2019 CFB Chat Thread

[Lunatic]

And Georgia should be? Imagine putting OSU in the top 4 following some of those losses to unranked teams over the past few years...

None of it matters, it will all settle itself. Teams 4-9 haven’t separated themselves. The only ranking that does matter is oklahoma at 10. I don’t see a route for them to get back in the mix unless there is absolute chaos.

Nope, I don't think UGA or Bama should be ranked where they currently are, but I sure as **** will bring it up to all of the butthurt people that bitch about the SEC.

You never know. Could be like 2007 again.

[JMath]

I kind of feel like this was a cop out by the committee. They know they wanted Bama at 4. Probably should be there. They’re better than UGA. But they knew if they put them at 5 UGA will likely lose, so they can move Bama in after that.

And Georgia should be? Imagine putting OSU in the top 4 following some of those losses to unranked teams over the past few years...

None of it matters, it will all settle itself. Teams 4-9 haven’t separated themselves. The only ranking that does matter is oklahoma at 10. I don’t see a route for them to get back in the mix unless there is absolute chaos.

I think Oklahoma pretty much just needs what everyone else in that pack needs. 3 of the teams ahead of them are practically guaranteed at least 1 more loss this season (UGA, Minnesota, and Utah/Oregon)

Assuming LSU, OSU, Clemson all win out. Bama will be the problem. If Oklahoma wins out and looks good doing it they will absolutely jump 1 loss PSU. They’ll jump them if they beat Baylor this week.

Then at seasons end you’d have:
Bama (1 loss no conference championship)
Oregon/Utah (1 loss conf champ)
OU (1 loss conf champ)

The most likely outcome is just that the teams I mentioned have their losses, then Bama slips into 4 as soon as UGA loses next and they stay there. 5/6 will be PAC 10 winner and OU interchangeably. Who knows though... as good as OU looked early in the year, they don’t seem as scary now. They could very well lose another game and completely run their chances at the playoff.

[DeshaunWatson]

UGA at 4 is mind boggling. Lost at home to a team that just lost to App fucking State.

[JMath]

UGA at 4 is mind boggling. Lost at home to a team that just lost to App fucking State.

It’s just the committees way of putting Bama at 4 without putting them at 4. UGA gets to be at 4, if they win this weekend they can say “see, they actually are good” then LSU can mollywhop them in the SEC Championship and Bama can move to 4. Bama should probably just be 4. If they had put Oregon or Utah there, and they ended up winning their conference, they’d have a real hard time explaining why Bama then jumped them for the last spot in the playoff.

But I don’t know. I think Bama is probably a top 4 team. To me it right now seems like LSU, OSU, Clemson, and Bama are the best 4 teams in the country. Just sucks that a slip up by either OSU or Clemson very likely could mean they’re out. I don’t know how much margin of error they’re getting like Bama and evidently UGA are getting.

[Orlando1234977]

It's ok, as long as they lose by less than 59 points they'll have done better than Wisconsin.

We also put up 70 one year in the Championship, dopey. And even with a two game lead, I still doubt your lil gophers finally make it.

[Baylorballs]

If Oregon hadn't lost to Auburn they would have a shot at it and if USC had the same record and schedule as Utah they'd probably get in. The blue bloods always get preferential treatment and they'll leave Utah out. No way they get in ahead of a 1 loss Oklahoma or Alabama

Heavily disagree with this. If Utah goes 12-1 and wins their conference champ game, and committee puts Bama in W/O winning their conference?? total trash and would damn near destroy the system.

UTah and Oregon are ranked that high because they've looked dominant in several games. Not ever one, but they have smashed several teams.

Baylor for example, we're 9-0 but have looked like garbage in 3 or 4 of those games, including Rice. We are about right, ranked as # 13, and on a neutral field we would have trouble beating most of the teams ahead of us... except Oklahoma this saturday of course! take those +10 points to the bank!

[Baylorballs]

And Georgia should be? Imagine putting OSU in the top 4 following some of those losses to unranked teams over the past few years...

None of it matters, it will all settle itself. Teams 4-9 haven’t separated themselves. The only ranking that does matter is oklahoma at 10. I don’t see a route for them to get back in the mix unless there is absolute chaos.

Oklahoma's Defense is again a total hot mess. I only watched the 2nd half vs. Iowa state , and they were playing 2 hand touch almost.

If OU were to some how smash Baylor this weekend like 63- 14, then beat up TCU and Okie lite by 30 as well, and Baylor again in the conf. champ game... they have a legit case to get in.

Remember, Kstate beat OU, and pushed around a middle-weight SEC team at the beginning of the year. SEC can't have it both ways

[Mumra]

Heavily disagree with this. If Utah goes 12-1 and wins their conference champ game, and committee puts Bama in W/O winning their conference?? total trash and would damn near destroy the system.

sad part is it can totally happen. without enough teams going undefeated it's almost a lock that Bama will get in. they'd have to lose at least 2 and have enough 1 loss or no loss teams ahead of them to miss out.

I don't agree with it at all but that's the way it is.

[TBO1313]

Heavily disagree with this. If Utah goes 12-1 and wins their conference champ game, and committee puts Bama in W/O winning their conference?? total trash and would damn near destroy the system.

UTah and Oregon are ranked that high because they've looked dominant in several games. Not ever one, but they have smashed several teams.

Baylor for example, we're 9-0 but have looked like garbage in 3 or 4 of those games, including Rice. We are about right, ranked as # 13, and on a neutral field we would have trouble beating most of the teams ahead of us... except Oklahoma this saturday of course! take those +10 points to the bank!

I'm not saying its right. I think that a 1 loss conference champ should get in over a 1 loss non champ but I guarantee Oklahoma or Alabama will get in over Utah if all 3 win out

[DeshaunWatson]

I'm not saying its right. I think that a 1 loss conference champ should get in over a 1 loss non champ but I guarantee Oklahoma or Alabama will get in over Utah if all 3 win out

If Alabama gets in over a 1 loss pac12 champ & 1 loss B12 champ, there will be riots.

[AriGhold]

If Alabama gets in over a 1 loss pac12 champ & 1 loss B12 champ, there will be riots.

Why? What value are conference championships of **** conferences? That’s like bragging about your ACC titles... it’s meaningless.

[GING3R]

I haven't posted in awhile but as an LSU fan I want nothing to do with Alabama AGAIN.

Imagine beating Texas, Florida, Auburn, Alabama, Georgia to get to the playoffs.

Now imagine the team you beat has only beaten 1/5 of those teams.

Now imagine the team you beat gets an extra week off.

Now imagine you are forced to play that team in a winner take all.

What's the incentive for even playing regular season games or conference championship games if we're not going to include a PAC-12 champion Oregon or BIG-12 champion Oklahoma over Alabama?

[DanielleGreen]

Am I reading this right? You’re saying ANY of the current top 4 could lose this weekend? If so.... man.

Ohio State - Rutgers (OSU is a 52.5 point favorite)
LSU - Ole Miss

I don’t see either of those two upsets happening. Frankly I don’t see Clemson losing to Wake Forest either, but out of the 3 we know that’ll be in the top 4, I guess I’d say that game was most likely to have an upset. They’re still 34.5 point favorites too though.

He also said Bama lost on purpose so...

Clemson almost lost to UNC anything can happen. Not saying it will, but come on. All it takes are a couple of freak plays and boom.

[TBO1313]

If Alabama gets in over a 1 loss pac12 champ & 1 loss B12 champ, there will be riots.

Depends on who if the Pac12 or B12 champ is a blue blood. They won't get in over a 1 loss Oklahoma that wins the B12 but they will get in over a 1 loss Utah that wins the Pac

[AriGhold]

A lot of dumb posts the last few pages ITT.


FYI chase young will be back for penn st. Good luck...

[Mumra]

you should have to win your conference to go to the playoff. otherwise what's the point of having conferences? you're in a "Power 5" so just schedule as many cupcakes as possible to give yourself the best chance to go undefeated. do that and you're in.

unless you're Bama' then you're in anyways.

[DeshaunWatson]

Why? What value are conference championships of **** conferences? That’s like bragging about your ACC titles... it’s meaningless.

Tcu got jumped by ohio state due to not having a conference championship.(you lost to big bad VT AT HOME from the ACC that year) Committee said they penalized them for that reason. Big 12 created a conference championship game because of that.



With that, a pac 12 champ or big 12 champ will 100% have a better resume than Bama.

[YoungMetro24]

We also put up 70 one year in the Championship, dopey. And even with a two game lead, I still doubt your lil gophers finally make it.

I am not a Gophers fan. How dumb are you?

[Lunatic]

I haven't posted in awhile but as an LSU fan I want nothing to do with Alabama AGAIN.

Imagine beating Texas, Florida, Auburn, Alabama, Georgia to get to the playoffs.

Now imagine the team you beat has only beaten 1/5 of those teams.

Now imagine the team you beat gets an extra week off.

Now imagine you are forced to play that team in a winner take all.

What's the incentive for even playing regular season games or conference championship games if we're not going to include a PAC-12 champion Oregon or BIG-12 champion Oklahoma over Alabama?

Same about Bama lol. Saban wanting revenge = no bueno

I mean the purpose of the playoff is for the 4 best teams to get in. I think that should be regardless of conference. Bama keeps getting in because they keep having one of the best teams in the country. I'd prefer them to be ranked 6+ instead of 5 but it is what it is. No system will ever make everyone happy.

[TBO1313]

Tcu got jumped by ohio state due to not having a conference championship.(you lost to big bad VT AT HOME from the ACC that year) Committee said they penalized them for that reason. Big 12 created a conference championship game because of that.



With that, a pac 12 champ or big 12 champ will 100% have a better resume than Bama.

TCU got jumped because they are TCU. Oklahoma or Texas would not have been.

They'll make up whatever excuses they need to but Bama will get in. I've been watching the Bamas, Notre Dames, Oklahomas and USCs of the world get preferential treatment in officiating and bowl game placement my whole life and doubt it will change anytime soon

[Orlando1234977]

I am not a Gophers fan. How dumb are you?

You always seem to have such a difficult time keeping your web of lies in order.

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[YoungMetro24]

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[tng83]

I’m sure he knows that all they have to do is win out (beat a below 500 MSU, a 3-7 West Carolina team, and Auburn) and he will likely be in. So I doubt he’s stressed at all about the position he’s in, but he definitely would rather be in LSU’s position.

Bama needs more than wins. They have to win out, have LSU beat Georgia, and hope Oklahoma loses.

If Ga beats LSU itll be 3 Georgia 4 LSU with Bama out. If Oklahoma wins out theyll have 4 wins vs top 25 teams and a Big 12 title. Hell, if Oregon beats Utah theyll be pac 12 champs with one loss and a top 10 win. Alabama needs help.

[Baylorballs]

Bama needs more than wins. They have to win out, have LSU beat Georgia, and hope Oklahoma loses.

If Ga beats LSU itll be 3 Georgia 4 LSU with Bama out. If Oklahoma wins out theyll have 4 wins vs top 25 teams and a Big 12 title. Hell, if Oregon beats Utah theyll be pac 12 champs with one loss and a top 10 win. Alabama needs help.

Yeah will be pretty awesome how this all plays out.

1 Ohio state probably a 85 -90 % chance to make playoff
2. Clemson, propaby 98% to make playoff
3. LSU probably 70-80% ( aggie game... remember last year's crazy over time game. .. just saying...) and Georgia in champ. game

and then # 4..... Big 12 and Pac 12 to fight it out for the spot....

Bama is in big trouble, unless they beat Auburn by 42 points.

[Mumra]

you guys are forgetting the "because Bama" factor.

[AriGhold]

you guys are forgetting the "because Bama" factor.

Come on. Your squad is ranked 4th following an ugly loss to south Carolina and generally looking unimpressive all season. The only factor at play is SEC bias. I guess that “it just means more” tag line doesn’t apply to losses against teams who about to fire their coach.

[Mumra]

Come on. Your squad is ranked 4th following an ugly loss to south Carolina and generally looking unimpressive all season. The only factor at play is SEC bias. I guess that “it just means more” tag line doesn’t apply to losses against teams who about to fire their coach.

UGA being 4 has lesss to do with UGA being good and more with the rest not being as good.

everyone below them also has a loss if not 2. Oregon lost to AU(they have 2 losses), Penn St lost to Minn(unranked at the time), Utah lost to USC(unranked) and Okla lost to unranked Kansas St.

[AriGhold]

UGA being 4 has lesss to do with UGA being good and more with the rest not being as good.

everyone below them also has a loss if not 2. Oregon lost to AU(they have 2 losses), Penn St lost to Minn(unranked at the time), Utah lost to USC(unranked) and Okla lost to unranked Kansas St.

And I’m not complaining that Georgia being at 4 is a problem. I understand what you are saying. But can you not apply that same logic to understand why Alabama isn’t out of it yet?

Also, Minnesota was not unranked last week when they beat penn st.

[Mumra]

there is no logic to Bama being in it but they are because they(and UGA for that matter) have been in this exact same position before and made it.

[JMath]

Bama needs more than wins. They have to win out, have LSU beat Georgia, and hope Oklahoma loses.

If Ga beats LSU itll be 3 Georgia 4 LSU with Bama out. If Oklahoma wins out theyll have 4 wins vs top 25 teams and a Big 12 title. Hell, if Oregon beats Utah theyll be pac 12 champs with one loss and a top 10 win. Alabama needs help.

I think Oklahoma needs far more help than Bama does.

I don't think the Big 12 winner gets in ahead of a 1 loss Alabama, or a 1 loss Pac Champion. The committee obviously has very little respect for the conference as a whole. Oklahoma is at 10 (the lowest of the 1 loss teams) and Baylor, who is undefeated, is behind two 2 loss SEC teams and ranked 13.

My guess is if OU looks decent beating Baylor this weekend, they'll jump past PSU and maybe 1 of the Pac 10 teams (probably Utah). They need Auburn to upset Georgia and Iowa to beat Minnesota; both of which are possible. Then they will probably be 6 (maybe 5), if there are no other upsets.

there is no logic to Bama being in it but they are because they(and UGA for that matter) have been in this exact same position before and made it.

The logic behind putting Bama in is basically that is a lifetime achievement award. For over a decade Bama has been dominant. They've looked really good pretty much every time this year, but their schedule couldn't have played out much easier than it was. So basically people are left wondering "well is this still the really good/dominant Bama? I don't know.... lets just put them in and find out. They only have 1 loss against the top team anyway."