Creating Some Havoc with Epi - The advanced user guide

[DejaBlue55]

^^^

[tek88]

krz
do you say liv 52 over AI's cycle support?
or in addition.
way different compounds.

but im glad to hear someone else rep lecithin.

[Steve0178]

Awesome job man, very informative and well written! I like the cycle suggestions also. PP/Epi seems like a great bulker for sure.

[BlakeKrier]

K.

For the life of me, I can't figure out what the diphenhydramine hydrochloride is for...

I don't mean to be a pest but what is the Benadryl for?

The only thing I can think of here is to help with sleep...

[Boxer757]

I don't mean to be a pest but what is the Benadryl for?

The only thing I can think of here is to help with sleep...

Pretty sure it clears the receptors... not 100% on that though

[Krzna]

Pretty sure it clears the receptors... not 100% on that though

not in this case bud... i think i put it there to knock u off into the sack...



i think i know what carcinogen is talking about and just got with one of my chemists... i think epi would make a nice injectible.

[BIG F@CE]

not in this case bud... i think i put it there to knock u off into the sack...



i think i know what carcinogen is talking about and just got with one of my chemists... i think epi would make a nice injectible.

subbed!

if this would be possible do you think it would make it into tha hands of Chemical Research sites for purchase? :drOOL:

[Boxer757]

not in this case bud... i think i put it there to knock u off into the sack...

Gotcha, my mistake!

[drommon]

Hey Krzna,

If someone is on HRT(testosterone) would a cycle you mentioned above be of any benefit?

Thanks!

Drommon

[Krzna]

Hey Krzna,

If someone is on HRT(testosterone) would a cycle you mentioned above be of any benefit?

Thanks!

Drommon

i would'nt recommend it... show me ur HR therapy cycle dosage and I can give u a better response.

thx

[SF_Muscle_]

Why do you recommend Nolva over other AE such as Toremifene or I3C?

Nolva is toxic, especially in higher dosages such as the first couple weeks at 40 mg.

If I want retinopathy/liver toxicity, I'll take some Nolva.

[10TonBrick]

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if this would be possible do you think it would make it into tha hands of Chemical Research sites for purchase? :drOOL:

X986986!

i would be nice if some research companies would start making injectable PHs

[bigbridrol]

nice writeup krz!

[drommon]

i would'nt recommend it... show me ur HR therapy cycle dosage and I can give u a better response.

thx

It is 200mg of testosterone cypionate injected every 2 weeks. I take an OTC aromatase inhibiter.

Drommon

[MystikalSoul]

krzna i decided to go with the

Week 1 - 40mg Epistane
Week 2 - 40mg Epistane
Week 3 - 30mg Epistane Prostanozol 125mg
Week 4 - 30mg Epistane Prostanozol 150mg
Week 5 - Prostanozol 200mg
Week 6- Prostanozol 200mg

now do i start my nolva week 4 when im done with epi or wait till week 6 when done with the prosta?

and when is the best time to take it? i work out some times in the am and sometimes 1 pm, should i take 1 epi/50mg prosta in the am and take another epi/50mg prosta 1 hour before work out? or just take 1 epi/50mg prosta before work out and the rest after the gym trought out the day? im confused on the best way to dose it?

thxxx

thx

[Boxer757]

krzna i decided to go with the

Week 1 - 40mg Epistane
Week 2 - 40mg Epistane
Week 3 - 30mg Epistane Prostanozol 125mg
Week 4 - 30mg Epistane Prostanozol 150mg
Week 5 - Prostanozol 200mg
Week 6- Prostanozol 200mg

now do i start my nolva week 4 when im done with epi or wait till week 6 when done with the prosta?

thx

You going to log that? Looks like a great cutter/lean mass stack...

[neoborn]

krzna i decided to go with the

Week 1 - 40mg Epistane
Week 2 - 40mg Epistane
Week 3 - 30mg Epistane Prostanozol 125mg
Week 4 - 30mg Epistane Prostanozol 150mg
Week 5 - Prostanozol 200mg
Week 6- Prostanozol 200mg

now do i start my nolva week 4 when im done with epi or wait till week 6 when done with the prosta?

and when is the best time to take it? i work out some times in the am and sometimes 1 pm, should i take 1 epi/50mg prosta in the am and take another epi/50mg prosta 1 hour before work out? or just take 1 epi/50mg prosta before work out and the rest after the gym trought out the day? im confused on the best way to dose it?

thxxx

thx

I believe Dr.D stated that with these doses it would be something like:

Morning: 10mg
Pre Workout:20mg
Post Workout: 10mg

[Phat Daddy]

On non-w/o days, just try to split up the doses as evenly as possible (every 6hrs in this case with 40mg)

[Hardkkore]

Great thread KRZNA!

[VaughnTrue]

anyone have any thoughts on a Havoc+EST Propodrol cycle? used for cutting/recomp

[leonidas300]

On non-w/o days, just try to split up the doses as evenly as possible (every 6hrs in this case with 40mg)

How is that disclaimer coming along Phat Daddy.

[jsweetness]

How is that disclaimer coming along Phat Daddy.

hows YOUR thread in the MISC. section? in no way am i defending him, rather im defending krzna's thread.

[leonidas300]

Krzna is good people and I apologize to him for the thread invasion. I will only make that one post.

[Sciproject]

Hey KRZNA nice thead! I am going to do the SD/Havac stack you mentioned would it be benifical if i ran Furazadrol with it? I have two bottles and i have no idea what to do with it. Also is Liver LOnder from thermolife anygood? thx

[Krzna]

guys i m outta the supplement loop, i have no clue what these new names fuzadrol ... and what not, sounds nice and fancy though , just post up the chemical name when u ask a question please.

[Sciproject]

5a-etioallocholan[2,3-c]furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol ether 50mg

I was looking at running at along with your SD Epi stacK at 200mg for 6 weeks

[misterchristian]

I know I am not an advanced user, and I in no means intend on running one of these advanced cycles. I am just trying to become as knowledgeble as I can on the various elements of running a basic epistane cycle at a beginners dose. I had thought I settled on Nolvadex for PCT, but I am reading some responses on this thread pertaining to its toxicity on the liver. I guess I am confused because I did some research on the drug, and it is normally prescribed for its label use in a duration of 5 years. Typically PCT seems to be for 4 weeks. How hazardous is using Nolvadex really for 4 weeks of PCT?

[Ripped Force138]

just out of curiousity, SD at 30mg a day man that is beast isnt it? I remember I took that **** 20,30,30,40 and that was the nastiest side effect full cycle Ive ever had! granted I gained 25lbs and my bench went up 70lbs in a month! But wow that **** was harsh!

[Ripped Force138]

BTW what is the gains for Pheraplex like compared to Superdrol? I always here PP is wet and SD is dry, but I have no idea what wet gains feel like. I have done SD before and gained 25lbs so what does PP do differently? Describe I mean please