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    Lightbulb Liberals and Conservatives Are Both Susceptible to Fake News

    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...erent-reasons/

    Are Liberals and Conservatives Equally Susceptible to Fake News?

    The answer is yes. The researchers found that people on both sides of the traditional left-right divide are equally likely to believe political news that is consistent with their ideology, and to disbelieve news that is inconsistent with their side. For instance, liberals judged the anti-Trump story as being much more legitimate than the pro-Trump story, with conservatives showing the opposite judgment.

    The researchers conclude that "people infer news legitimacy in a way that appears motivated by their own ideological positioning."

    This finding is also consistent with other research suggesting that there are symmetries among both liberals and conservatives when it comes to motivated reasoning. For instance, liberals and conservatives are similarly motivated to avoid exposure to one another's opinions, and are similarly motivated to deny scientific findings that are inconsistent with their ideology.

    People who score high in need for cognition tend to build information rich social networks, but of course this can be problematic when your rich social networks are still operating in an echo chamber.
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    Wouldn't it be great if there was still journalistic integrity, and nobody would have to worry about falling for fake news?
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    cant believe they needed researchers to confirm this, that everybody knew was true.

    libs share fake news that prove their points, conservatives share right wing news that helps their point.

    Why research when you can just go look at facebook
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    Originally Posted by HockeyBacon18 View Post
    libs share fake news that prove their points, conservatives share right wing news that helps their point.
    Your wording is interesting here.
    "Liberals share fake news..."
    "Conservative share right wing news..."

    Do you mean to say that:
    1) Conservatives do not share fake news? Or
    2) All right wing news are fake?
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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    Wouldn't it be great if there was still journalistic integrity, and nobody would have to worry about falling for fake news?
    Any product of humans is susceptible to human nature, including its biological and psychological biases. "Fake news" has been around for a long time. It didn't start when Trump made the phrase fashionable.
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    Originally Posted by HockeyBacon18 View Post
    cant believe they needed researchers to confirm this, that everybody knew was true.

    libs share fake news that prove their points, conservatives share right wing news that helps their point.

    Why research when you can just go look at facebook
    except I see far more lefty fake news parroted than righty fake news.
    Almost as if those on the right tend to wait and see if there is some proof or not before going, "guise! guise! the sky is falling!"

    however looking at this board the left either knows it's BS or doesn't care and just wants to flood the interwebs with as much BS as possible so when people do try to search for info all they see is pages of BS.
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    Around 2011 I wondered how CNN HLN could play the same 10 forensic files episodes all day and not care about ratings. Fast forward to 2016-18 when they would talk non-stop about russia-gate that almost no one believed happened proving it wasn't about ratings.

    I won't be surprised if the intelligence agencies are giving up on conventional msm and that's why we see increased censorship of the internet because that's their new main outlet of news.
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    I feel like this didn't need to be studied. Humans are susceptible to being manipulated.

    The problem is that the media is incredibly left bias and so most of the fake news comes from one perspective.
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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    Wouldn't it be great if there was still journalistic integrity, and nobody would have to worry about falling for fake news?
    Fake news aside...

    ...even if you eliminated all fake news items, you would still be left with presentation bias. You can have all legit background information, but completely alter how the person receives the information based on how you present it.
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    You mean people want to believe what they want to believe?


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    Fake news covering fake research about fake products presented with fake bias. It's all BS.

    Even when it's 100% legit people will insist to their grave that the sun is the moon anyways.


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    I like how Conservatives in this thread, and generally on this forum, are so sure that they haven't been manipulated by fake news. And how they're not stuck in their own echo chambers.
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    A related point:

    Dunning-kruger Effect
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
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    Originally Posted by TranceNRG View Post
    Your wording is interesting here.
    "Liberals share fake news..."
    "Conservative share right wing news..."

    Do you mean to say that:
    1) Conservatives do not share fake news? Or
    2) All right wing news are fake?
    was half asleep when i posted that oops. meant to say right wingers share fake news that helps their point. Most people dont even read the articles anymore, they literally read sensationalist headlines think "I KNEW I WAS RIGHT" and hit share on FB.

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    except I see far more lefty fake news parroted than righty fake news.
    Almost as if those on the right tend to wait and see if there is some proof or not before going, "guise! guise! the sky is falling!"

    however looking at this board the left either knows it's BS or doesn't care and just wants to flood the interwebs with as much BS as possible so when people do try to search for info all they see is pages of BS.
    i also think thats partially because using social media (where youd see fake news being spread) is used more by left wingers than right wingers.
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    Fake news aside...

    ...even if you eliminated all fake news items, you would still be left with presentation bias. You can have all legit background information, but completely alter how the person receives the information based on how you present it.
    you mean when a minority attacks or kills someone they leave their race out of it but if a white person looks at a minority sideways the word "white" is in the headline in one of the first 3 words followed by the race of the minority "victim".

    it's disgusting.

    nb4 making a 100% accurate observation about the media = "racist".
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    Originally Posted by Seatard View Post
    Fake news covering fake research about fake products presented with fake bias. It's all BS.

    Even when it's 100% legit people will insist to their grave that the sun is the moon anyways.


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    Originally Posted by TranceNRG View Post
    I like how Conservatives in this thread, and generally on this forum, are so sure that they haven't been manipulated by fake news. And how they're not stuck in their own echo chambers.
    by all means please post examples of conservative's embracing fakes news with a unknown source, sources close, anonymous sources with absolutely zero proof shown.
    Maybe I just automatically dismiss these threads but willing to bet they aren't nearly as numerous as all the "orange man bad" threads started by the left.
    Nor do I see a whole lot of righties spamming FB with fake news.
    Almost always the left then the right proves it wrong.

    the only reason there are any items on the front page started by conservatives is because tammie is at bandcamp and cant start his usual 10 threads a day.
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    Originally Posted by NitrogenWidget View Post
    except I see far more lefty fake news parroted than righty fake news.
    Almost as if those on the right tend to wait and see if there is some proof or not before going, "guise! guise! the sky is falling!"
    Lol, no. It's just you believe more fake righty news to be real and you believe more left real news to be fake. Don't worry, Trump has the same condition.
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    Originally Posted by NitrogenWidget View Post
    by all means please post examples of conservative's embracing fakes news with a unknown source, sources close, anonymous sources with absolutely zero proof shown.
    Maybe I just automatically dismiss these threads but willing to bet they aren't nearly as numerous as all the "orange man bad" threads started by the left.
    Nor do I see a whole lot of righties spamming FB with fake news.
    Almost always the left then the right proves it wrong.

    the only reason there are any items on the front page started by conservatives is because tammie is at bandcamp and cant start his usual 10 threads a day.
    This. Just go look in the catholic highschool thread and see all the resident libs doing mental gymnastics to defend 'their side'.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Lol, no. It's just you believe more fake righty news to be real and you believe more left real news to be fake. Don't worry, Trump has the same condition.
    Will rep if you post any misc thread of conservatives defending fake news.
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    Originally Posted by NitrogenWidget View Post
    except I see far more lefty fake news parroted than righty fake news.
    Almost as if those on the right tend to wait and see if there is some proof or not before going, "guise! guise! the sky is falling!"

    however looking at this board the left either knows it's BS or doesn't care and just wants to flood the interwebs with as much BS as possible so when people do try to search for info all they see is pages of BS.
    Lol. This post pretty much sums up my opinion of this section.
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    lol!
    Good times.
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    The only defense the right has is truth and reality. Also other then alex jones conspiracy bull**** can liberals post examples of right wing fake news?
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    Originally Posted by GiantMonkey View Post
    How do they define fake news?
    We saw Buzzfeed News post an article that Trump ordered Cohen to lie to Congress about negotiations with Russia to build a Moscow Trump Tower and the Special Council released a statement that this article is not accurate. However this article was picked up and shared, and other articles written about it using it as a source.

    Did OP's article use that as an example of sharing fake news?
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    Originally Posted by Techriding101 View Post
    Will rep if you post any misc thread of conservatives defending fake news.
    Read the thread about "58,000 illegals voting in Texas" and all the conclusions that were jumped to.
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    Originally Posted by GiantMonkey View Post
    We saw Buzzfeed News post an article that Trump ordered Cohen to lie to Congress about negotiations with Russia to build a Moscow Trump Tower and the Special Council released a statement that this article is not accurate. However this article was picked up and shared, and other articles written about it using it as a source.

    Did OP's article use that as an example of sharing fake news?
    Its just like the media said "Michael cohen was in Prague" they all claimed it was trumps lawyer yet it was a completely different guy.
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    lets compare a righty posting an image on facebook to 99% of the mainstream media posting something fake that results in death threats to a 16yr old

    definitely the same thing!
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    Originally Posted by Seatard View Post
    Read the thread about "58,000 illegals voting in Texas" and all the conclusions that were jumped to.
    Yeah, lol. These guys defend the fake news that comes out of Trump's mouth daily. Witch hunt being the most popular.
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