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    Is 1200 to 1500 calories ok for an obese Male?

    I am 240 pounds at 5 feet 7 inches tall. Trust me it's not muscle lol. I am 27. Would 1200 to 1500 calories a day be ok to start. I will get lots of protein.
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    Originally Posted by tapetek8 View Post
    I am 240 pounds at 5 feet 7 inches tall. Trust me it's not muscle lol. I am 27. Would 1200 to 1500 calories a day be ok to start. I will get lots of protein.
    VLCD (very low calorie diets) are commonly prescribed by doctors for obese people. They are not intended as long term diets. Their goal is to lose a lot of weight in a short period of time in order to make the person more healthy. The reason these are prescribed over traditional diets is that obese people are much less likely to be able to stick to a proper diet for a year(+) in order to lose a significant amount of weight. Imagine trying to lose 1lb a week for 25 weeks vs. losing 25 lbs in say 6 weeks while you can actually see results every week?

    In other words, this shouldn't be a long term diet. But yes, at your size and age, I think it would be very appropriate for a short period of time. May want to have a refeed day one or twice a week where you eat closer to maintenance. You should also consider doing some form of strength training. At your size, you can actually build muscle while in a caloric deficit (granted, maybe not that high of a deficit).
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    Originally Posted by tapetek8 View Post
    I am 240 pounds at 5 feet 7 inches tall. Trust me it's not muscle lol. I am 27. Would 1200 to 1500 calories a day be ok to start. I will get lots of protein.
    No, that is too low. Most likely what will happen is that you will feel like crap and won't be able stick with it. You need to make a full lifestyle change in order to lose the weight and keep it off. Read this to get started:

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...hp?t=165843261
    My fat loss log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=173521121
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    Originally Posted by JSim83 View Post
    No, that is too low. Most likely what will happen is that you will feel like crap and won't be able stick with it. You need to make a full lifestyle change in order to lose the weight and keep it off. Read this to get started:

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...hp?t=165843261
    I would say the OP is much more likely to fail with the traditional simple calorie cut. The OP is not a body builder and is not in great physical shape at 5'7" 240. Trying to go from a clearly very unhealthy diet to a healthy small deficit and maintaining this for a long period of time is unrealistic. Can some people do it? Of course. But if the OP just wants to shed some weight quickly, a VLCD would be fine for a short period of time to get started. Once the OP sees 15-20lbs drop off very quickly, the motivation may be there to start a real program. Trying to lose 1-2lbs per week at his size will only be discouraging if he is only down 5lb or less after a month.

    There is a ton of research on this:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11036337

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3442323/

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15711602

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5368342/
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    Yes. with that much fat its fine however bumping up a bit to around 1700 may be more tolerable. Cut on as few calories as you can comfortably get away with. The problem with super low cals is adherence and rebound once you've lost the weight. Now a few days here and there super low is usually doable, I do it often when cutting.

    Your weekly calories are what will determine the fatloss. Your accuracy in counting and tracking is a big factor as 1,200 may end up being much higher when it's all said and done.
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    It's true that a calorie deficit should cause weight loss (after all, we gain weight from a calorie surplus over time). But base a calorie deficit off your BMR (basal metabolic rate), which is your body's minimum daily energy needs in order to function:

    66 + (6.23 * wt in lbs) + (12.7 * ht in inches) - (6.8 * age in years) = BMR for a male

    So for instance, I am 5'6" (66 in), 160 lbs, 36 yr old male. My BMR is 66 + (6.23 * 160) + (12.7 * 66) - (6.8 * 36) = 1656. If I create a deficit below 1656, I should lose weight over time, so maybe 20% or 30% reduction from my BMR. But there are also a lot of things we do that can either accelerate or halt weight loss. Carbs and sugar, for example, KILL weight loss because the insulin response triggers storage instead of fat burning. I found a lot of interesting insight through the 1 Week Diet here: https healthreview dot blog
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    Originally Posted by avengingangel01 View Post
    It's true that a calorie deficit should cause weight loss (after all, we gain weight from a calorie surplus over time). But base a calorie deficit off your BMR (basal metabolic rate), which is your body's minimum daily energy needs in order to function:

    66 + (6.23 * wt in lbs) + (12.7 * ht in inches) - (6.8 * age in years) = BMR for a male

    So for instance, I am 5'6" (66 in), 160 lbs, 36 yr old male. My BMR is 66 + (6.23 * 160) + (12.7 * 66) - (6.8 * 36) = 1656. If I create a deficit below 1656, I should lose weight over time, so maybe 20% or 30% reduction from my BMR. But there are also a lot of things we do that can either accelerate or halt weight loss. Carbs and sugar, for example, KILL weight loss because the insulin response triggers storage instead of fat burning. I found a lot of interesting insight through the 1 Week Diet here: https healthreview dot blog
    You don't base your cutting calories off of your BMR like that you spamming nitwit.
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    Originally Posted by avengingangel01 View Post
    It's true that a calorie deficit should cause weight loss (after all, we gain weight from a calorie surplus over time). But base a calorie deficit off your BMR (basal metabolic rate), which is your body's minimum daily energy needs in order to function:

    66 + (6.23 * wt in lbs) + (12.7 * ht in inches) - (6.8 * age in years) = BMR for a male

    So for instance, I am 5'6" (66 in), 160 lbs, 36 yr old male. My BMR is 66 + (6.23 * 160) + (12.7 * 66) - (6.8 * 36) = 1656. If I create a deficit below 1656, I should lose weight over time, so maybe 20% or 30% reduction from my BMR. But there are also a lot of things we do that can either accelerate or halt weight loss. Carbs and sugar, for example, KILL weight loss because the insulin response triggers storage instead of fat burning. I found a lot of interesting insight through the 1 Week Diet here: https healthreview dot blog
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    1750 calories will put you into a 20% deficit, and you will see weekly losses that you can maintain. Anything less will make you mental, thinking about food, dreaming about food etc.
    At least start with 1750 and adjust those numbers after a month.
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