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    Socialism is inevitable in the United States

    And it will be glorious when it finally happens. As Marx predicted, capitalism is not sustainable and plants the seeds of its own destruction. The proletariat will eventually realize they've had enough of the wage slave system and revolt against the exploitation of their labor. You can even see it starting to happen here on the misc, which is one of the most right leaning sites on the internet.

    This is the first time in history when socialism/communism will actually be properly implemented. We've gone through our period of capitalism and elimination of scarcity; Now the working class is starting to gain political power. We even have a federalist system of government to prevent corruption. People are starting to realize that humans were not meant to live this kind of empty slave life. Pepper your angus boyos. The revolution is coming.

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    You think the Fed is going to continue to print money for socialists? Think again.

    Eventually socialists run out of other people's money to spend.
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    Originally Posted by keyboardworkout View Post
    You think the Fed is going to continue to print money for socialists? Think again.

    Eventually socialists run out of other people's money to spend.

    Why do you think socialism is incompatible with wealth production?

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    I’d argue with you about how socialism is a death sentence for any nation to adopt but im sure you’re just trolling. However, if you’re not trolling then you will probably reconsider your opinion once the boot of the military of the socialist USA cracks down on you for “wrong think”.

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    Originally Posted by MirinCanadian99 View Post
    I’d argue with you about how socialism is a death sentence for any nation to adopt but im sure you’re just trolling. However, if you’re not trolling then you will probably reconsider your opinion once the boot of the military of the socialist USA cracks down on you for “wrong think”.
    You're describing an authoritarian regime. That has nothing to do with socialism.

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    i think the best form of governance is a blend. the one-size-fits all approach is fukked.

    healthcare, the military and education should be largely socialized
    industry should be largely free market and capitalism with sufficient consumer rules and protections
    other parts should maybe something else
    everything should be done with complete transparency

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    Originally Posted by Kormo View Post
    Who the fk cares. Just put food in your mouth chew, and repeat. Life ain't rocket science
    Funny that you use eating as an example. Socialism tends to make this simple task very difficult to the point you're selling your daughters body for food or you're eating the family dog.
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    Originally Posted by DoctorKazama View Post
    You're describing an authoritarian regime. That has nothing to do with socialism.
    You're a certified moron if you think socialism can ever be implemented perfectly (or what supports would consider perfectly), there is one large element to the equation that will mess it up EVERY TIME with 100% certainty and that is people are involved and people are greedy.
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    It seems that we will have neither capitalism nor socialism.

    Maybe some sort of techno-agrarian return to feudalism
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    Funny that you use eating as an example. Socialism tends to make this simple task very difficult to the point you're selling your daughters body for food or you're eating the family dog.
    Nothing is black and white. Modern governments are hybrid socialism/capitalism
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    Originally Posted by Kormo View Post
    Nothing is black and white. Modern governments are hybrid socialism/capitalism
    And when they lean too far in the socialism direction to the point that the capitalist side can't cover up for the socialist side the country fails.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    And when they lean too far in the socialism direction to the point that the capitalist side can't cover up for the socialist side the country fails.
    When you go too far right, there is imbalance. I think being a centrist is ideal. Socialism and capitalism are meant to work synergistically with each other
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    Originally Posted by DoctorKazama View Post
    You're describing an authoritarian regime. That has nothing to do with socialism.
    Have you ever asked yourself why Socialism always ends up authoritarian? Its because it fails even before its applied. No sane person is gonna give up his land, money, and himself to a greater good when the next door neighbor can mooch off of him. Hence why the socialist leaders turn authoritarian and millions die in the process.

    Stop being utopian and actually study human nature and the history of socialism and capitalism. Capitalism accepts human nature and socialism does not. Take your pick.

    Look up Jamestown and how it was the one of the first socialist experiments in the USA and how it failed miserably.

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    Yeah, no it won't happen no matter how much Milleneals try to whine about their college debt and they can't get jobs with their Liberal Arts degrees.
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    good, tired of chasing health care

    tho ,i'm not sure i would want the fed govnt in charge of it either

    sigh

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    if we're talking about made up idea's then the way the government was set up in Starship Troopers would be ideal


    At the end of 20th century, national governments of the world collapse because of so-called unlimited democracies. These "unlimited democracies" are the fraudulent Marxian definition of value from which "Communism derives" and civil unrest due to a "pre-scientific pseudo-professional class" who called themselves Social Workers and Child Psychologists banning Corporal Punishment.

    In 1987 there is war between the Russo - Anglo - American Alliance and the Chinese Hegemony. Shortly before the war's end, a group of intellectuals perform a coup d'état in an attempt at creating a utopia. This incident later came to be known as the Revolt of the Scientists. . At the end of the war the Treaty of New Delhi was signed. This treaty freed prisoners captured by the Russo-Anglo-American Alliance. However left approximately 65,000 civilians (Japanese, Filipino and Russian) and 2 divisions of British Paratroopers in Chinese incarceration to be sentenced for political crimes, forcing the abandoned prisoners to escape to gain freedom.

    It should also be noted that at the end of the 20th century, the North American Republic was brought down by raging illegal activity which took place all around the world, including Russia and the United Kingdom. Crime was at its peak for most of the second half of the 20th century, lasting up to the war between the Russo - Anglo - American Alliance and the Chinese Hegemony.

    After the collapse of national governments, a group of veterans in Aberdeen, Scotland formed a vigilante group to stop rioting and looting. They hanged a few people (including 2 veterans) and decide to only allow veterans to join their committee due to a mistrust of politicians. This contingency plan became routine after a couple of generations, and this group of vigilantes was the start of the Terran Federation.

    The Terran Federation is a multicultural society that functions as a limited democracy. Full citizenship is not guaranteed to all members of the population and must be earned, typically through military service. Citizenship grants additional civil rights, such as suffrage and the right to run for political office.

    However, people of higher levels of authority also have to suffer tougher repercussions of their actions, for instance, a Lieutenant could hang for making a mistake that a Private would merely be dismissed and maybe lashed for, while Corporal and Capital Punishment are practiced by the government as well as physical child rearing being standard use amongst the population.
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    Originally Posted by MirinCanadian99 View Post
    Have you ever asked yourself why Socialism always ends up authoritarian? Its because it fails even before its applied. No sane person is gonna give up his land, money, and himself to a greater good when the next door neighbor can mooch off of him. Hence why the socialist leaders turn authoritarian and millions die in the process.

    Stop being utopian and actually study human nature and the history of socialism and capitalism. Capitalism accepts human nature and socialism does not. Take your pick.

    Look up Jamestown and how it was the one of the first socialist experiments in the USA and how it failed miserably.
    There's a difference between personal and private property. Nobody's coming to take your land away. You seem to have a misunderstanding of what socialism is. And what is human nature, according to you?

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    Originally Posted by DoctorKazama View Post
    You're describing an authoritarian regime. That has nothing to do with socialism.
    you cant have socialism without authoritarianism

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    If that ever happens, I reckon those concentration camps filled with empty body bags will come into good use

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