getting so sooooo close now!

[OldFartTom]

I have target for weight (hopefully... fat) loss. Sure it's entirely arbitrary number: anything less than 70Kg even if it's 69.99 ( <=154 lbs)
Today I weighed in at gym (after morning workout) on one of those slide the little weights about medical scale as 69.95Kg

Actually this is just a big fluctuation rather than a "true" reading, as it's a big bit below my usual weigh in and I did just relieve myself, so it's not a consistent weight, but it's the first reading I've had in a long time <70Kg. This shows me it's possible and I'm close. Been slowly cutting for about 6 months now, so this is hard earned.

I'm not posting this to fish for well done messages, pats on the back or expecting some kind of medal for losing a few pounds (about 8.5 Kg) as others have achieved far more in far tougher circumstances. And I've already been given all the encouragement I need from seeing the number on the scales this morning.

But if any of you here are feeling depressed and struggling to lose the last few pounds, stick with it guys, it's do-able! just keep going!

[tblodg15]

*That’s awesome*

*Well done!*

*Pat on back*

Seriously though nice job and the sense of accomplishment is a nice reward!

[kimm4]

[mtpockets]

I have target for weight (hopefully... fat) loss. Sure it's entirely arbitrary number: anything less than 70Kg even if it's 69.99 ( <=154 lbs)
Today I weighed in at gym (after morning workout) on one of those slide the little weights about medical scale as 69.95Kg

Actually this is just a big fluctuation rather than a "true" reading, as it's a big bit below my usual weigh in and I did just relieve myself, so it's not a consistent weight, but it's the first reading I've had in a long time <70Kg. This shows me it's possible and I'm close. Been slowly cutting for about 6 months now, so this is hard earned.

I'm not posting this to fish for well done messages, pats on the back or expecting some kind of medal for losing a few pounds (about 8.5 Kg) as others have achieved far more in far tougher circumstances. And I've already been given all the encouragement I need from seeing the number on the scales this morning.

But if any of you here are feeling depressed and struggling to lose the last few pounds, stick with it guys, it's do-able! just keep going!

Great Job! Congrats!

[Payton1221]

Well done. And the motivating thing about fatloss is just how fast (relatively speaking) it occurs. How long should it take most of us on here to lose 10 pounds of fat? Maybe 10 weeks. How long might it take most of us to gain 10 lbs of lean mass? Somewhere to between a year to we'll never be able to gain another 10 lbs of muscle

[Plateauplower]

Nice Job Tom. By now the "dieting" should pretty much -"just the way you eat"

Well done. And the motivating thing about fatloss is just how fast (relatively speaking) it occurs. How long should it take most of us on here to lose 10 pounds of fat? Maybe 10 weeks. How long might it take most of us to gain 10 lbs of lean mass? Somewhere to between a year to we'll never be able to gain another 10 lbs of muscle

Lol I hate the final parts of dieting. Scale loss is crazy slow, but mirror changes can be all over the place by minor water fluctuations crazy lean to looking puffy etc. Its a mental battle more than physical for me....

[Plagen]

How tall are you? Just curious

[OldFartTom]

How tall are you? Just curious

1.78m (5' 10") I'm pretty scrawny build, so lighter than people might expect. Even at my 69.9999Kg target I'll have a bit of fat at back and a definitely invisible 6 pack (who wanted the visible one anyway? Think I'll add that to my sig line ) Any more cutting is going to kill me, I'm pitifully weak as it is.

Maybe cut for a 4 pack next time? I'll also be more careful to limit fat gain on next bulk

Edit: just noticed Sig line got spell corrected to dog line (what???) Correcting!

[ElrondHubbard]

1.78m (5' 10") I'm pretty scrawny build, so lighter than people might expect. Even at my 69.9999Kg target I'll have a bit of fat at back and a definitely invisible 6 pack (who wanted the visible one anyway? Think I'll add that to my dog line ) Any more cutting is going to kill me, I'm pitifully weak as it is.

Maybe cut for a 4 pack next time? I'll also be more careful to limit fat gain on next bulk

you could always go for a 12-pack. Worked for me for years!

And yeah, you probably want to go for strength before you concentrated on shreddedness.

[OldFartTom]

... ...And yeah, you probably want to go for strength before you concentrated on shreddedness.

Well I've bounced around on classic 5*5 for a year or two and some MadCow for 6 months, then due to inconsistency 5*5 again 12 months (ignoring a lot of time less serious lifting and fitness training before that). Unfortunately a lot of "life" has hit me and the last couple of years haven't been as consistent basis I'd liked, but I'm not able to get much further on strength tha n novice 1.5/1/2. I'm thinking I need to go for volume, then strength, then shredded and make the plan a bit longer timescale. That all said... strength and endurance are my goals not pure size.

[ElrondHubbard]

Well I've bounced around on classic 5*5 for a year or two and some MadCow for 6 months, then due to inconsistency 5*5 again 12 months (ignoring a lot of time less serious lifting and fitness training before that). Unfortunately a lot of "life" has hit me and the last couple of years haven't been as consistent basis I'd liked, but I'm not able to get much further on strength tha n novice 1.5/1/2. I'm thinking I need to go for volume, then strength, then shredded and make the plan a bit longer timescale. That all said... strength and endurance are my goals not pure size.

I found, after much struggle with stalls and regressions, that adding volume to the basic Madcow template, and lowering the weekly percentage increase, was the best way for me to keep gaining strength out of it. My weekly increases are set for 1.5% now instead of 2.5%, and I've added volume sets and drop sets, as well as trying for 7 to 8 reps on my submaximal sets. I still focus on the top set having 5 reps though. I've made slow, but fairly steady progress since I switched it up that way.

Can't do that during a cut, though!

[OldFartTom]

I found, after much struggle with stalls and regressions, that adding volume to the basic Madcow template, and lowering the weekly percentage increase... ...

Thanks -- I've looked at your training log and what your doing is certainly working for you, recently your progress looks like slow moving lava (nothing seems to stop it's progress). My MadCow experiments had shown it wasn't enough volume for me and it was just like a better/slower Stronglifts in some ways, which was great for a while but not what I need to beat my "slow gainer" physique. When I'm back in stronger shape, I think I'll try MadCow (or pretty similar) volume-modified as you describe and tune it over time.