Bulk or Cut

[daaz324]

Hi People

67KG
5 FT 10

Should i continue to cut or gain some size first?

Pic below of what I am now compared to before. I have a long way to go!

[mgftp]

IMO, light bulk, you'll benefit from newbie gains and put on muscle while trimming the belly fat as long as you don't put calories too high.

[hardyboysare]

You need to bulk you aren't fat anymore so build more muscle no need to lose anymore IMHO.

Make sure you are following a good workout program and getting the correct macros whilst aiming to add about 2lbs a month.

[daaz324]

You need to bulk you aren't fat anymore so build more muscle no need to lose anymore IMHO.

Make sure you are following a good workout program and getting the correct macros whilst aiming to add about 2lbs a month.

Even though I cant see my abs etc?

I made a mistake of dieting before without weight training!

[daaz324]

IMO, light bulk, you'll benefit from newbie gains and put on muscle while trimming the belly fat as long as you don't put calories too high.

What shall I use calories wise. Over maintenance or just under?

I used to have alot of muscle mass when I was younger but have not been to the gym for 9 years! Hopefully muscle memory!!

[mgftp]

What shall I use calories wise. Over maintenance or just under?

I used to have alot of muscle mass when I was younger but have not been to the gym for 9 years! Hopefully muscle memory!!

Over

[daaz324]

Over

Cheers, maybe ill go for 200-250 to bulk for abit- cheers

[hardyboysare]

Even though I cant see my abs etc?

I made a mistake of dieting before without weight training!

You will need to build more muscle before worry about abs. If you tried cutting that low you would look really small and thin. As already stated you added a very small amount of calories and continuously weight train you should gain a higher percentage of muscle to fat. You may not get abs from this but you will look more solid and built.

[daaz324]

You will need to build more muscle before worry about abs. If you tried cutting that low you would look really small and thin. As already stated you added a very small amount of calories and continuously weight train you should gain a higher percentage of muscle to fat. You may not get abs from this but you will look more solid and built.

Ok perfect, I will start a clean bulk... Shall I go over by 200? Until what point shall I do this before i start cutting again

[hardyboysare]

Ok perfect, I will start a clean bulk... Shall I go over by 200? Until what point shall I do this before i start cutting again

Sounds good. The key is to only consume 200 calories more then TDEE maintenance in order to increase weight by 2lbs a month. Now from personal experience and simply seeing it all the time sticking to only 2lb gains a month is a challenge in itself, so focus on trying your best to follow this amount after the first 2 weeks as weight increase will be more as you have more water weight/ glycogen and food in your system.

After the first two weeks then aim for 2lbs a month. If you do over 2lbs a month (something like 4-5lbs) then drop calories back until you are in this zone. For how long depends if you are only gaining 2lbs a month then you could go for up to 6 months to a year that depends on the amount of fat you gain of this 2lbs which hopefully will be minimal.

[JCubb12]

Hi People

67KG
5 FT 10

Should i continue to cut or gain some size first?

Pic below of what I am now compared to before. I have a long way to go!

Bulk hard man and don't concern yourself too much with the fat gains. The absolute worst thing you can do on a bulk is not eat enough.

Most people have trouble estimating their calorie intake with laser precision. If you think you are only 250 calories over maintenance and you are off by as little as 10% (which isn't bad, honestly) you could still be eating at maintenance. I think the minimum surplus anyone who is not weighing and tracking their food with extreme precision should shoot for is 500 calories over maintenance. Then if you are off by 10%, you still are at a surplus. Better to gain a time bit of extra fat than screw up for 3 months and still be in the same spot.

[daaz324]

Thanks people!

I will start to bulk 🙌

[BS57]

Bulk hard man and don't concern yourself too much with the fat gains. The absolute worst thing you can do on a bulk is not eat enough.

Most people have trouble estimating their calorie intake with laser precision. If you think you are only 250 calories over maintenance and you are off by as little as 10% (which isn't bad, honestly) you could still be eating at maintenance. I think the minimum surplus anyone who is not weighing and tracking their food with extreme precision should shoot for is 500 calories over maintenance. Then if you are off by 10%, you still are at a surplus. Better to gain a time bit of extra fat than screw up for 3 months and still be in the same spot.

OP, if you follow this, you'll gain entirely more fat than you'll care to.

You SHOULD care how much fat you gain.

[daaz324]

OP, if you follow this, you'll gain entirely more fat than you'll care to.

You SHOULD care how much fat you gain.

Thanks!

Im going to go 300 over TDEE to aim for 2lbs a month!