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    Jesus Christ, this crap has been going on forever.
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    Originally Posted by faxanadu View Post
    Going back to the Romans and further ... the key to a large and stable empire has always been a large, strong, and capable military.
    If you know your roman history, you would also know that rome fell because of invaders and massive migrations into it.
    What good is the strongest military in the world if it can't even stop illegal migration from the southern border?

    And yes trump is talking bout a wall even though i don't see it getting build, but it's really ridiculous to spend 600 billion a year on the military while leaving your border defenses wide open.
    I guess congress never played RISK.

    Originally Posted by LinuxJon View Post
    Wars between countries like Russia and the US aren't fought directly. They are fought as proxy wars. Places like Syria are a good example. There, yes, it does matter if we have better aircraft.

    Also, Russia isn't the only thread. Countries like Iran are extremely provocative and do have advanced tech.
    Show me where the USA needed to use the f-22 in an air to air dog fight like in topgun.
    Even the old F-16 would suffice against countries like iran.

    and yes they do fight each other indirectly, but in that case again you don't need top of the line latest aircrafts etc.
    The syrian war was just giving ''rebels'' aka isis weapons. No f-22 was used that day. They're specifically made for air combat.
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    Originally Posted by faxanadu View Post
    Just because you throw a bunch of money at something doesn't mean it produces quality results. Israel isn't even on that list and they have the best military defence system in the world. I've heard their cyber warfare abilities are top notch too.
    Yea, lol id definitely wonder the efficacy of the $$ spent

    But at the same time, its more than the next 7 combined

    What do you think 'murica is weak in?

    I would guess that theyre trying to get the best scientists and chit as well, and have quite a bit of leverage

    I know there a lot of nuances to that
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    Originally Posted by Wwchamp View Post
    It doesn't matter who strikes first its called mutually assured destruction for a reason. You really think we dont have a few nuclear subs chilling in the blacksea w a couple missiles aimed st petersburg and moscow?
    america recently updated their position on the use of nuclear weapons in their 'nuclear posture review'. whereas before both countries always maintained 'mutually assured destruction', america now feels it can win a nuclear war and is behaving as such. it is complete insanity but the corporate media is totally silent and the public is asleep.
    america is literally sleepwalking into nuclear destruction thanks to demonic neo-cons.
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    Originally Posted by darkninja67 View Post
    Jesus Christ, this crap has been going on forever.
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    Calm down kiddies, grampa Misc will keep you safe.
    MAD no longer applies. america changed their nuclear posture.
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    Originally Posted by MitchGreene View Post
    america recently updated their position on the use of nuclear weapons in their 'nuclear posture review'. whereas before both countries always maintained 'mutually assured destruction', america now feels it can win a nuclear war and is behaving as such. it is complete insanity but the corporate media is totally silent and the public is asleep.
    america is literally sleepwalking into nuclear destruction thanks to demonic neo-cons.
    Please explain to me how believing we can win a nuclear war changes anything, unless we decide to push the button first?
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    this is just political warfare..nothing will come of it. Russia is holding its ground and we are trying to maintain our power.
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    Originally Posted by LinuxJon View Post
    Please explain to me how believing we can win a nuclear war changes anything, unless we decide to push the button first?
    if you feel you can knock someone out your approach to dealing with them will be very different than if you feel you'll both be knocked out.
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    Why do people so badly want to believe that Russia is this unstoppable force that will come and save western society when its actually in direct competition with us ?

    The country is anything but admirable, state sanctioned murders + the oligarchs who control EVERY INDUSTRY, regular Russian citizens will never be able to prosper there, look at its gross human rights violations while they encroach on and try to claim sovereign states as their own? its disgusting stone age treatment of its LGBTI community speaks for itself

    Russia is a paper tiger and Putin a straw man dictator, they will never become a world power and they know it, macho strong soviet shows of force is the only card they can continue to and will play
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    trumpers love putin
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    been reading the russian comments on other videos...lots of them dont like it...They would rather live a more prosperous life without corruption than to have a super strong military..I have loads of friends in russia and they tell me its almost impossible to start a business there without the mafia taking a large chunk of your profits...everything is corrupt. Normal jobs like lawyer, banker, doctor, dont make that much money thats why so many people choose to move abroad.
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    Lol,at anyone that believes or supports pseudo-Putin (the real one was assassinated in 2013 or 2014).

    Russia and Iran got beat down in Syria by America, England, Saudi Arabia and Israel. They are just mad.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post


    I don't think the US administration seems to understand that Russia now has first strike capability and tour is over. We are really challenging them on this? Fuking lol. Chit is gonna heat up now boyos. One false detection, and they will have about 6 mins to decide whether it's time to retaliate or not. RIP

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    Bother sides have enough bio and nuclear ordinance + delivery systems to sterilize earth of all complex biological life in 24 hours.... EVERYTHING you see is posturing and "legacy cementing". Neither side is dumb enough to hit the "launch" button first.
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    Doesn't take a genius to know that if any missles is launched everyone dies. Both sides will have no choice but to unload all nukes, you guys can sit here and talk sht if you want but you will be dead in the end if anything happens.

    These guys are not idiots and they know what will happen if anyone launches a nuke, if putin is ready to commit suicide he can go ahead and launch a nuke at the USA. Cause he is not going to survive either way and neither are we.

    Here's the thing guys when you have a enough nukes to destroy earth you cannot lose, the only way they can defeat the usa if they make the usa destroy itself.
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    Originally Posted by backinthegymbro View Post
    If you know your roman history, you would also know that rome fell because of invaders and massive migrations into it.
    What good is the strongest military in the world if it can't even stop illegal migration from the southern border?
    No. Rome fell because it economically and socially imploded from within. They massively debased their currency, tried implementing price controls, spent ridiculous amounts of money subsidising grain (keeping the poor content), had chitty leaders, and massive corruption. Most of the border regions were heavily romanized and people generally appreciated Rome's stabilizing presence. As Rome started to severely economically and socially implode the leadership made a habit of throwing these border tribes/nations/allies under the bus. The Visigoths in the 300s AD asked Rome for help vs the Huns, Rome initially agreed, fkd them over, so then they decided to invade and ended up killing emperor Valens. Most every Roman problem i can think of resulted from chitty and corrupt leadership.
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    Lol if you don't think we have the technology to blow the nukes out of the sky before it even makes it out of their country. The U.S. has satellite imagery of every countries nuclear plants and always has an eye on them if any are launched
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    I don't say this to undermine Russia as a military threat, but if they dropped a nuke on us first, Donald would be raping them until their most important cities were parking lots within the hour. They are still nowhere near the military power they were prior to the fall of the Soviet Union in the early 90's, and ours has only grown stronger. That's not to mention the fact that every relevant military power on the planet would instantly side with us if they struck first, do it would basically be Russia vs. the entire world the second they made that move, even if a bunch of cuckolded current western European leaders dislike Donald personally.

    So beyond retalitory nukes, the U.S. Navy would be swarming them ASAP, followed by the Airforce, Marines, Army, and our allies. Putin is just waving his cawk at this point, he knows full well he'd need all of Europe, at a minimum, taking Russia's side to pick that fight.
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    Are we toast in BC then when Seattle takes one to the face?

    Some could argue this could all be a good thing given the current state of society.
    I think the aliens better get there arses in gear and shut this chit down .
    The aliens did do a test years ago around the Spokane area, where they temporarily disabled all the nukes on a base .
    Hopefully they have enough ships to disable every nations at once before things get out of hand
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    Originally Posted by propreffered7 View Post
    Yea, lol id definitely wonder the efficacy of the $$ spent

    But at the same time, its more than the next 7 combined

    What do you think 'murica is weak in?

    I would guess that theyre trying to get the best scientists and chit as well, and have quite a bit of leverage

    I know there a lot of nuances to that
    I assume you're asking from a defensive point of view. From my perspective we seem pretty weak from an information technology / cyber security stand point. I suspect with good coordination and enough resources an enemy nation state could seriously cripple our economy through various cyber attacks. Most people ... even everyone's go-to computer nerd friend/family member are unbelievably ignorant when it comes to technology. If you could get enough of the right people together they could really fk some chit up ... and there just simply isn't enough people of similar calibre that could fix things in a reasonable amount of time before things really start to suck for the masses.

    Our use of technology as a society has massive benefits ... but the amount of specialization amongst people to keep it functioning is a big achilles heel IMO.

    In many ways that weakness is a results of our absolutely retarded education system and cultural breakdown. AKA implosion from within.
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    Originally Posted by MajorTendonitis View Post
    I think the aliens better get there arses in gear and shut this chit down .
    The aliens did do a test years ago around the Spokane area, when they disabled all the nukes on a base .
    Hopefully they have enough ships to disable every nations at once before things get out of hand
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    Originally Posted by momo5 View Post
    Doesn't take a genius to know that if any missles is launched everyone dies. Both sides will have no choice but to unload all nukes, you guys can sit here and talk sht if you want but you will be dead in the end if anything happens.

    These guys are not idiots and they know what will happen if anyone launches a nuke, if putin is ready to commit suicide he can go ahead and launch a nuke at the USA. Cause he is not going to survive either way and neither are we.

    Here's the thing guys when you have a enough nukes to destroy earth you cannot lose, the only way they can defeat the usa if they make the usa destroy itself.
    I mean..... /thread

    Russia waiting and hoping something like socialism in the U.S. (different society that doesn't know how to mentality deal with socialism) slowly drains the usa is the better option. I don't like trump but I might be voting for him depending.
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    The U.S. has satellite imagery of every countries nuclear plants and always has an eye on them if any are launched
    youre retarded, their nukes are mobile on wheels...
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    Originally Posted by pengh View Post
    I mean..... /thread

    Russia waiting and hoping socialism in the U.S. (different society that doesn't know how to mentality deal with socialism) slowly drains the usa is the better option. I don't like trump but I might be voting for him depending.
    If they're playing the long game of getting someone like Trump in office so they can then doom switch the world economy towards the end of his term while a bunch of crazies run around fist-pumping the green new deal... that's game-set-match win for socialism/communism/chaos in this country IMO.

    If that's their plan and it works ... in my despair ill applaud them for their cleverness.

    China, Russia, India, and many other nations have been stocking gold/silver like crazy and setting in motion things necessary to compete with the mighty petro-dollar. After WW2 everyone looked towards the USA because we had all the resources and gold ... China/Russia might have the same plan in mind. And if they can paint the picture that American ignorance, corruption, and apathy caused the dollar to collapse (that scenario will fk everyone else first and america last) ... that might just get most of the world to give us the middle finger and side with the east without a fight.
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    imagine spending billions of dollars to kill eachother instead of making sure human civilization advances and everyone has their basic survival needs
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