Fierce 5 without training Legs?

[OnePoundFish00]

Will it be effective in terms of size / strength gains for upper body? I don't really care about training legs as I am satisfied with their size dont' want them to get bigger.
Can I just do the fierce 5 program (Full body novice program) without squats or front squat and still get good gains.

[Sweetums6000]

Here we go again

[Squid24]

Hmmmmmm???

You do any and all programs as written.

If your legs are perfect for you, then lift lighter weights, but that really isn't how the program is designed.

[Squid24]

Will it be effective in terms of size / strength gains for upper body? I don't really care about training legs as I am satisfied with their size dont' want them to get bigger.
Can I just do the fierce 5 program (Full body novice program) without squats or front squat and still get good gains.

Pro TIP



You can do this...

[OnePoundFish00]

Here we go again

What do you mean bro xD what's wrong with skipping leg day? chicken legs, but I don't have that! so nothing wrong right?

[LactoseTolerant]

Here we go again....

[RnK52]

Upload pic of those tree trunks

[RedRusty]

You're not going to get a lot of support around these parts for skipping leg day, regardless of your current physique. Just saying.

[Sweetums6000]

What do you mean bro xD what's wrong with skipping leg day? chicken legs, but I don't have that! so nothing wrong right?

Just once I’d like to see a thread from someone who doesn’t want to train his arms because they’re already so big.

[WolfRose7]

Just once I’d like to see a thread from someone who doesn’t want to train his arms because they’re already so big.

from carrying shopping right? or would that be forearms being too big?

What about my chest being too big from push ups... that's a serious problem right bro

[ZoranM]

Can I just do the fierce 5 program (Full body novice program) without squats or front squat and still get good gains.

Sure, why not. Ppl do all sorts of cr*p without training legs and still get results. Here at least you have a good exercise selection and some structure and planning.

[OnePoundFish00]

None of these replies are actually responding the question and are just mocking me
I am just going to try it and see how it goes. If I fail to progress I might start squatting but I'll see.

[NinaB55]

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...5909521&page=1

OP’s picture is attached to the thread.

Link showing thread started by OP 6 months ago regarding his legs.

[LactoseTolerant]

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...5909521&page=1

OP’s picture is attached to the thread.

Link showing thread started by OP 6 months ago regarding his legs.

Powerful, muscular legs those are. OP, do the squats.

[OnePoundFish00]

Powerful, muscular legs those are. OP, do the squats.

yes in that thread I was talking about how they are bigger in proportion to my upper body, which is still the case now just that I am bigger overall. That's why I want to take out squats from the routine, to even things out.

[LactoseTolerant]

yes in that thread I was talking about how they are bigger in proportion to my upper body, which is still the case now just that I am bigger overall. That's why I want to take out squats from the routine, to even things out.

Due to how you carry your fat. You lack muscle everywhere.

[NinaB55]

OP, he’s being sarcastic, not complimentary.

Like he said, you need to keep training your legs.

They are not as developed as you think, and are certainly not at a stage that you should consider not training them at all.

The picture is 6 months old. Agreed. But I doubt they’d have grown much since then. Especially since you were asking if you should stop training them 6 months ago when they were as shown in the pictures.

The legs in this picture are only just developing. They still need a LOT of work.

Keep training your full body, OP.

All the best.

[OldFartTom]

Google/YouTube "Every day is arm day Bradley Martin", do everything he says

Then you won't need to come and post questions here anymore

[TAWS6]

You must be able to squat 495 if you're legs are so strong.

[OnePoundFish00]

You must be able to squat 495 if you're legs are so strong.

Did I ever say my legs are strong?
Thank you

[WapanCakes]

You’re looking at this the wrong way OP, think long-term not short-term. Your legs might look big compared to your torso now. If you decide to neglect leg training, you are doing yourself a disservice in the future. One day you will realize that your upper body is disproportionate to your legs.

If you don’t care about proportions don’t train legs. There is no law dictating that you HAVE to train them. It is just that most people would prefer not to have chicken legs.

[grouchyjarhead]

You just need muscle, period. Follow a proven program and do exactly what it says. They have worked in the past, will continue to work, and will work for you. Do the work if you want the results. If you start making excuses now, you'll only have tons more later.

[Squid24]

yes in that thread I was talking about how they are bigger in proportion to my upper body, which is still the case now just that I am bigger overall. That's why I want to take out squats from the routine, to even things out.

Hmmmmmm???

You do any and all programs as written.

If your legs are perfect for you, then lift lighter weights, but that really isn't how the program is designed.

Again I say....

This was not mocking you...but yes, my 2nd pic kinda was

[adimeco]

Use your legs to your advantage as they are your best asset and they are responding best to your training. Blast the hell out of them and your whole body will grow and you will get powerful.

[sqal]

Since you can only put on 4 lbs of muscle per month, wouldn't it be beneficial to have it all on the upper body if you were seriously lacking there?

I often read about people complaining that their arms are falling behind during their training. Could it be that the bigger muscles like legs are just getting all the gains? Or do the smaller muscles like biceps/triceps just grow at a lackluster rate, so it's impossible to grow them at a faster rate than when on a full body routine?

I think I asked this question before, but never really got an answer other than 'follow the routine as written'.

[LactoseTolerant]

Since you can only put on 4 lbs of muscle per month, wouldn't it be beneficial to have it all on the upper body if you were seriously lacking there?

That's not how it works. If you neglect half your body, you cut your muscle growth in half. You don't shift growth potential from body part to body part.

[WolfRose7]

Since you can only put on 4 lbs of muscle per month, wouldn't it be beneficial to have it all on the upper body if you were seriously lacking there?

I often read about people complaining that their arms are falling behind during their training. Could it be that the bigger muscles like legs are just getting all the gains? Or do the smaller muscles like biceps/triceps just grow at a lackluster rate, so it's impossible to grow them at a faster rate than when on a full body routine?

I think I asked this question before, but never really got an answer other than 'follow the routine as written'.

What kind of magic fairyling of human biology are you living in?

Does muscle just come in lb packs and then you select where the lbs go?

[CommanderFun]

Train the legs, train everything else. The most effective programs are the ones that train all the important muscles, Bodies do not naturally develop with weird disparities. You're not going to get a big bench press just doing bench press. You're gonna stall, and stall fast. A lot of studies show that strength training as much of the musculature as you can naturally raises testosterone levels and aids with muscle growth and recovery. You might think your legs are "big enough", but unless you have some kind of prodigious squat numbers, odds are the size in your legs isn't from muscle, it's from fat. It happens. Most of my fat accumulates in the hips and legs too.

[SuffolkPunch]

Since you can only put on 4 lbs of muscle per month, wouldn't it be beneficial to have it all on the upper body if you were seriously lacking there?

I often read about people complaining that their arms are falling behind during their training. Could it be that the bigger muscles like legs are just getting all the gains? Or do the smaller muscles like biceps/triceps just grow at a lackluster rate, so it's impossible to grow them at a faster rate than when on a full body routine?

I think I asked this question before, but never really got an answer other than 'follow the routine as written'.

Muscle grows in proportion - so larger muscles (i.e. lower body) grow more in absolute terms. Your "4lbs a month" rule is not really a rule, probably just an observation someone made - and then probably for someone who is training their whole body.

Let's assume that is the case. In which case I would assume, the distribution to be something like 1.75lbs upper body 2.25lbs lower body.

So if you only trained upper, you would still only get 1.75lbs.

People who want to get shredded seem to totally miss the fact that high overall LBM makes that easier - and without looking like a skeleton - plus lower body training has more effect on your torso (below the midpoint) than upper body training does.

Avoiding legs is misguided and/or lazy, that's all there really is to it.