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    Originally Posted by IronCharles View Post
    If Oregon and Utah both win out, it will set up a Pac 12 championship game between top 6 teams. It would be really hard to leave the winner out of the playoff discussion.
    If Oregon hadn't lost to Auburn they would have a shot at it and if USC had the same record and schedule as Utah they'd probably get in. The blue bloods always get preferential treatment and they'll leave Utah out. No way they get in ahead of a 1 loss Oklahoma or Alabama
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    Originally Posted by JMath View Post
    1) There’s no way he intentionally lost. He knows college football can be crazy, and if the chips fall a certain way, they could be left out. Not to mention the possibility of another freak kick six and having no chance at the playoff. Plus, he’s way to competitive and wouldn’t leave it in the committees hands like that.
    Any of the top 4 teams could lose on Saturday.. We all know Bama will be in the playoff because the committee loves ratings and money. Bama brings both.
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    Originally Posted by DanielleGreen View Post
    Any of the top 4 teams could lose on Saturday.. We all know Bama will be in the playoff because the committee loves ratings and money. Bama brings both.
    They also bring a proven track record of success and performance in big games. The committee is tasked to find the 4 best teams in football and it’s existence is supported by high ratings. If two teams are very similar on paper they are going to get the benefit of the doubt, and rightfully so.
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    Originally Posted by DanielleGreen View Post
    Any of the top 4 teams could lose on Saturday.. We all know Bama will be in the playoff because the committee loves ratings and money. Bama brings both.
    Am I reading this right? You’re saying ANY of the current top 4 could lose this weekend? If so.... man.

    Ohio State - Rutgers (OSU is a 52.5 point favorite)
    LSU - Ole Miss

    I don’t see either of those two upsets happening. Frankly I don’t see Clemson losing to Wake Forest either, but out of the 3 we know that’ll be in the top 4, I guess I’d say that game was most likely to have an upset. They’re still 34.5 point favorites too though.
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    Originally Posted by JMath View Post
    Am I reading this right? You’re saying ANY of the current top 4 could lose this weekend? If so.... man.

    Ohio State - Rutgers (OSU is a 52.5 point favorite)
    LSU - Ole Miss

    I don’t see either of those two upsets happening. Frankly I don’t see Clemson losing to Wake Forest either, but out of the 3 we know that’ll be in the top 4, I guess I’d say that game was most likely to have an upset. They’re still 34.5 point favorites too though.
    He also said Bama lost on purpose so...
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    1. LSU
    2. OSU
    3. Clemson
    4. UGA
    5. Bama
    6. Oregon
    7. Utah
    8. Minnesota
    9. PSU
    10. OU


    Bama absolutely should be out of the top 4 because of them losing at home, embarrassed in the first half, and time at which they lost.



    3 SEC teams in the top 5 lmao
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    Originally Posted by Lunatic View Post
    1. LSU
    2. OSU
    3. Clemson
    4. UGA
    5. Bama
    6. Oregon
    7. Utah
    8. Minnesota
    9. PSU
    10. OU


    Bama absolutely should be out of the top 4 because of them losing at home, embarrassed in the first half, and time at which they lost.



    3 SEC teams in the top 5 lmao
    And Georgia should be? Imagine putting OSU in the top 4 following some of those losses to unranked teams over the past few years...

    None of it matters, it will all settle itself. Teams 4-9 haven’t separated themselves. The only ranking that does matter is oklahoma at 10. I don’t see a route for them to get back in the mix unless there is absolute chaos.
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    And Georgia should be? Imagine putting OSU in the top 4 following some of those losses to unranked teams over the past few years...

    None of it matters, it will all settle itself. Teams 4-9 haven’t separated themselves. The only ranking that does matter is oklahoma at 10. I don’t see a route for them to get back in the mix unless there is absolute chaos.
    Nope, I don't think UGA or Bama should be ranked where they currently are, but I sure as **** will bring it up to all of the butthurt people that bitch about the SEC.

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    I kind of feel like this was a cop out by the committee. They know they wanted Bama at 4. Probably should be there. They’re better than UGA. But they knew if they put them at 5 UGA will likely lose, so they can move Bama in after that.

    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    And Georgia should be? Imagine putting OSU in the top 4 following some of those losses to unranked teams over the past few years...

    None of it matters, it will all settle itself. Teams 4-9 haven’t separated themselves. The only ranking that does matter is oklahoma at 10. I don’t see a route for them to get back in the mix unless there is absolute chaos.
    I think Oklahoma pretty much just needs what everyone else in that pack needs. 3 of the teams ahead of them are practically guaranteed at least 1 more loss this season (UGA, Minnesota, and Utah/Oregon)

    Assuming LSU, OSU, Clemson all win out. Bama will be the problem. If Oklahoma wins out and looks good doing it they will absolutely jump 1 loss PSU. They’ll jump them if they beat Baylor this week.

    Then at seasons end you’d have:
    Bama (1 loss no conference championship)
    Oregon/Utah (1 loss conf champ)
    OU (1 loss conf champ)

    The most likely outcome is just that the teams I mentioned have their losses, then Bama slips into 4 as soon as UGA loses next and they stay there. 5/6 will be PAC 10 winner and OU interchangeably. Who knows though... as good as OU looked early in the year, they don’t seem as scary now. They could very well lose another game and completely run their chances at the playoff.
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    UGA at 4 is mind boggling. Lost at home to a team that just lost to App fucking State.
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    Originally Posted by DeshaunWatson View Post
    UGA at 4 is mind boggling. Lost at home to a team that just lost to App fucking State.
    It’s just the committees way of putting Bama at 4 without putting them at 4. UGA gets to be at 4, if they win this weekend they can say “see, they actually are good” then LSU can mollywhop them in the SEC Championship and Bama can move to 4. Bama should probably just be 4. If they had put Oregon or Utah there, and they ended up winning their conference, they’d have a real hard time explaining why Bama then jumped them for the last spot in the playoff.

    But I don’t know. I think Bama is probably a top 4 team. To me it right now seems like LSU, OSU, Clemson, and Bama are the best 4 teams in the country. Just sucks that a slip up by either OSU or Clemson very likely could mean they’re out. I don’t know how much margin of error they’re getting like Bama and evidently UGA are getting.
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    It's ok, as long as they lose by less than 59 points they'll have done better than Wisconsin.
    We also put up 70 one year in the Championship, dopey. And even with a two game lead, I still doubt your lil gophers finally make it.
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    If Oregon hadn't lost to Auburn they would have a shot at it and if USC had the same record and schedule as Utah they'd probably get in. The blue bloods always get preferential treatment and they'll leave Utah out. No way they get in ahead of a 1 loss Oklahoma or Alabama
    Heavily disagree with this. If Utah goes 12-1 and wins their conference champ game, and committee puts Bama in W/O winning their conference?? total trash and would damn near destroy the system.

    UTah and Oregon are ranked that high because they've looked dominant in several games. Not ever one, but they have smashed several teams.

    Baylor for example, we're 9-0 but have looked like garbage in 3 or 4 of those games, including Rice. We are about right, ranked as # 13, and on a neutral field we would have trouble beating most of the teams ahead of us... except Oklahoma this saturday of course! take those +10 points to the bank!
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    And Georgia should be? Imagine putting OSU in the top 4 following some of those losses to unranked teams over the past few years...

    None of it matters, it will all settle itself. Teams 4-9 haven’t separated themselves. The only ranking that does matter is oklahoma at 10. I don’t see a route for them to get back in the mix unless there is absolute chaos.
    Oklahoma's Defense is again a total hot mess. I only watched the 2nd half vs. Iowa state , and they were playing 2 hand touch almost.

    If OU were to some how smash Baylor this weekend like 63- 14, then beat up TCU and Okie lite by 30 as well, and Baylor again in the conf. champ game... they have a legit case to get in.

    Remember, Kstate beat OU, and pushed around a middle-weight SEC team at the beginning of the year. SEC can't have it both ways
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    Heavily disagree with this. If Utah goes 12-1 and wins their conference champ game, and committee puts Bama in W/O winning their conference?? total trash and would damn near destroy the system.
    sad part is it can totally happen. without enough teams going undefeated it's almost a lock that Bama will get in. they'd have to lose at least 2 and have enough 1 loss or no loss teams ahead of them to miss out.

    I don't agree with it at all but that's the way it is.
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    Originally Posted by Baylorballs View Post
    Heavily disagree with this. If Utah goes 12-1 and wins their conference champ game, and committee puts Bama in W/O winning their conference?? total trash and would damn near destroy the system.

    UTah and Oregon are ranked that high because they've looked dominant in several games. Not ever one, but they have smashed several teams.

    Baylor for example, we're 9-0 but have looked like garbage in 3 or 4 of those games, including Rice. We are about right, ranked as # 13, and on a neutral field we would have trouble beating most of the teams ahead of us... except Oklahoma this saturday of course! take those +10 points to the bank!
    I'm not saying its right. I think that a 1 loss conference champ should get in over a 1 loss non champ but I guarantee Oklahoma or Alabama will get in over Utah if all 3 win out
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    I'm not saying its right. I think that a 1 loss conference champ should get in over a 1 loss non champ but I guarantee Oklahoma or Alabama will get in over Utah if all 3 win out


    If Alabama gets in over a 1 loss pac12 champ & 1 loss B12 champ, there will be riots.
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    If Alabama gets in over a 1 loss pac12 champ & 1 loss B12 champ, there will be riots.
    Why? What value are conference championships of **** conferences? That’s like bragging about your ACC titles... it’s meaningless.
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    I haven't posted in awhile but as an LSU fan I want nothing to do with Alabama AGAIN.

    Imagine beating Texas, Florida, Auburn, Alabama, Georgia to get to the playoffs.

    Now imagine the team you beat has only beaten 1/5 of those teams.

    Now imagine the team you beat gets an extra week off.

    Now imagine you are forced to play that team in a winner take all.

    What's the incentive for even playing regular season games or conference championship games if we're not going to include a PAC-12 champion Oregon or BIG-12 champion Oklahoma over Alabama?
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    Originally Posted by JMath View Post
    Am I reading this right? You’re saying ANY of the current top 4 could lose this weekend? If so.... man.

    Ohio State - Rutgers (OSU is a 52.5 point favorite)
    LSU - Ole Miss

    I don’t see either of those two upsets happening. Frankly I don’t see Clemson losing to Wake Forest either, but out of the 3 we know that’ll be in the top 4, I guess I’d say that game was most likely to have an upset. They’re still 34.5 point favorites too though.
    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    He also said Bama lost on purpose so...
    Clemson almost lost to UNC anything can happen. Not saying it will, but come on. All it takes are a couple of freak plays and boom.
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    Originally Posted by DeshaunWatson View Post
    If Alabama gets in over a 1 loss pac12 champ & 1 loss B12 champ, there will be riots.
    Depends on who if the Pac12 or B12 champ is a blue blood. They won't get in over a 1 loss Oklahoma that wins the B12 but they will get in over a 1 loss Utah that wins the Pac
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    you should have to win your conference to go to the playoff. otherwise what's the point of having conferences? you're in a "Power 5" so just schedule as many cupcakes as possible to give yourself the best chance to go undefeated. do that and you're in.

    unless you're Bama' then you're in anyways.
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    Originally Posted by AriGhold View Post
    Why? What value are conference championships of **** conferences? That’s like bragging about your ACC titles... it’s meaningless.
    Tcu got jumped by ohio state due to not having a conference championship.(you lost to big bad VT AT HOME from the ACC that year) Committee said they penalized them for that reason. Big 12 created a conference championship game because of that.



    With that, a pac 12 champ or big 12 champ will 100% have a better resume than Bama.
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    Originally Posted by Orlando1234977 View Post
    We also put up 70 one year in the Championship, dopey. And even with a two game lead, I still doubt your lil gophers finally make it.
    I am not a Gophers fan. How dumb are you?
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    Originally Posted by GING3R View Post
    I haven't posted in awhile but as an LSU fan I want nothing to do with Alabama AGAIN.

    Imagine beating Texas, Florida, Auburn, Alabama, Georgia to get to the playoffs.

    Now imagine the team you beat has only beaten 1/5 of those teams.

    Now imagine the team you beat gets an extra week off.

    Now imagine you are forced to play that team in a winner take all.

    What's the incentive for even playing regular season games or conference championship games if we're not going to include a PAC-12 champion Oregon or BIG-12 champion Oklahoma over Alabama?
    Same about Bama lol. Saban wanting revenge = no bueno

    I mean the purpose of the playoff is for the 4 best teams to get in. I think that should be regardless of conference. Bama keeps getting in because they keep having one of the best teams in the country. I'd prefer them to be ranked 6+ instead of 5 but it is what it is. No system will ever make everyone happy.
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    Originally Posted by DeshaunWatson View Post
    Tcu got jumped by ohio state due to not having a conference championship.(you lost to big bad VT AT HOME from the ACC that year) Committee said they penalized them for that reason. Big 12 created a conference championship game because of that.



    With that, a pac 12 champ or big 12 champ will 100% have a better resume than Bama.
    TCU got jumped because they are TCU. Oklahoma or Texas would not have been.

    They'll make up whatever excuses they need to but Bama will get in. I've been watching the Bamas, Notre Dames, Oklahomas and USCs of the world get preferential treatment in officiating and bowl game placement my whole life and doubt it will change anytime soon
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    Originally Posted by YoungMetro24 View Post
    I am not a Gophers fan. How dumb are you?
    You always seem to have such a difficult time keeping your web of lies in order.

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    Originally Posted by Orlando1234977 View Post
    You always seem to have such a difficult time keeping your web of lies in order.

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    I'm a fan of whichever team beats Wisconsin. Understanding context is key. Your inability to do so is yet another reason to bet against the University of Wisconsin, its football team, and its alums. It has consistently proven to be a VERY +EV play long-term.
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    Originally Posted by JMath View Post
    I’m sure he knows that all they have to do is win out (beat a below 500 MSU, a 3-7 West Carolina team, and Auburn) and he will likely be in. So I doubt he’s stressed at all about the position he’s in, but he definitely would rather be in LSU’s position.
    Bama needs more than wins. They have to win out, have LSU beat Georgia, and hope Oklahoma loses.

    If Ga beats LSU itll be 3 Georgia 4 LSU with Bama out. If Oklahoma wins out theyll have 4 wins vs top 25 teams and a Big 12 title. Hell, if Oregon beats Utah theyll be pac 12 champs with one loss and a top 10 win. Alabama needs help.
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