2019 CFB Chat Thread

[Orlando1234977]

Nebraska has more championships in my lifetime than Ohio State. How many does Wisconsin have?

Nebraska was a great. That was over 20 years ago, when they played defense. To say they could soon be where Wisconsin is now is a huge stretch.

[Orlando1234977]

#1 in yards/game defense.
#1 in points/game defense.
#1 in defensive efficiency.
What is defensive efficiency?
"Team efficiencies are based on the point contributions of each unit to the team's scoring margin, on a per-play basis. The values are adjusted for strength of schedule and down-weighted for "garbage time" (based on win probability). The scale goes from 0 to 100; higher numbers are better and the average is roughly 50 for all categories."
There's a reason Wisconsin won 100+ games over the last decade without ever having a "top 25 recruiting class", even if not "chosen", by the "experts", for "playoff" competition.

[JMath]

#1 in yards/game defense.
#1 in points/game defense.
#1 in defensive efficiency.
What is defensive efficiency?
"Team efficiencies are based on the point contributions of each unit to the team's scoring margin, on a per-play basis. The values are adjusted for strength of schedule and down-weighted for "garbage time" (based on win probability). The scale goes from 0 to 100; higher numbers are better and the average is roughly 50 for all categories."
There's a reason Wisconsin won 100+ games over the last decade without ever having a "top 25 recruiting class", even if not "chosen", by the "experts", for "playoff" competition.

You beat average competition. That is how you got 100+ wins over the last decade. Your defense is good, yes. But lets not pretend like a fair amount of wins aren't due to being in the significantly inferior West. Nebraska benefits from that too, so it's not crazy to think they can abuse an easier schedule too if Scott Frost is as good as people think. The West is probably good for at least 2 extra wins per year.

Since the B1G has had divisions you've been pretty terrible against the big 4 in the East. That includes a time where UM was down, OSU had an interim coach and sanctions, and PSU had sanctions.

Out of conference during that span, you haven't been world beaters either. When they play decent or better teams they don't do great. They lost to an average LSU

W- 4-8 Notre Dame
W- 8-4 LSU
L- 8-5 LSU
L- Eventual national champ Bama.


Since the B1G has gone to divisions this is how Wisconsin has done against the Easts big 4:

2011 - Played PSU (sanctioned), OSU (sanctioned and interim coach), and MSU (twice) - Went 2-2
2012 - Played PSU, MSU, OSU - Went 0-3
2013 - Played OSU, PSU - Went 0-2
2014 - You played none of the good East teams until OSU in the championship. You lost. 0-1
2015 - You avoid all of the good East teams again, but don't make the championship.
2016 - You play MSU, UM, OSU, and PSU (in the championship). You go 1-3, only beating a 3-9 MSU.
2017 - You play UM and OSU (championship). You went 1-1 (beating an 8-5 UM)
2018 - You play UM and PSU. You went 0-2
2019 - You actually look like a really good team this season. Seems like the offense and defense are both looking really good.

That's 5-14 against PSU, OSU, MSU, and UM since the B1G has gone to divisions. If you break down those 5 wins you had:

1) 6-7 OSU in Luke Fickell's season in 2011
2) 11-3 MSU in the conference championship in 2011
3) 3-9 MSU in 2016
4) 8-5 UM in 2017
5) This years UM team, who looks pretty average.

[W1LLW]

Interdasting how things are shaking out if Bama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Oklahoma run the table. I mean, oklahoma still have some question marks on their calendar, namely Texas. I'm also assuming Bama runs the table because i've been told all year #7 Auburn, #5 LSU, and #3 Georgia are "cupcakes/nobodies/weak schedule".

I wonder how badly they punish the loser of the SEC chip if both teams were undefeated up until that point, and oklahoma runs the table. I think style points are going to play a big role. This might end up like the inagural playoffs when TCU and Baylor were playing out of their minds and spots 3 - 6 could have been anybody

[HoustonMiscer]

Interdasting how things are shaking out if Bama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Oklahoma run the table. I mean, oklahoma still have some question marks on their calendar, namely Texas. I'm also assuming Bama runs the table because i've been told all year #7 Auburn, #5 LSU, and #3 Georgia are "cupcakes/nobodies/weak schedule".

I wonder how badly they punish the loser of the SEC chip if both teams were undefeated up until that point, and oklahoma runs the table. I think style points are going to play a big role

if lsu loses to only alabama and oklahoma lets say loses to texas but wins the big 12 would you put oklahoma in or lsu in

[W1LLW]

if lsu loses to only alabama and oklahoma lets say loses to texas but wins the big 12 would you put oklahoma in or lsu in

If LSU loses to Alabama, that means they don't go to the SEC chip to play Georgia. That in itself rules them out of the playoffs.

#1 in yards/game defense.
#1 in points/game defense.
#1 in defensive efficiency.

And outside of the BCS era...

0 National chips
0 Big10 Chips
0 Playoff Appearances

[Godyssey]

You beat average competition. That is how you got 100+ wins over the last decade. Your defense is good, yes. But lets not pretend like a fair amount of wins aren't due to being in the significantly inferior West. Nebraska benefits from that too, so it's not crazy to think they can abuse an easier schedule too if Scott Frost is as good as people think. The West is probably good for at least 2 extra wins per year.

Since the B1G has had divisions you've been pretty terrible against the big 4 in the East. That includes a time where UM was down, OSU had an interim coach and sanctions, and PSU had sanctions.

Out of conference during that span, you haven't been world beaters either. When they play decent or better teams they don't do great. They lost to an average LSU

W- 4-8 Notre Dame
W- 8-4 LSU
L- 8-5 LSU
L- Eventual national champ Bama.


Since the B1G has gone to divisions this is how Wisconsin has done against the Easts big 4:

2011 - Played PSU (sanctioned), OSU (sanctioned and interim coach), and MSU (twice) - Went 2-2
2012 - Played PSU, MSU, OSU - Went 0-3
2013 - Played OSU, PSU - Went 0-2
2014 - You played none of the good East teams until OSU in the championship. You lost. 0-1
2015 - You avoid all of the good East teams again, but don't make the championship.
2016 - You play MSU, UM, OSU, and PSU (in the championship). You go 1-3, only beating a 3-9 MSU.
2017 - You play UM and OSU (championship). You went 1-1 (beating an 8-5 UM)
2018 - You play UM and PSU. You went 0-2
2019 - You actually look like a really good team this season. Seems like the offense and defense are both looking really good.

That's 5-14 against PSU, OSU, MSU, and UM since the B1G has gone to divisions. If you break down those 5 wins you had:

1) 6-7 OSU in Luke Fickell's season in 2011
2) 11-3 MSU in the conference championship in 2011
3) 3-9 MSU in 2016
4) 8-5 UM in 2017
5) This years UM team, who looks pretty average.

Absolute ether of delusional Wisconsin fans.

Holy chit

[Blasting]

Absolute ether of delusional Wisconsin fans.

Holy chit

After talking **** all week you guys got fukking blown the fuk out and you’re in here saying Wisconsin fans got ethered?

Pathetic.

[DeshaunWatson]

I’m over here sitting on my throne while y’all figure it out. See y’all at the Natty

[Blasting]

I’m over here sitting on my throne while y’all figure it out. See y’all at the Natty

Meanwhile Watson can’t even sit down right now because he’s been getting bent over and fukked hard by his organization.

[Godyssey]

After talking **** all week you guys got fukking blown the fuk out and you’re in here saying Wisconsin fans got ethered?

Pathetic.

What does a game that happened a week ago have ANYTHING to do with shooting down these stupid narratives? Lol

Next argument are you going to bring up Appalachian State?

Stay on topic you goon!

[AriGhold]

What does a game that happened a week ago have ANYTHING to do with shooting down these stupid narratives? Lol

Next argument are you going to bring up Appalachian State?

Stay on topic you goon!

Who’s got it better than Michigan?

[jonmcd46]

The butt****ing happened when you hired Riley. Give frost time. You will never get back to 90s Nebraska. The landscape is different. But you can be Wisconsin or Iowa or whatever comparison you want to make that is better than right now.

lol, at least Riley never lost to colorado. Nebraska has done it 2 years in a row. Even Oregon State beat Colorado. You're a vagina for trying to stroke your rivals dick to make them feel better.

[AriGhold]

lol, at least Riley never lost to colorado. Nebraska has done it 2 years in a row. Even Oregon State beat Colorado. You're a vagina for trying to stroke your rivals dick to make them feel better.

Nebraska is a rival? See my posts on Michigan ITT. I’m sharing my beliefs that all hope isn’t lost for Nebraska. I have no ill will towards them and have an interest in them improving as a college football fan. Michigan, michigan st, and penn st can go 0-12 every year and I’d be thrilled.

[sloop]

Since the B1G has gone to divisions this is how Wisconsin has done against the Easts big 4:

2011 - Played PSU (sanctioned), OSU (sanctioned and interim coach), and MSU (twice) - Went 2-2
2012 - Played PSU, MSU, OSU - Went 0-3
2013 - Played OSU, PSU - Went 0-2
2014 - You played none of the good East teams until OSU in the championship. You lost. 0-1
2015 - You avoid all of the good East teams again, but don't make the championship.
2016 - You play MSU, UM, OSU, and PSU (in the championship). You go 1-3, only beating a 3-9 MSU.
2017 - You play UM and OSU (championship). You went 1-1 (beating an 8-5 UM)
2018 - You play UM and PSU. You went 0-2
2019 - You actually look like a really good team this season. Seems like the offense and defense are both looking really good.

That's 5-14 against PSU, OSU, MSU, and UM since the B1G has gone to divisions. If you break down those 5 wins you had:

Let's not forget that 2014 was the year OSU slaughtered Wisconsin with a 3rd string QB named Cardell Jones.

Just lmaooo

[Mumra]

If LSU loses to Alabama, that means they don't go to the SEC chip to play Georgia. That in itself rules them out of the playoffs.

only Bama can get away with not making it to the Conference Championship and still getting into the playoffs. not that they deserve it just that it would happen.

[Orlando1234977]

You beat average competition. That is how you got 100+ wins over the last decade. Your defense is good, yes. But lets not pretend like a fair amount of wins aren't due to being in the significantly inferior West. Nebraska benefits from that too, so it's not crazy to think they can abuse an easier schedule too if Scott Frost is as good as people think. The West is probably good for at least 2 extra wins per year.

Since the B1G has had divisions you've been pretty terrible against the big 4 in the East. That includes a time where UM was down, OSU had an interim coach and sanctions, and PSU had sanctions.

Out of conference during that span, you haven't been world beaters either. When they play decent or better teams they don't do great. They lost to an average LSU

W- 4-8 Notre Dame
W- 8-4 LSU
L- 8-5 LSU
L- Eventual national champ Bama.


Since the B1G has gone to divisions this is how Wisconsin has done against the Easts big 4:

2011 - Played PSU (sanctioned), OSU (sanctioned and interim coach), and MSU (twice) - Went 2-2
2012 - Played PSU, MSU, OSU - Went 0-3
2013 - Played OSU, PSU - Went 0-2
2014 - You played none of the good East teams until OSU in the championship. You lost. 0-1
2015 - You avoid all of the good East teams again, but don't make the championship.
2016 - You play MSU, UM, OSU, and PSU (in the championship). You go 1-3, only beating a 3-9 MSU.
2017 - You play UM and OSU (championship). You went 1-1 (beating an 8-5 UM)
2018 - You play UM and PSU. You went 0-2
2019 - You actually look like a really good team this season. Seems like the offense and defense are both looking really good.

That's 5-14 against PSU, OSU, MSU, and UM since the B1G has gone to divisions. If you break down those 5 wins you had:

1) 6-7 OSU in Luke Fickell's season in 2011
2) 11-3 MSU in the conference championship in 2011
3) 3-9 MSU in 2016
4) 8-5 UM in 2017
5) This years UM team, who looks pretty average.

So much wrong. Last time we played LSU we won on a neutral field. When did we play Notre Dame? Why didn't you include the slashing of Miami that was #1 just a few weeks prior? Among several other. Not sure you're tracking the same team. There's a reason we won over 25 more games than michigan over the last decade.

[Orlando1234977]

And outside of the BCS era...

0 National chips
0 Big10 Chips
0 Playoff Appearances

BCS era started in '98 and replaced in '14 by college football playoff.
Big Ten Championships at least 5 in the BCS era.
Try again rent free bandwagon.

[JMath]

So much wrong. Last time we played LSU we won on a neutral field. When did we play Notre Dame? Why didn't you include the slashing of Miami that was #1 just a few weeks prior? Among several other. Not sure you're tracking the same team. There's a reason we won over 25 more games than michigan over the last decade.

I'm not gonna act like I sat there for hours analyzing the whole thing. It's possible I missed a decent win, but I didn't even look for bad losses either.

-You did beat LSU on a neutral field... in LAMBO FIELD... so neutral!! Not sure why you mention that, since I gave you credit for that win.
-Two years before that, you lost to them on a neutral field. I gave you credit for that loss.
-I must have been smoking crack when I said you played ND... not sure where I got that. My bad. lol
-When did you slash Miami outside of a bowl game? The only Miami I see in your regular season schedule since the B1G went to divisions is Miami of Ohio. I guess if you want to take credit for that win... uhhh ok.

You are right about your last point though. There are multiple reasons you've won more games than us. UM digging out of the worst years in program history (Rich Rod). Hoke being bad while simultaneously going a complete different direction with the program identity. Then, most importantly your division being a who's who of who isn't.

If Harbaugh (who hasn't even been that good) was Michigan's coach for the last 10 years and they were in your division, they'd have as many or more wins. He has a .500 record against Wisconsin and that was after adopting a 5-7 program, and again seemingly not being the coach everyone thought he was. Since he has been at Michigan, Wisconsin has 2 more regular season wins than Michigan does...and at this point most people are saying Harbaugh has been a failure. But Wisconsin is great? Wisconsin has 2 more conference wins than Michigan since Harbaugh has taken over too. Since Wisconsin has a .263 win percentage against the big 4 in the East and probably right around a .500 record against good Power 5 teams, how are you gonna try telling me that being in the West isn't exactly why they have such a great record?

You get blessed with at least a 2 win advantage every year for being in the West. I notice you didn't even have an argument against your record against the big 4 in the East. Why is that? If you swap ANY of the big 4 in the East with Wisconsin in the West they have just as much success and Wisconsin doesn't finish higher than 2nd or 3rd in the East; essentially, you'd be Michigan (but with a better bowl record).

I'm NOT saying Wisconsin is bad though. I'm saying they have a huge advantage playing in a below average to bad division. With it being a bad division, there is no reason that if Scott Frost is as good as people say, that he too can't be as successful as you.

[HoustonMiscer]

BCS era started in '98 and replaced in '14 by college football playoff.
Big Ten Championships at least 5 in the BCS era.
Try again rent free bandwagon.

can wisconsin beat ohio state

[Mumra]

can wisconsin beat ohio state

if Purdue can almost anyone can.

[AriGhold]

if Purdue can almost anyone can.

Fields > Fromm

Thank you

[DeshaunWatson]

if Purdue can almost anyone can.

Bang!

[topperstyle]

Bang!

fsu defense coming for those tiger cheeks

not srs

[wildchild11]

Iowa by 45

[Mumra]

Fields > Fromm

Thank you

if that was the case he would have taken the job. but he couldn't so he cried "racism" and ran away to a place with literally no competition what so ever.

[JMath]

Iowa by 45

Honestly man... nothing would surprise me.

if that was the case he would have taken the job. but he couldn't so he cried "racism" and ran away to a place with literally no competition what so ever.

But... he transferred there when Tate Martell was still there, and Miami troll told me that Tate Martell was the second coming after he transferred to Miami!

[cncman]

dwayne haskins is horrible on his own like everyone knew

system

fields

[Tears]

Everyone is jumping on Auburn. Time to bet the farm on Florida.

[AriGhold]

if that was the case he would have taken the job. but he couldn't so he cried "racism" and ran away to a place with literally no competition what so ever.

Your salt levels are going to be off the charts come December