2019 CFB Chat Thread

[Mumra]

imo. it should be the 4 best conference winners. don't win the conference? to damn bad no playoff for you.

[TBO1313]

We will revisit on Sunday. While I think Utah is the better team, I think oklahoma gets in based on brand (assuming both teams take care of business in a similar fashion).

Agreed. Brand plays a huge role with the selection committee

[Komytea]

I think if both Utah and Oklahoma win in a similarly played game, Utah gets in.

no one wants utah to get in. i don't get how beating a lower ranked team is impressive and gains them the ability to beat any of the top 3 teams. we'll see tonight.


edit: to be clear, i don't think we could beat any of the top 3 teams.

[BFast55]

And this is why I hope Georgia beats LSU in a close game so that this isn't even a discussion. Every year the argument for having a Selection Committee is to put "the 4 best teams in". Yet they've routinely fukedup the selections.

Remember that time Ohio State lost in a fluke Ezekiel Elliott's last year, and they sent Michigan State in to get curbed stomped by Alabama? Then they tried to right that wrong by putting Ohio State in when they were questionable and Clemson blanked them?

Ohio State, and LSU are clearly the top two teams this year. Clemson should be in even with a poverty schedule as defending champs, and depending how Georgia plays, they could possibly be 4. If they play LSU hard all 4 quarters and keep the game within within 10 then they should get it. I don't want to see another complimentary playoff appearance gifted to a cutesy (garbage) underdog story just so they can chit themselves when the lights get turned on *cough* NOTRE DAME *cough*

Why should Georgia stay at #4 if they play it close? Remember they lost at home to South Carolina. IDK if they lose in quadruple overtime, keeping a 2 Loss GA team at #4 would be unfair to Utah and/or OU.

[AriGhold]

Why should Georgia stay at #4 if they play it close? Remember they lost at home to South Carolina. IDK if they lose in quadruple overtime, keeping a 2 Loss GA team at #4 would be unfair to Utah and/or OU.

Lol I didn’t even get to those last few lines. No chance a 2 loss, non conference champ Georgia gets in especially with that USC loss.

[W1LLW]

And this is why I hope Georgia beats LSU in a close game so that this isn't even a discussion.

Because no one reads opening statements.

[Orlando1234977]

imo. it should be the 4 best conference winners. don't win the conference? to damn bad no playoff for you.

Yep. The contrary argument for the "4 best teams" sounds good but is flawed since we/committee experts don't know who they are unless everyone plays about 50 more games that spans plenty of work against each conference. Selecting the 4 best conference champions may increase the risk of leaving out a "top 4", but also increases the opportunity to find the one best in the country, which is what a playoff bracket should be all about.

[Mumra]

Yep. The contrary argument for the "4 best teams" sounds good but is flawed since we/committee experts don't know who they are unless everyone plays about 50 more games that spans plenty of work against each conference. Selecting the 4 best conference champions may increase the risk of leaving out a "top 4", but also increases the opportunity to find the one best in the country, which is what a playoff bracket should be all about.

and sometimes the "best team" doesn't win that game even though they may 9 out of 10 played.

[W1LLW]

Best proposition I’ve seen is to take conference champs from power 5, then slide a wild card in at 6.

Would still get people bitching about the 6th spot though because it’d almost always get filled with a second SEC team rather than a poverty UCF/western Michigan hopeful.

[JMath]

And this is why I hope Georgia beats LSU in a close game so that this isn't even a discussion. Every year the argument for having a Selection Committee is to put "the 4 best teams in". Yet they've routinely fukedup the selections.

Remember that time Ohio State lost in a fluke Ezekiel Elliott's last year, and they sent Michigan State in to get curbed stomped by Alabama? Then they tried to right that wrong by putting Ohio State in when they were questionable and Clemson blanked them?

Ohio State, and LSU are clearly the top two teams this year. Clemson should be in even with a poverty schedule as defending champs, and depending how Georgia plays, they could possibly be 4. If they play LSU hard all 4 quarters and keep the game within within 10 then they should get it. I don't want to see another complimentary playoff appearance gifted to a cutesy (garbage) underdog story just so they can chit themselves when the lights get turned on *cough* NOTRE DAME *cough*

If Georgia loses, they shouldn't be in. If Georgia loses we KNOW for a fact they're not the best team in the country. Utah, Oklahoma, Baylor.... we are 99% sure they aren't either, but they at least should get the chance to get thumped too. lol.

To me the point of the playoff is to find who the single best team in the nation is (obviously). So outside of a more objective process, that process of deciding who the best team in the country is, should start with the actual selection of the teams in the playoff. If you have no argument of "they could be the best team" you shouldn't be in, unless there is no other option. Utah, Baylor, Oklahoma... they all fall into the "almost positive they're not" the best team in the country category. UGA losing to LSU at this point would put them into the "undeniably not" the best category.

imo. it should be the 4 best conference winners. don't win the conference? to damn bad no playoff for you.

I agree it should be more objective. Earning it via an actual identifiable path seems better than a group of people subjectively deciding who they think is the best.

I just wanna see more college football, so I would love an 8 team playoff. Power 5 conference winners. Group of 5 winner (with stipulations). Then have some sort of multi part process to pick the at-large teams (BCS style rankings, plus committee, plus AP poll, plus coaches poll, average them out, highest score is in type of thing.)

Best proposition I’ve seen is to take conference champs from power 5, then slide a wild card in at 6.

Would still get people bitching about the 6th spot though because it’d almost always get filled with a second SEC team rather than a poverty UCF/western Michigan hopeful.

If they do 6, they have to just make it 8. To me there would be just as much complaining about who got 2 instead of 3, because the bye would be so freaking valuable. Especially if you take an approach that some people proposed, which was including home field advantage for the first round or whatever.

May as well make it 8. You get 2 extra games. You could basically include multiple systems to determine who were the final seeds, so no singular bias would determine it.

[Orlando1234977]

The real boss would be to merge into four power conferences with the Champ of each going in. Basically dismantle one entire conference and sell the parts to the remaining four. But most realistic would be the 8 team idea with 3 hand picked at-large.

[Baylorballs]

Oregon looking good early on Defense... also their cheerleaders might be #1 ranked in the nation. Premium talent. damn....this is like softcore porn

[JMath]

Oregon making it easy on the committee.

[Orlando1234977]

Go ducks..this is great. remove the pac.

[Orlando1234977]

Oregon making it easy on the committee.

If this is the only upset it'll be real simple. If not, chaos.

[JMath]

If this is the only upset it'll be real simple. If not, chaos.

I wonder how any of the other upsets would impact the playoff.

OSU might be able to lose and still be top 4. LSU can definitely, just given who they’re playing. Clemson would likely be out. But I’m not sure if they’d put a recent loss 1 loss team over 2 loss teams?

Inb4 Alabama is in. Lol.

[Orlando1234977]

I wonder how any of the other upsets would impact the playoff.

OSU might be able to lose and still be top 4. LSU can definitely, just given who they’re playing. Clemson would likely be out. But I’m not sure if they’d put a recent loss 1 loss team over 2 loss teams?

Inb4 Alabama is in. Lol.

I tend to agree with fivethirtyeight that shows if any favorite loses, they're under 50% (%'s assuming Oregon holds on):

Clemson down to 35%
OSU down to 42%
LSU down to 22%
Oklahoma down to 0%

There will be 5 power conference Champions.

[W1LLW]

When you're currently located in the UK, the Joshua vs Ruiz rematch is scheduled to start at 8:30pm and the SEC Championship starts at 9:00pm...

EDIT: Just realized Utah lost to Oregon. lulzzzzzzzz. "muh representation", "i know oklahoma is better but i'd like to see utah in the playoff", just lol.

[Orlando1234977]

Pretty good games as we all wait for the featured show. Oklahoma brought it in ot.

[Swept]

OU vs OSU, Clemson vs LSU

[DeshaunWatson]

OU vs OSU, Clemson vs LSU

National title game:
Clemson vs OSU

[Tears]

I think that's game.

[DeshaunWatson]

That’ll do it

[JMath]

So OSU should be #1 based on eye test.
LSU should be one based on resume.

Curious to see who the committee will pick.

[DeathUponUs]

LSU easily in national title game. dominance

[Swept]

I feel bad for the team that drafts Fromm

[W1LLW]

Well LSU and Oklahoma couldn’t have made it easier for the committee. Final 4 selected

[Tears]

Well LSU and Oregon couldn’t have made it easier for the committee. Final 4 selected

Fixed that 4 u, but yeah.

[tng83]

National title game:
Clemson vs OSU

Impossible since that's a playoff matchup.

[wildchild11]

Georgia sucks