Controlled Labs White Warped..new preworkout

[stan47islav]

Looks like CL is coming out with another preworkout

https://www.stack3d.com/2019/03/cont...te-warped.html

Seems pretty simple and straight forward
Candy apple seems like a great flavor to try.

White rapids always made me nasouesous when I tried using it
So this one look worth a go...

[Madevilz]

CL is going backward.
If you want to use something from CL, get Flash before they are all gone.

[powercage]

Pick up White Flash and try it while you can. It wont last much longer.

[stan47islav]

I miss spoke, white flash was the one that made me nauseous. So its going to be a replacement?
That disheartening, while Flash didn't work for me the formula seemed good.

That is kind of going backwards, but I guess if it doesn't sell , its doesn't sell.....

Pick up White Flash and try it while you can. It wont last much longer.

[Synapsin]

Unfortunately White Flash did not sell well at all, so we stuck with the core concepts of white flash + added a new ingredient to replace vaso6 for NO effects.

CL is going backward.
If you want to use something from CL, get Flash before they are all gone.

Nah. Products like orange brainwash, blue sugar, etc. are remaining the same.

[DASBUNKER]

Flash was great, sux it's going away... pretty disappointing profile for warped :/

[Madevilz]

Nah. Products like orange brainwash, blue sugar, etc. are remaining the same.

Just saying its a big downgrade compared to Flash and even White Rapids. I dont get the new formula, its underdosed in everything except tyrosine, huperzine and caffeine. Cant even double scoop it because caffeine would then be too high. No hate, I love CL but my expectation was much higher.

[Iluvmud]

Uhhhhh whut.... why?? White flash although not the best tasting thing did work great.

[Madevilz]

Uhhhhh whut.... why?? White flash although not the best tasting thing did work great.

They should just have made a Flash light (pun intended)without Vaso6, Lions Mane and a lowered dose of Betaine. That would have taken care of the taste, lowered the cost while still being just as effective imo.

[DASBUNKER]

They should just have made a Flash light (pun intended)without Vaso6, Lions Mane and a lowered dose of Betaine. That would have taken care of the taste, lowered the cost while still being just as effective imo.

Probably not even those changes would have been enough for an acceptable profit margin, hence the less than stellar formula on warped.

[fahdalsheheata]

Unfortunately White Flash did not sell well at all, so we stuck with the core concepts of white flash + added a new ingredient to replace vaso6 for NO effects

Does that have to do with thermolife and Vaso6 case?

[eatyourspinach]

Should/could have went with pomegranate extract for N.O. as opposed to Spectra

[Synapsin]

Should/could have went with pomegranate extract for N.O. as opposed to Spectra

We already have that in Green Might and to the comments above, I understand your concerns guys but it really just didn't sell outside of the forum group.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

we know many liked the "formula" for white flash, but very few people actually purchased it.

We went with a great core formula on White Warped that will produce great effects. it also is much cheaper per serving (almost half the price than flash at $29.99 for 30 servings) and way better tasting than previous formulas. We will have logging opportunities and you will see that this is a great & effective product as well as an awesome value for the money.

candy apple sour
gummy worm
strawberry jelly bean

[smokinal]

we know many liked the "formula" for white flash, but very few people actually purchased it.

We went with a great core formula on White Warped that will produce great effects. it also is much cheaper per serving (almost half the price than flash at $29.99 for 30 servings) and way better tasting than previous formulas. We will have logging opportunities and you will see that this is a great & effective product as well as an awesome value for the money.

candy apple sour
gummy worm
strawberry jelly bean

I'll be looking for that Strawberry Jelly Bean!

[Farley1324]

Pick up White Flash and try it while you can. It wont last much longer.

And maybe put a couple or few in the freezer...

[superhuman67]

Should/could have went with pomegranate extract for N.O. as opposed to Spectra

So the Spectra ingredients are in there to work with the other pump ingredients, good to know cause
I was trying to figure what that was for so now I know

[Madevilz]

So the Spectra ingredients are in there to work with the other pump ingredients, good to know cause
I was trying to figure what that was for so now I know

not really, Ive used Hydra-Charge in massive amount around the workout and didn't notice any additional "pumps".

The only real pump ingredient in Warped is Citrulline, and at 3g, it wont even do much. Definitely need to add bulk Citrulline to around 6g.

[powercage]

not really, Ive used Hydra-Charge in massive amount around the workout and didn't notice any additional "pumps".

The only real pump ingredient in Warped is Citrulline, and at 3g, it wont even do much. Definitely need to add bulk Citrulline to around 6g.

bulk citrulline around 6g is equivalent to 12g of cit mal

3-4g of citrulline is a clinical dose (it is what was used in all the 6-8g cit mal studies) , you may prefer more though personally.

Hydracharge also doesn't have additional pump ingredients in it.

[wonderboyWR]

I'm excited! all you negative nancys should try it first!

[Synapsin]

For those curious on spectra:

Spectra™ is an extract comprised of fruits, vegetables and herbs that can inhibit free radical production, optimize cellular metabolic activity, and increase nitric oxide levels within the human body.

Spectra™ has human research showing that it can increase oxygen use, free radial production while minimizing ROS. This suggests an improved efficiency of cellular function within the human body. Spectra™ usage led to an increase of nitric oxide by 64% (1).

1. Nemzer, Fink, and Fink (2014). New insights on effects of a dietary supplement on oxidative and nitrosative stress in humans. Journal of Food Science and Nutrition.

[LoudyRowdy]

I'm excited! all you negative nancys should try it first!

Settle down

[Madevilz]

bulk citrulline around 6g is equivalent to 12g of cit mal

3-4g of citrulline is a clinical dose (it is what was used in all the 6-8g cit mal studies) , you may prefer more though personally.

Hydracharge also doesn't have additional pump ingredients in it.

3g of citrulline would equal to 4.5g of 2:1 CM which is not the clinical dose.

I referred to Hydra Charge because the Spectra blend and its ability to increase NO was mentionned.

[powercage]

3g of citrulline would equal to 4.5g of 2:1 CM which is not the clinical dose.

I referred to Hydra Charge because the Spectra blend and its ability to increase NO was mentionned.

If that were true then you are suggesting only 9g+ of cit mal would work. Or even more if 1:1. Studies are generally on 1:1. And they have shown effectiveness as low as 6g.

Thats the exact reason 3-4g citrulline has been recommended on here for years

I know there are specific citrulline studies that dose higher, but even the increased time to exhaustion, ED, cardiovascular health studies have used 3g straight cit to effect.

[wonderboyWR]

Settle down

ew razorbacks sick.

[ProWrestleFan]

This thread has reminded me... I need to get back on the CL train!

[Anthony21]

I would definitely want to give this one a shot. CL pres have never let me down in the past.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I'll be looking for that Strawberry Jelly Bean!

its an awesome one, but gummy worm is going to be the most popular, i can just feel it

want to log it? pm me your info

For those curious on spectra:

Spectra™ is an extract comprised of fruits, vegetables and herbs that can inhibit free radical production, optimize cellular metabolic activity, and increase nitric oxide levels within the human body.

Spectra™ has human research showing that it can increase oxygen use, free radial production while minimizing ROS. This suggests an improved efficiency of cellular function within the human body. Spectra™ usage led to an increase of nitric oxide by 64% (1).

1. Nemzer, Fink, and Fink (2014). New insights on effects of a dietary supplement on oxidative and nitrosative stress in humans. Journal of Food Science and Nutrition.

yup, great ingredient for pre and overall health

This thread has reminded me... I need to get back on the CL train!

absolutely. want to log? pm me your info

I would definitely want to give this one a shot. CL pres have never let me down in the past.

want to log? pm me your info

[CONTROLLED LABS]

anyone else interested in logging?

[blokpost]

Not bad, but white flash on paper looks better.
White rapids was pretty good at two scoops.
Soon finishing a log, so would be interested in logging.