Ocasio-Cortez Is Dangerously Ignorant, Hurting Democrats

[Postmort3m]

The Amazon HQ could have been residual.. From the drywall and HVAC contractors who helped build it, all the way to the delis and coffee shops in the neighborhood where it was at.. 20k people making an average of $150k would have had a Yuuuge impact bro.

Nonsense! People who work, pay taxes and contribute are destroying communities!

We need more who are unwilling to work to justify a UBI.

[Bushmaster]

Nonsense! People who work, pay taxes and contribute are destroying communities!

We need more who are unwilling to work to justify a UBI.

Aware lol..

But muh equality! Muh Green Deal!

[BadMonkeyFunker]

The Amazon HQ could have been residual.. From the drywall and HVAC contractors who helped build it, all the way to the delis and coffee shops in the neighborhood where it was at.. 20k people making an average of $150k would have had a Yuuuge impact bro.

The agreement comes with a number of incentives: Specifically, Amazon will receive $897 million from the city’s Relocation and Employment Assistance Program (REAP) and $386 million from the Industrial & Commercial Abatement Program (ICAP). It will receive an additional $505 million in a capital grant and $1.2 billion in “Excelsior” credits if its job creation goals are met. That brings the total amount of public funds granted to $2.988 billion

—in other words, the city and state will pay Amazon $48,000 per job.

[Bushmaster]

The agreement comes with a number of incentives: Specifically, Amazon will receive $897 million from the city’s Relocation and Employment Assistance Program (REAP) and $386 million from the Industrial & Commercial Abatement Program (ICAP). It will receive an additional $505 million in a capital grant and $1.2 billion in “Excelsior” credits if its job creation goals are met. That brings the total amount of public funds granted to $2.988 billion

—in other words, the city and state will pay Amazon $48,000 per job.

Ok so you broke down the incentives, BFD.

Think those 20k employees weren't going to pay any taxes? Or were they offered incentives too?

[BadMonkeyFunker]

All tax credits with exception for a $325m Grant. Deal still payed NYS/NYC $9 for every $1 invested. Overall $27bn return on $3bn in tax incentives. You have no argument.

there is no gurantee for that return. amazon suppose to create those jobs in the next 10 years.. LMFAO! they take your money and make you work for it and pay you with your own money.... how's that corporate dink taste like ?

You have no argument. I am glad they're kicked out. Bye now..

[BadMonkeyFunker]

Yea and each of those incentives are awarded per hire. If they don't hire, they don't get the incentives. Even your fellow dems and progressives know NY blew it on losing this deal.

Amazon doesnt need that 3B. Alot of people in the middle were gonna get a cut. It's corrupt NY politics same sht different era. They dont have money for roads, they couldnfd fund MTA or housing but magically they pulled 3B for Amazon.. LMFAO!

[RamataKahn]

Give that tax break to mom and pop shops and small businesses, see what happens. Encourage small businesses to expand and hire. I know right wingers love going down on their corporate masters but... holy sht! It's nonstop fearmongering and lies all over right wing media. They're scared ****less. They know people are waking up, new generation won't work for $7/hr with no benefits and no safety net.

Alright you're trolling, 4/10.

[acrawlingchaos]

Holy ****, you are as moronic and ignorant as she is about basic economics, a tax break is not money.

Alright you're trolling, 4/10.

Christ bro, you even have anything of value to add to your own thread?

[Mr Beer]

"Surely this is the end of AOC" says increasingly nervous Conservative pundit.

[Stizzel]

Great. She already triggered millions of *you* people in 2 months. You cant stop talking about her. I say She's doing a great job!

Why would anyone other than other democrats be upset about the stupid chit she does?

Put on your thinking cap and do your best to use your words

[sandaltan]

I work for one of them bro.. I make a very comfortable living, have mad benefits, and am treated very well. (no sweatshop).

Sorry, but you're gonna have to come stronger than regurgitating Bernie and Cortex's socialist spew to convince me lol

i mean i work for an entity (partnership) too - almost everyone does. in fact, even people who work for themselves incorporate too. in general, if youre working, its for a company or some kind of incorporation.

i mean, isnt it possible that amazon moving a warehouse to NYC isnt the best thing for the people?

i mean, maybe its better to promote small business instead? surely there are negative repercussions - its definitely not nothing but positives. amazon wouldve probably pushed out some small business, and NY was willing to offer significant tax breaks as well.

i can see both sides, but people here are on amazons tip super hard

[fitnessislife]

This is her 2nd month ... literally 2 months in politics. I say give her 5 years and she'll run for president and probably win.

LMFAO!

Typical, cheerleading for a brain-dead communist.

[topperstyle]

LMFAO!

Breaking news dumb liberals living on credit cards will spend more money on Netflix.

[Dave22reborn]

Just like your ****ing president

She's just the other side of the coin

The irony of your statement is guaranteed to be lost on you

Except people like you support her and her policies.

[Dave22reborn]

"Surely this is the end of AOC" says increasingly nervous Conservative pundit.

Who's nervous? We're laughing at her? Hell, two months in, and she's already ****ing over her district with this Amazon fiasco.

[Dave22reborn]

i mean i work for an entity (partnership) too - almost everyone does. in fact, even people who work for themselves incorporate too. in general, if youre working, its for a company or some kind of incorporation.

i mean, isnt it possible that amazon moving a warehouse to NYC isnt the best thing for the people?

i mean, maybe its better to promote small business instead? surely there are negative repercussions - its definitely not nothing but positives. amazon wouldve probably pushed out some small business, and NY was willing to offer significant tax breaks as well.

i can see both sides, but people here are on amazons tip super hard

Billionaires are leaving, and now this, and you're trying to spin it like it's a positive thing....

[Tha big kahoona]

This is the end of Occasional Cortex

[gwem32170191]

I read every single post in this thread but did not even once see an argument.

[sawoobley]

I wonder how much Trump is paying her.

[Dave22reborn]

This is the end of Occasional Cortex

She screwed over district with the Amazon deal falling apart, and this is in her first two months, who knows what the future holds.

[Mr Beer]

Who's nervous? We're laughing at her? Hell, two months in, and she's already ****ing over her district with this Amazon fiasco.

Concern trolling from conservative spambot 'oh noes AOC makes the Dems look bad '.

Increasingly. Nervous.

[mtpktz]

Amazon doesnt need that 3B. Alot of people in the middle were gonna get a cut. It's corrupt NY politics same sht different era. They dont have money for roads, they couldnfd fund MTA or housing but magically they pulled 3B for Amazon.. LMFAO!

BadMonkeyFunker confirmed Ocasio-Cortez advisor.

LMFAO! is right.

[andrepmeet]

The more she talks, the better conservatives look. She is clearly a clueless, self-important twit.

I want to see her succeed for a while she is kind of the Anti-Trump but has all the same "in for the lulz" characteristics....charismatic , nutty, unpredictable....bonus is easy on the eyes .

kinda fun to see how 2020 Dems will have to (i mean via force) address whatever nutty thing she says. Just like all the Repubs had to do with Trump when they were trying to do serious interview...

gonna be fun to watch. she shouldn't have chased away Amazon would have been better to have them come in, only company next to apple and google who could afford to build the infrastructure privately, and then make worker-friendly legislation.

not to mention all the immigrants in NYC who would jump at the chance to work for Amazon but now forced to still drive uber....SAD!

[Jessejame5]

Did that guy just srsly say to 'use the $3b to create jobs instead of giving it to amazon'

[superman704]

She's a true millenial

[Clkflynn]

no valid argument presented

[Trapstar4.4]

Oh. So now people are worried about ignorance in politics?
Lmao it's snowing outside so how could climate change be real?

[Sakeoe]

Oh. So now people are worried about ignorance in politics?
Lmao it's snowing outside so how could climate change be real?

Libs: Lmao how can someone say climate change isn't real cause its a cold winter.

Also libs: This extremely hot summer is undeniable proof of climate change.

[Bushmaster]

i mean i work for an entity (partnership) too - almost everyone does. in fact, even people who work for themselves incorporate too. in general, if youre working, its for a company or some kind of incorporation.

i mean, isnt it possible that amazon moving a warehouse to NYC isnt the best thing for the people?

Lol at how libs keep trying to downplay this by calling it a warehouse. Let me help you out bro - it wasn't a warehouse.

And like I said in the other discussion - what if it WAS a warehouse? You don't honestly think there wouldn't be people who could use one of those jobs do you? The fast food workers who've been demanding $15 per hour would have been perfect candidates. They get off minimum wage, Amazon fills its warehouse, libs (theoretically) are pleased - win win situation. No?

i mean, maybe its better to promote small business instead?

Or maybe instead of "instead" we promote ALL business? Despite what Cortex and Bernie tell you, corporations are not your enemy ffs. You'll also never tax your way to prosperity.. Assuming prosperity is the goal of them and their boot lickers. Starting to wonder boyo... just sayin.

[Ikeman83]

My favorite part of her continued existence is that she drives leftists increasingly leftward and makes Trump the centrist option.

Delightful.