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    Functional Trainier

    Ok so I’m sure that this has been beaten to death but looking to buy a functional trainier. I want to be able to go heavy, at lest 200 lb dual stacks, smooth cable operation and made in U.S.A.. I have considered Cybex, Sorinex and Legend Fitness. Advice is appreciated!
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    Originally Posted by bdavison View Post
    Ok so I’m sure that this has been beaten to death but looking to buy a functional trainier. I want to be able to go heavy, at lest 200 lb dual stacks, smooth cable operation and made in U.S.A.. I have considered Cybex, Sorinex and Legend Fitness. Advice is appreciated!
    You're correct, the functional trainer has been well analysed here on the forum.

    I've never seen a Sorinex FT, I'm a big Legend fan and have 2 of their racks, but I didn't care for the Legend FT.

    I have the Cybex Bravo and really like this unit, but the stacks max out a less than 200lb2 , to 1 pulley ratio, I think you get around 90lb at the handle. All the Cybex heavy stacks are 4 to 1 pulley ratio and all end up with around 90lb of resistance.

    Personally I think this is sufficient on this type of unit, but I have a lat/low row with a 1 to 1 ratio and a 120kg stack for the heavier work.

    Here's a link to a recent thread that may be of interest.

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...hp?t=176811541
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    Don't worry too much about the weight stacks. It's easy to add extra resistance.
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    Love my body-solid functional trainer. You can get it in dual 200lb stacks and convert it to 300lb stacks in the future if you ever outgrow it.
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    I just bought the Hoist Mi6 last week and love it. I added the additional add-on for total of 200lbs per stack.

    The Mi7 also includes a smith machine that moves forward and back so you aren’t in just one plane of motion up and down. But it’s almost twice as much as the Mi6.
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    Look at the Prime Fitness FT. 250 pound stacks (with 15 pound add on weights for 265 total). 2:1 ratio.
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    Rep Fitness has a great looking FT with dual 220lb stacks with a 2:1 pulling ratio.
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    Originally Posted by daniel327 View Post
    Don't worry too much about the weight stacks. It's easy to add extra resistance.
    How cool is that! What unit is this? Can you buy that separate attachment for the top weight plate for band capability? I would love to do this on existing cable crossover and functional trainer
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    Originally Posted by nnclark11 View Post
    How cool is that! What unit is this? Can you buy that separate attachment for the top weight plate for band capability? I would love to do this on existing cable crossover and functional trainer
    The picture is of a Megatec Multiplex.

    I don't know if you can get the piece separately, however, any decent fabricator should be able to make one for you.
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    Originally Posted by nnclark11 View Post
    How cool is that! What unit is this? Can you buy that separate attachment for the top weight plate for band capability? I would love to do this on existing cable crossover and functional trainer
    The "Impact Fitness - Pin Adapter Review!" (can't post links) from a few posts down looks to be a better way to add weight.
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    Originally Posted by piratelifebad View Post
    The "Impact Fitness - Pin Adapter Review!" (can't post links) from a few posts down looks to be a better way to add weight.
    Why?
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    Originally Posted by daniel327 View Post
    Why?
    Well for starters, you don't have to drill holes in the frame and top plate and add rods for the bands. The pin adapters work on almost any weight stack without modification. Then, there's other advantages like adding up to 135lbs, knowing the exact weight that's being added, smooth consistent resistance throughout the motion, and the adapters themselves can also function as a fractional weight.
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    easy... x mark fitness functional trainer. 200lb stacks and an amazingly low pricetag.
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    boltfitnesssupply.com dual 160kg stacks (350lbs), price is lower than xmark
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    Originally Posted by piratelifebad View Post
    Well for starters, you don't have to drill holes in the frame and top plate and add rods for the bands. The pin adapters work on almost any weight stack without modification. Then, there's other advantages like adding up to 135lbs, knowing the exact weight that's being added, smooth consistent resistance throughout the motion, and the adapters themselves can also function as a fractional weight.
    LOL. Nonsense. The adapter I linked, or a variation of it, can be used for weight plates. It also allows you to add your weight to the adapter and then increase or decrease it using the original pin. Try doing a drop set with a pin type adapter. Good luck.

    Also, if you want to add bands, which is a whole different concept to adding weight, good luck doing that with a pin type adapter. Finally, drilling holes in a frame and adding band pins isn't a big deal.
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    Originally Posted by piratelifebad View Post
    Well for starters, you don't have to drill holes in the frame and top plate and add rods for the bands. The pin adapters work on almost any weight stack without modification. Then, there's other advantages like adding up to 135lbs, knowing the exact weight that's being added, smooth consistent resistance throughout the motion, and the adapters themselves can also function as a fractional weight.
    Top plate is not drilled. Look again, it's a seperate add-on that goes on top.
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    Originally Posted by daniel327 View Post
    LOL. Nonsense. The adapter I linked, or a variation of it, can be used for weight plates.
    Yea I missed the custom top plate that's only sold as part of $2500 Australian multi station gym. So now you need to design it for your stack/machine, and then get it custom fabricated

    Other than that, it's a great idea and a terrific solution if you want to go through the trouble.

    Or, you know, you could add weight to your stack by taking the pin adapter out of the shipping box, put it in your weight stack and workout.

    Originally Posted by daniel327 View Post
    Also, if you want to add bands, which is a whole different concept to adding weight, good luck doing that with a pin type adapter.
    Can't argue there. I personally don't need to add bands to a functional trainer/lat tower etc...

    Originally Posted by daniel327 View Post
    It also allows you to add your weight to the adapter and then increase or decrease it using the original pin. Try doing a drop set with a pin type adapter. Good luck.
    Wut? The original pin goes in the bottom of the stack and the pin adapter goes near the top with the additional plates. Otherwise you wouldn't be adding the whole stack + plates, which makes adding the additional plates pointless.

    So for drop sets, you have room to move the original pin up at least 40% up the weight stack (worst case using 45s), plus you can just take the plates off as needed.

    Originally Posted by daniel327 View Post
    Finally, drilling holes in a frame and adding band pins isn't a big deal.
    Where did I say it was a big deal? I just said you had to do it. Drilling high security safes like I used to do is a big deal.
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    Originally Posted by piratelifebad View Post

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    I still disagree with you, but you go ahead and enjoy your pin adapter.
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    Originally Posted by daniel327 View Post
    I still disagree with you, but you go ahead and enjoy your pin adapter.
    LOL, I don't even use them. Great response though, you can go ahead and enjoy disagreeing with the facts I posted all you want.
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