.

Rip replayablity, makes basically no difference and is hardly mentioned. Lazy af and kinda p***ed me off.

Fuk brahs. Still haven't started it yet. Bummed out to see each path only has a 15 min story lulz. Will definitely take the advice if I care for a second playthrough and do a different build. I think the ones I sunk my points into were Reflexes, Technical Ability and a point in body. Don't know what the fuk any of those really do it but I figured I'd be a badass shooter guy.

[ohiostate124]

Been checking out the reddit page to see all of the bugs. Pretty bad when a WoW expansion has a better launch than you. I’m sure the game will be fine but it was never going to live up to the hype.

Lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkga...r_enough_away/

[Coal Man]

The threads on reddit are lulzy as fuk

[R3L3NTL3SS]

OMFG ..... It finally rained!!!!!

I mean, I know you don’t live in America to be familiar with American weather, but it doesn’t rain much in California. I know one of your posts was asking if it was ever going to rain.

[iifymbro]

this definitely gets me hyped af for GTA 6, RDR2 graphics + multiple dev years of progress beyond that, hnnng

this kinda dev can't compete with rockstar, too much money and global talent


The good news is that cdpr are gunna rake in huge money from this game and I'd imagine their main focus for the next couple years will be cyberpunk repair/expansion.

[bongowongo]

Not gonna lie guys, this game is super disappointing for me at least. Been hyped for it for ages and yeah it's like a 6-7/10. 25 hours into it atm.

My complaints:

- AI is probably the dumbest I've ever seen, literal zombies all in sync. No reaction to anything. Try punching a civvie, they'll all just crouch in sync and run away, it's weird af.
- Traffic can't navigate a basic obstacle, cars change and spawn in when you spin the camera around in lots of areas (e.g. blue car behind me, rotate camera, now its a grey truck, etc.).
- Origin story means nothing beyond the 15 min intro and some dialogue options later.
- Zero customization beyond character creator. No hair cuts, tattoos, car customization, etc.
- Weird teleportation police you can shake off by crouching against a wall. (Kill a random dude by themselves in the middle of nowhere, police teleport in somehow instantly with no cars or anything even though no one's seen you commit a crime).
- Nothing to actually do in the city or interact with.
- Low performance considering the high end hardware people are running it on.

Many more issues but all of this has completely ruined the immersion and the point of the open world for me as it all seems broken and pointless. I'm enjoying the story and combat, and the game is pretty when you aren't noticing obvious flaws/bugs. But yeah, it's really quite empty and shallow in terms of what they marketed Night City as.

In regards to people defending this, patches can't fix all the main issues any time soon.

My opinion only though, glad some people are really enjoying it, I'm just noticing that they haven't delivered on some serious selling points. I'll still play through it but my excitement has dropped significantly.

Ones in bold can be easily fixed in with patches. Just a matter of when.


As for the rest, I dont know but I'm sure we'll end up having those things in a future patch because witcher 3 had em, and most likely none of these things made into the final release game because they were too busy trying to get this stable lol.

[bongowongo]

I mean, I know you don’t live in America to be familiar with American weather, but it doesn’t rain much in California. I know one of your posts was asking if it was ever going to rain.

Lol yeah, I know .... But in GTA V which is based in California it rains and even in most open open world / rpg games they still have some form of a weather system ..... Wouldnt put it past CDPR to not have a dynamic weather system in the game due to the amount of cut content / rushed work they did to try get it out.

[MiscMathematician]

imagine preordering this for nov release on ps4, it actually releasing then, and taking a week off of work to play it

[BraneyGumble]

howling

[iifymbro]