lol Putin ain't fukin around

[johnnydeep1]

Leaders of unfree, third world nations only care about war and useless issues but don't care about human or animal rights. They don't care about their own people's welfare or freedoms and don't even care if they have food to eat or not. All they seem to care about is war.

I don't respect them one bit.

[MrRipley]

This is all theatre. Putin invests his money in the U.S while his friends and relatives live in London.

[wincel]

Doesn't matter if you say they have "first strike" capability. To what end? Our nukes are distributed around the world via multiple launch sites, not to mention all of them that can be deployed via submarines and aircraft carriers. Russia isn't some terrorist state that is okay with seeing an end-times type event.

They have countermeasures, and it may eventually become rational for them to take the risk. A surgical first strike might lead to immediate and unconditional surrender.


BTW here is another example where if we only had 6 mins to respond, the world might have plunged into a nuclear war:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov

[rybo]

Hopefully they hit close to me. Would rather die from the blast rather than the 1% I live to find out what radiation sickness is like

[LinuxJon]

They have countermeasures, and it may eventually become rational for them to take the risk. A surgical first strike might lead to immediate and unconditional surrender.


BTW here is another example where if we only had 6 mins to respond, the world might have plunged into a nuclear war:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov

On what basis would it be rational?

There is no scenario where trying to conquer the US makes any sense. There are 400m guns here. No country could ever successfully pull off a land invasion. That eliminates any idea that they could win a war and come here and take the spoils. They have no reason to do this out of self preservation, as the US isn't even remotely involved in anything that interferes with their homeland.

[MrRipley]

Nasha volodya

Vovochka

[gluon]

You're a good representation of most of the U.S population. You live in pride and arrogance when it comes to the power you think your country has. Most of our citizens think the U.S is untouchable and underestimates the power of other nations. This is one of the reasons on why we have become soft and immoral.

(Proverbs 16:18) Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

lol, keep coping you irrelevant eurocuck

[johnnydeep1]

They have countermeasures, and it may eventually become rational for them to take the risk. A surgical first strike might lead to immediate and unconditional surrender.


BTW here is another example where if we only had 6 mins to respond, the world might have plunged into a nuclear war:

"Lifelong Virgin"

That's hardcore as $hit brother

[MajorTendonitis]

Do we actually have proof that he even has this capability,other than some cgi video?

[MajorTendonitis]

Hopefully they hit close to me. Would rather die from the blast rather than the 1% I live to find out what radiation sickness is like

Blind and third degree burns 60 miles from ground zero

[wincel]

On what basis would it be rational?

There is no scenario where trying to conquer the US makes any sense. There are 400m guns here. No country could ever successfully pull off a land invasion. That eliminates any idea that they could win a war and come here and take the spoils. They have no reason to do this out of self preservation, as the US isn't even remotely involved in anything that interferes with their homeland.

Nobody is trying to conquer or invade. They would be trying to avert a potential future full scale nuclear war. It can make sense to surgically strike if they have enough confidence in their countermeasures and believe that the overwhelming force of their attack would force an immediate surrender.

Russia's immediate goal is to end the threat of nuclear war from the US or (as seems to be the case with the current escalation) to minimize the casualties they suffer from a nuclear war, if inevitable. They may, eventually, conclude war to be inevitable and find it advantageous to be the first striker. That is not a situation anyone wants to be in.

[Peter Ruby]

I see chicken little is making more doom and gloom threads.

You need to get laid, homie.

[Dorich]

No. I happen to live here, and it is in my best interests to not see chit escalate. I also don't want there to be a situation where these idiots only have 6 min to respond if they detect an attack. Imagine if this kind of thing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov

happened with only 6 mins. It gets much scarier.

This is absurd.

[TommyRO]

Doesn't matter, we have Dr. Manhattan

[Casca]

You can't defend chit if they first strike you dude. All we could do is retaliate in vain or surrender. They also have missile defense systems just like we do. The difference is we have no defense against their new missiles.

We have military forces dispersed around the country and the world. First strike on what? Retaliate in vain??? I don't know how many SSBN's we have or the damage just one of them can do, but just lol at this stupid ****.

[lolXlol]

based russians and putin of peace

america has always been the world's no. 1 enemy

we must all unite to defeat these monstrous people and their empire

washington MUST fall

[dannyg1217]

This had been the case for decades. Nothing new here

[backinthegymbro]

The difference is that Russia can effectively first strike us, and we are provoking them. And the difference is their new weapons make the risks of an accidental war considerably higher, so it is extremely important that we deescalate the situation.

It doesn't matter who strikes first because nukes can still be launched after the usa would get nuked.
There's also submarines carrying nukes in the oceans.
Not to mention you don't even need to hit the usa for menkind to die. If nukes hit everywhere else in the world, the usa would still perish from the nuclear fall out.

There's no winner in a nuclear war. It's mutually assured destruction guaranteed. So whoever strikes first doesn't matter.
There's no scenario where russia would take out the usa instantly without any retaliation.

Also what makes you think a first strike would make the usa surrender instead of sent nukes back?
Wouldn't go that way. Also wonder what got you banned this time.

[propreffered7]

i dont understand how u.s. doesn't have anything russia has. or at the very least us couldn't turn around and fuk russia up even more

[yewotm8]

trumpers love putin

He's the leader that we wish Trump was.

[LinuxJon]

i dont understand how u.s. doesn't have anything russia has. or at the very least us couldn't turn around and fuk russia up even more

Unfortunately, we abide by the arms treaties we sign. Other countries do not. This is largely why Russia has any advantage over us.

Also, huge amounts of inefficiency in our bid process.

[Vexidi]

Apparently OP took a break from fapping long enough to watch the news for the first time in his life and now he's pissing his pants over a cruise missile with a 600 mile range. lmao, probably a good thing this little boy still still lives at home with daddy.

[johnnydeep1]

Nobody is trying to conquer or invade. They would be trying to avert a potential future full scale nuclear war. It can make sense to surgically strike if they have enough confidence in their countermeasures and believe that the overwhelming force of their attack would force an immediate surrender.

Russia's immediate goal is to end the threat of nuclear war from the US or (as seems to be the case with the current escalation) to minimize the casualties they suffer from a nuclear war, if inevitable. They may, eventually, conclude war to be inevitable and find it advantageous to be the first striker. That is not a situation anyone wants to be in.

Why did they ban you

[johnnydeep1]

Nobody is trying to conquer or invade. They would be trying to avert a potential future full scale nuclear war. It can make sense to surgically strike if they have enough confidence in their countermeasures and believe that the overwhelming force of their attack would force an immediate surrender.

Russia's immediate goal is to end the threat of nuclear war from the US or (as seems to be the case with the current escalation) to minimize the casualties they suffer from a nuclear war, if inevitable. They may, eventually, conclude war to be inevitable and find it advantageous to be the first striker. That is not a situation anyone wants to be in.

Why did they ban you ������

[faxanadu]

It has always been a chess game between powerful nations. Each trying to get the other to slip up so that they can justify military action. Economic power has been shifting West to East for some time now. The powerful eastern countries and many smaller ones around the world have been forming economic and military alliances for the past decade.

I suspect there is some plan to either topple the dollar and therefore Americas worldwide economic stranglehold ... or take advantage of the dollar collapse that they believe to be inevitable. The turmoil induced by an economic disaster of that level has almost always lead to war historically.

Americas strength is its technological capability. However, that is also its greatest weakness. It wasn't that long ago that a squadron of F22's almost went down because of a bug in the flyby-wire software with regards to the international dateline.

http://www.f-22raptor.com/news_view.php?nid=267

The problem with being the biggest and baddest kid on the block is you're constantly on view for the world to see, you get comfortable, and you tend to let your guard down. Meanwhile, your enemies have all the time in the world to silently go to task trying to figure out all your weaknesses.

Germany was a cluster fk psot WWI. If i recall none of the major European nations gave them much thought (maybe a little more thought during the second half of the 1930s) until out of nowhere they started blitzkrieg'n everyone. It's like they said in one swoop... "Surprise mother fk'ers! You thought we were still licking our WWI wounds! You thought wrong! Suck on this V2 rocket that we've been secretly developing!"

Zero doubt in my mind that the ramp up in American military spending, our positions in the middle east, and a few other things is directly related to a global conflict scenario that have been encroaching for some time now.

[backinthegymbro]

It has always been a chess game between powerful nations. Each trying to get the other to slip up so that they can justify military action.

Maybe in the past or among smaller nations who don't have nuclear capabilities or russia taking over in ukraine, but something like russia vs usa is the end of both countries / the world.
Which really makes me wonder why the USA spends so much money on their military.
Wars these days against russia or china isn't going to be fought with the latest f-22's or tanks. It would be a nuclear war.

And we don't need the latest f-22's to lay waste to third world countries like in the middle east.
So why spend so much money on the military? I don't get it.
Pull back out of the middle east and invest all those billions in the USA's infrastructure, border security and everything else that can be improved upon.

[faxanadu]

Doesn't matter if you say they have "first strike" capability. To what end? Our nukes are distributed around the world via multiple launch sites, not to mention all of them that can be deployed via submarines and aircraft carriers. Russia isn't some terrorist state that is okay with seeing an end-times type event.

I don't see Russia, China, or any other major nation making bold manoeuvrers towards the USA unless they have figured out a way to nullify a long range ballistic missile threat.

Most people aren't aware that the Russians were way ahead of us in rocket design during the space race. So much so, that after the cold war calmed down I believe America purchased the tech from Russia. Russia aint no dummies and neither is China.

[faxanadu]

Maybe in the past or among smaller nations who don't have nuclear capabilities or russia taking over in ukraine, but something like russia vs usa is the end of both countries / the world.
Which really makes me wonder why the USA spends so much money on their military.
Wars these days against russia or china isn't going to be fought with the latest f-22's or tanks. It would be a nuclear war.

And we don't need the latest f-22's to lay waste to third world countries like in the middle east.
So why spend so much money on the military? I don't get it.
Pull back out of the middle east and invest all those billions in the USA's infrastructure, border security and everything else that can be improved upon.

Going back to the Romans and further ... the key to a large and stable empire has always been a large, strong, and capable military. No way America could keep the dollar propped up world wide without its military dominance. It's the 20th/21st century form of plundering a nation. Instead of walking in and taking things and slaves to send back to Rome ... give them pieces of paper in exchange for goods, services, and cheap labor. Extract their wealth right under their noses. That in turn feeds the industrial military complex.

[LinuxJon]

Wars these days against russia or china isn't going to be fought with the latest f-22's or tanks. It would be a nuclear war.

And we don't need the latest f-22's to lay waste to third world countries like in the middle east.

Wars between countries like Russia and the US aren't fought directly. They are fought as proxy wars. Places like Syria are a good example. There, yes, it does matter if we have better aircraft.

Also, Russia isn't the only thread. Countries like Iran are extremely provocative and do have advanced tech.

[faxanadu]

i dont understand how u.s. doesn't have anything russia has. or at the very least us couldn't turn around and fuk russia up even more

Just because you throw a bunch of money at something doesn't mean it produces quality results. Israel isn't even on that list and they have the best military defence system in the world. I've heard their cyber warfare abilities are top notch too.