Johnny Manziel is going to declare for the NFL (supposedly)

**Mac_xX** · 12-12-2013, 08:24 PM

https://twitter.com/darrenheitner/st...65834703519744

"2 sources tell @insidetheleague that Johnny Manziel will sign w/Houston, TX agency Select Sports Group."

So where's he going in the draft?

**unclejeff** · 12-12-2013, 08:29 PM

I feel sorry for any team that wastes a high draft pick on him. Nothing that makes him special in college will translate to the NFL. Serious. Different type of athlete, but I see a repeat of Tim Tebow. AMAZING college player....useless in the pro's.

**Team Punishment** · 12-12-2013, 08:29 PM

Dudes too fragile.

**HumptyBrah** · 12-12-2013, 08:30 PM

He'll have plenty of opportunity to get his shine on during his Mr. Irrelevant parade

**Backus21** · 12-12-2013, 08:31 PM

Lol

**neighborr** · 12-12-2013, 08:32 PM

lol NFL defenses salivating over a chance to clobber this little guy

**HumptyBrah** · 12-12-2013, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by neighborr

lol NFL defenses salivating over a chance to clobber this little guy

Can't wait to see him standing back there staring down the barrel of the 49ers/Seahawks/Panthers/Chiefs front 7s

**brb_ballin** · 12-12-2013, 08:38 PM

surprised he didn't try to get Jay Z to rep him

**IawI** · 12-12-2013, 08:38 PM

Depends on his combine. If he goes into the combine and measures in a 5'10 with a noodle arm then it may drop him out of the first, but if Tebow can go in the first then I wouldn't put it past some team to waste a first round pick on him. I honestly don't care what he does in the offseason, I wouldn't spend a draft pick on him, and I probably wouldn't even bring him in as an UDFA. Just not the type of person I want on my football team and his game doesn't translate to the NFL at all if he insists on playing QB.

**neighborr** · 12-12-2013, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by brb_ballin

surprised he didn't try to get Jay Z to rep him

jay-z isn't licensed to be an NFL agent

**BrianDobson** · 12-12-2013, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by unclejeff

I feel sorry for any team that wastes a high draft pick on him. Nothing that makes him special in college will translate to the NFL. Serious. Different type of athlete, but I see a repeat of Tim Tebow. AMAZING college player....useless in the pro's.

you described pretty much every QB that was a Heisman winner.

**FAH_Q** · 12-12-2013, 08:55 PM

I'm thinking he will be a bust. He can't sit in the pocket and make throws downfield consistently.

**unclejeff** · 12-12-2013, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by BrianDobson

you described pretty much every QB that was a Heisman winner.

I disagree. Cam Newton has speed, size, and is strong as ****...all of the traits has made him productive in the NFL. RG3 is an incredible athlete with loads of potential. He is in a disaster situation right now, but when healthy he did make an impact in the pros. I would def. not declare him a bust yet. Sam Bradford is average, but he did not win the Heisman because of gimmicky crap like Johnny Football.

If discussing Troy Smith and Tim Tebow...yes I do agree with you.

**Hercegovac8** · 12-12-2013, 09:28 PM

He just doesn't have the tools to be a starting nfl qb

First of all he's too small, and lacks the strong arm that other small qbs have tha allows them to succeed in the league despite their size.

He's not as fast as u might think, he admited to running a high 4.5 40, something much bigger men like Cam Newton and Andrew Luck run.

All year he's been chucking the ball towards Evans who has bailed him out plenty of times, and last year Swopes was bailing him out all the time. The guy can't read defenses.

**BaronOBeefDerp** · 12-12-2013, 09:41 PM

Coming to an NFL bench near you

**daisbest** · 12-12-2013, 09:44 PM

for the nfl 2014 draft the minnesota vikings select...

**blaugranacule** · 12-12-2013, 09:48 PM

The Jaguars should get him

**wickedman** · 12-12-2013, 10:03 PM

I could honestly see him being good in the NFL, but at the same time I would not use a top 10ish type pick on him, super risky. Even if you ignore NFL questions, dude gets beat up.

**BaronOBeefDerp** · 12-12-2013, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by daisbest

for the nfl 2014 draft the minnesota vikings select...

pls go

**Backus21** · 12-12-2013, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by unclejeff

I feel sorry for any team that wastes a high draft pick on him. Nothing that makes him special in college will translate to the NFL. Serious. Different type of athlete, but I see a repeat of Tim Tebow. AMAZING college player....useless in the pro's.

Cleveland will grab him with one of their 2 firsts. Calling it now lol

**niknguyen** · 12-12-2013, 10:52 PM

Inb4 kyletx

He ended the season on such a good note! Lmaoooo. Lsu and mizzou d ate this kid alive. Imagine what will happen in the nfl. I guess that's what happens when evans gets shut down.

**BrawnySwoleman** · 12-12-2013, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by niknguyen

Inb4 kyletx

This.

He doesn't have good pocket presence or a strong arm. And with his build, he's not gonna be able to run in the NFL without being as injury prone as Vick. It seems like some people are sold on him because he "put up amazing numbers against SEC defenses." Will be interesting to see where he gets drafted.

**Dojokoto** · 12-12-2013, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by FAH_Q

I'm thinking he will be a bust. He can't sit in the pocket and make throws downfield consistently.

I don't even think he has the expectations to be a bust, they have him going like 4th round at least. I can't wait to see him get wrecked.

**HTownOlajuwon** · 12-12-2013, 11:36 PM

Redskins should draft him. Trade Cousins and have RG3 and Johnny duke it out for the starting job.

**kyleTX** · 12-13-2013, 12:27 AM

J Goat

The saga continues

**kyleTX** · 12-13-2013, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by IawI

Depends on his combine. If he goes into the combine and measures in a 5'10 with a noodle arm then it may drop him out of the first, but if Tebow can go in the first then I wouldn't put it past some team to waste a first round pick on him. I honestly don't care what he does in the offseason, I wouldn't spend a draft pick on him, and I probably wouldn't even bring him in as an UDFA. Just not the type of person I want on my football team and his game doesn't translate to the NFL at all if he insists on playing QB.

With your track record, this just locked JF into the NFL HOF

**IawI** · 12-13-2013, 01:09 AM

Originally Posted by kyleTX

With your track record, this just locked JF into the NFL HOF

Feels like just yesterday you were defending Schaub when I was preaching his mediocrity.

**cowmooolester93** · 12-13-2013, 01:14 AM

I still don't see the big deal with the guy. I've seen him play and he doesn't make the greatest decisions, smaller QB, no rocket for arm, **** attitude. Wouldntdraft/10

**IawI** · 12-13-2013, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by cowmooolester93

I still don't see the big deal with the guy. I've seen him play and he doesn't make the greatest decisions, smaller QB, no rocket for arm, **** attitude. Wouldntdraft/10

Same situation with Tebow. Anyone with half a brain knew he'd fail, but there was the group of morons who thought otherwise.

**tyqb4** · 12-13-2013, 02:00 AM

dude could be a retarded and ballsier version of russell wilson. kind of hope the cardinals or bucs take him. would be fun to see him to go a team with some talent and nothing to lose. people get way too excited over physical traits, if your physical skill set doesn't hold back your mental skill set then your physical skills are simply good enough. if every other pass is knocked down and picks are thrown because of a lack of arm strength despite the throw being a good decision then you're gonna have a bad time...but if that's not the case then who gives a fuk if you can't throw like cam newton.

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