From this instagram post, looks like it could be pretty cool.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bt9MlaChls1/
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Thread: Kabuki/Chris Duffin new trap bar
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02-18-2019, 10:19 AM #1
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02-18-2019, 10:22 AM #2
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02-18-2019, 10:46 AM #3
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02-18-2019, 11:34 AM #4
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My concerns about this bar are the following:
1. Price (will this be $600+ like every other bar?)
2. Shipping cost (as Gamecocklifter has pointed out; it'll drop this bar to $700+ easily)
3. How does this bar compare to the old BioTest Dead-Squat trap bar?
4. Not that it matters to me, but you can't place this on j-cups for overhead head. Supposedly, some people do this, but I've never met one, lol.
The 25kg/55 lb bar weight, to me, is perfect. It satisfies all of those KG fanatics while letting the majority who use pounds to simply tack an extra 10 lb to the total & call it a day.
I'm not sure how I feel about the rolling grips. Seems like that would make this bar better for those training grip or strongman. I'm seriously concerned about this, but I am not sure if it actually matters.
At the very least, it's a step in the right direction.Crews: Ivanko Barbell Crew #52, York Barbell Club #95, Equipment Crew #59
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02-18-2019, 01:01 PM #5
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02-18-2019, 03:04 PM #6
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02-18-2019, 04:38 PM #7
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02-19-2019, 03:27 AM #8
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02-19-2019, 03:46 AM #9
There’s a lot you can do with it. Whether its better or worse than a barbell or dumbbells is up to the user.
Cambered squats
Zercher squats
Zercher carries
Step ups
Zercher step ups
Walking lunges
Seated deadlifts
Split squats
Yoke carries
Jump outs
Sprint outs
Etc...
They’re pretty cool pieces, IMO
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02-19-2019, 09:10 AM #10
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02-19-2019, 09:14 AM #11
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02-19-2019, 09:17 AM #12
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02-19-2019, 10:36 AM #13
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Yeah I really like the idea of a built in jack but not for that price. I don't really love trap bar deadlifts in general but if someone made one with similar features and got the price down to somewhere in the ballpark of the current Rogue trap bar offerings I might pick one up (excluding Titan because lol, no).
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02-19-2019, 10:48 AM #14
The more versatile the bar the more valuable it is in my eyes.
If you can do many different things with it the more likely i would buy it.
It though is very pricey and with shipping would make me think twice about buying.
Places like EFTfitness sell quality bar products and occasionally have sales and or free shipping.
I several bars i have paid a premium price on but the one good thing is it's a one time buy and they will last a life time.
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02-19-2019, 03:38 PM #15
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02-19-2019, 04:55 PM #16
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02-19-2019, 05:32 PM #17
I must be missing something here, you all know I’m an equipment snob in most ways when it comes to most bars and most machines but come on here, I’ve got the 150 dollar elitefts trap bar from 2005 built like a nuclear bomb and it flips over as easy as pie to use either handles, knurling sharp as a Texas bar.....guess how I counteracted the pain of loading plates, I went to sears a day after I got it and bought two of those cheap orange coated weider plates that are a half inch bigger circumference than my regular plates for like 25 bucks each and leave them on at all times so I can load the rest of the plates on and off with ease. Been using it once a week for a decade with no issues once, anyone who wants to give that hack duffin more than 250 dollars for that bar that cost me 50 dollars to do the same thing with, that’s on you
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02-19-2019, 05:37 PM #18
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02-19-2019, 05:52 PM #19
The main selling point is the open design. The kickstand is just a nice-to-have feature. These open end trap bars have pretty good balance, but you bring up an important point, and it’s one of the reasons I like the ModF design better - longer handles give more room for hand positions to counteract any potential balance issue. Not to mention you can close that bar in to eliminate it all together. I’m fairly sure they’re going to develop an attachable kickstand too given the modular design.
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02-19-2019, 06:25 PM #20
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02-19-2019, 06:28 PM #21
Yea but that’s what I don’t get I mean what great usages can you get out of not having the front, off the top of my head I would guess lunges, let me honest who does lunges, and it might actually be cool to use with an inclines bench to replicate a chest supported row but that move is perfect with heavy dumbbells anyway
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02-19-2019, 06:39 PM #22
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02-19-2019, 10:19 PM #23
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02-19-2019, 11:28 PM #24
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02-20-2019, 06:21 AM #25
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02-20-2019, 11:11 AM #26
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02-20-2019, 11:36 AM #28
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On Duffin's instagram there's a picture of him with his trap bar loaded to 575kg (1261 pounds).
https://www.instagram.com/p/BuCaL4vBAo6/
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02-20-2019, 11:55 AM #29
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02-20-2019, 01:47 PM #30
I've seen youtube videos of guys with 600 or so on the BW bar, but the 450 rating and lack of high handles is what has kept me away from it. I did see a picture of Titan's new rackable not-rackable bar holding 910 on a rack, so it would be pretty adequate at $215 shipped. Gopher Performance has their Hexcel rackable bar for ~$340 shipped, otherwise the market for rackable bars with high handles is pretty barren until you start looking at the higher priced stuff.
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