How much better would Western Society be without Rap Music????

[DirtyDon123]

Can't think of any positives that have come from it.

[Muzzlrpress]

Better in what way?

[bobthebuilder7]

I honestly think rap music causes behavioral issues within the urban communities

[Muzzlrpress]

I honestly think rap music causes behavioral issues within the urban communities

Cause? No

Show what problems exist? Yes

[SpeedMan1]

how else would get gifs like this

[hoganrulz]

not sure if srs

[hoganrulz]

I've thought about this question many times OP, as is pertains to me, especially.

When I was a baby I was a kind and loving person, then I went through years and years of that rough life, Runnin' crazed and wild as a kid and growin' tough with a knife, so much so, that I when I was a teenager, I'd began to live trife on the regular, buckin' out competitors, and if I saw 'em fake a move I would chase them down, Like the ****in' Predator. Get in trouble everyday in school, act a fool, so you know I had to break every rule.

Well.... here I am at 25 with 5 kids to 6 different baby mommas.

Ain't no body gonna keep me down tho' u heard'

But no one would ever know that I am like this, since I look like a typical dorky white guy.

they called christopher wallace, biggie smalls.

i bet they call you christopher wallace.

[sword_]

Depends. Something like these two are amazing.



I bleed liquid gold and slur speech in a cryptic code
My feet slipping on this twisted road
Only the mystic knows the lone figure in the distance
No bigger than the sum of his inscriptions
Or the extent of his conviction
I sip vitamin enriched liquid diction
And digest fiction for culture
I'm force fed prose, the monster
My head and neck connected by a bolt
Tryna hold things together like the skins I fold
And take my food for thought with a pinch of salt



As the night close down on the Earth like gray dark rings
Light of cities in the nights, destination for Kings
With big dreams, like Castro, overthrew Bautista
From Cuba, and pointed nukes toward the U.S
About to shoot us for revolution; that's how you gotta move
A lot of rules, some locked in solitude
Curse the day of they birth confused, who's to be praised?
The mighty dollar -- or almighty Allah


Or maybe....

[Quiggie]

I don't like any new rap but some of the old school stuff was pretty good.

[iabs]

Better yet, how much better would the African American community be without Rap and Hip Hop music?

[deft0nes]

i listen to a lot of rap music, but really it's "trap" styled rap with heavy 808 bass and crazy hi-hats. this new wave of hard sounding trap/rap music didn't start until like 2013. before that i was into oldschool boombap chit like Nas. really lyrical. or more vibe stuff like cypress hill. never got into 2000's ringtone hiphop that was more pop than rap, most of that stuff was mainstream garbage. the underground scene we have now is way better, it's dark and gritty and experimental.

i've always been into metal/rock music growing up, so if rap music stopped existing everyone would be into rock music again. or at least EDM like trance, techno, dub music which can be great at times. There was a period of like 10 years where i didn't listen to rap music and those were great times, but nowadays ppl have lost appreciation for music that isn't pop or rap influenced and that sucks, especially mainstream radio top 40 audience ... its wack. I don't think society would be "better off" without rap music, but ppl would be alot more appreciative of more diverse music.

[iabs]

dunno man

a lot of socially conscious hip hop comes from poverty areas is actually really inspiring to better yourself

then you got a lot of shoot em up bang bang stuff that just adds to the problem

then you got radio friendly stuff that just brags about how much money and hoes they have and induces spending on materialistic things

i dont think much would change since you find all these topics in other types of music

really?

could you care to post some examples?

[LegDayLol]

In on race bait thread

[IronILLinois]

sonnnnn. i am dissapoint.

[Muzzlrpress]

In on race bait thread

this.

[anonkunbrah]

Along with grunge music, it marked the end of the positivity of the 80s

[DirtyDon123]

In on race bait thread

Like there aren't millions of white rap fans...or white rappers...

You SJW types, everything is racist to you

[MiamiLife305]

I see where OP is coming from

You see it in a lot of youth dressing like these idiotic rappers and mimicing their speech patterns.

But the way I see it is, an idiot will be affected negatively by rap and if not by rap, he would still be an idiot and will be affected by something else.

If someone does not grow out of the glorifying hip hop/ rap phase then they were never going to amount much regardless of music

Don't really blame rap music much, in the end, its up the parents and the way they were raised.

[hoganrulz]

Along with grunge music, it marked the end of the positivity of the 80s

grunge music was basically the start of the emo culture which arguably evolved in to modern day sjws and cucks

[Reliance012]

MUCH MUCH better. Seriously.

The root of most problems in the US relates to these terrible cultural upbringings. They lead to glamorizing violence, drug use, fatherless households, etc. Hip hop, while not the sole contributor, is a main one perpetuating these ideas.

Instead these communities blame non-existent systemic racism for their problems, when they should be looking at Hollywood, music and our terrible public education systems.

[hoganrulz]

I see where OP is coming from

You see it in a lot of youth dressing like these idiotic rappers and mimicing their speech patterns.

But the way I see it is, an idiot will be affected negatively by rap and if not by rap, he would still be an idiot and will be affected by something else.

If someone does not grow out of the glorifying hip hop/ rap phase then they were never going to amount much regardless of music

Don't really blame rap music much, in the end, its up the parents and the way they were raised.

MUCH MUCH better. Seriously.

The root of most problems in the US are these terrible cultural upbringings. They lead to glamorizing violence, drug use, fatherless households, etc. Hip hop, while not the sole contributor, is a main one perpetuating these ideas.

Instead these communities blame non-existent systemic racism for their problems, when they should be looking at Hollywood, music and our terrible public education systems.

lets be serious for a second, how many parents are actually following the ''parental advisory'' stickers on the cd's when in comes to rap? pretty sure there arent 18 year olds listening to a 2pac song and then going out to shoot police. point being, its more a parenting issue than hurr durr rap is poisoning our childrens minds, since, children arent supposed to be listening to it in the first place.

Rap doesn't exist anymore. It was awesome while it lasted though

this as well. rip.

[MiamiLife305]

lets be serious for a second, how many parents are actually following the ''parental advisory'' stickers on the cd's when in comes to rap? pretty sure there arent 18 year olds listening to a 2pac song and then going out to shoot police. point being, its more a parenting issue than hurr durr rap is poisoning our childrens minds, since, children arent supposed to be listening to it in the first place.

Well yeah, I just said that

[iabs]

In on race bait thread

this.

Like there aren't millions of white rap fans...or white rappers...

You SJW types, everything is racist to you

lol everything is indeed racist nowadays. Much offended, muh feelings. I don't like your facts.

hardcore is mostly anti government and fighting what oppresses you

deathmetal/thrash is mostly about war and violence

grunge is about oppression

pop is about good times

Did you just say Death Metal is equivalent to Hip Hop's message??

lol oooooook...

[sword_]

I love hip-hop BTW. I think there are positive and negative aspects to it, but that's with any art.

The fact is that gangsta rap was brought to the forefront of the music industry in the early 90s. You all forget how uplifting and thoughtful songs from The Fugees, De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, Nas, etc. were and go straight to gangsta rap as a reflection of all hip-hop. It is intellectually dishonest TBH.

[sg1976]

I've thought about this question many times OP, as is pertains to me, especially.

When I was a baby I was a kind and loving person, then I went through years and years of that rough life, Runnin' crazed and wild as a kid and growin' tough with a knife, so much so, that I when I was a teenager, I'd began to live trife on the regular, buckin' out competitors, and if I saw 'em fake a move I would chase them down, Like the ****in' Predator. Get in trouble everyday in school, act a fool, so you know I had to break every rule.

Well.... here I am at 25 with 5 kids to 6 different baby mommas.

Ain't no body gonna keep me down tho' u heard'

But no one would ever know that I am like this, since I look like a typical dorky white guy.

It needs to be broken down in British brah.

Let me tell you a story OP

Here we go
Once upon a time not long ago
When people wore pajamas and lived life slow
When laws were stern and justice stood
And people were behavin' like they ought ta good
There lived a lil' boy who was misled
By anotha lil' boy and this is what he said
"Me, Ya, Ty, we gonna make sum cash
Robbin' old folks and makin' tha dash"
They did the job, money came with ease
But one couldn't stop, it's like he had a disease
He robbed another and another and a sista and her brotha
Tried to rob a man who was a D.T. undercover
The cop grabbed his arm, he started acting erratic
He said "Keep still, boy, no need for static"
Punched him in his belly and he gave him a slap
But little did he know the lil' boy was strapped
The kid pulled out a gun, he said "Why did ya hit me ?"
The barrel was set straight for the cop's kidney
The cop got scared, the kid, he starts to figure
"I'll do years if I pull this trigga"
So he cold dashed and ran around the block
Cop radioes it to another lady cop
He ran by a tree, there he saw this sista
A shot for the head, he shot back but he missed her
Looked around good and from expectations
So he decided he'd head for the subway stations
But she was coming and he made a left
He was runnin' top speed till he was outta breath
Knocked an old man down and swore he killed him
Then he made his move to an abandoned building
Ran up the stairs up to the top floor
Opened up the door there, guess who he saw?
Dave the dope fiend shootin' dope
Who don't know the meaning of water nor soap
He said "I need bullets, hurry up, run!"
The dope fiend brought back a spanking shotgun
He went outside but there was cops all over
Then he dipped into a car, a stolen Nova (?)
Raced up the block doing 83
Crashed into a tree near university
Escaped alive though the car was battered
Rat-a-tat-tatted and all the cops scattered
Ran out of bullets and still had static
Grabbed a pregnant lady and out the automatic
Pointed at her head and he said the gun was full o' lead
He told the cops "Back off or honey here's dead"
Deep in his heart he knew he was wrong
So he let the lady go and he starts to run on
Sirens sounded, he seemed astounded
Before long the lil' boy got surrounded
He dropped the gun, so went the glory
And this is the way I have end this story
He was only seventeen, in a madman's dream
The cops shot the kid, I still hear him scream
This ain't funny so don't ya dare laugh
Just another case 'bout the wrong path,
Straight 'n narrow or yo' soul gets cast(

[Muzzlrpress]

lets be serious for a second, how many parents are actually following the ''parental advisory'' stickers on the cd's when in comes to rap? pretty sure there arent 18 year olds listening to a 2pac song and then going out to shoot police. point being, its more a parenting issue than hurr durr rap is poisoning our childrens minds, since, children arent supposed to be listening to it in the first place.



this as well. rip.

This. It always goes back to parenting. You think somebody raised in a well adjusted two parent household is gonna be inspired to go shoot people because of a song they heard? Fukkin lol. I've seen terrible parents firsthand, and it doesn't have chit to do with musical preference.

lol everything is indeed racist nowadays. Much offended, muh feelings. I don't like your facts.



Did you just say Death Metal is equivalent to Hip Hop's message??

lol oooooook...

Not a single fact was posted ITT

[propreffered7]

I personally dont think eliminating any weakness would result in "better" anything

All youd do is narrow the competition and in turn create new competition

And im using that as a broad rule for everything, not just music

Anything "masterrace" wouldnt work, youd just effectively eliminate "masterrace"

[ThaJerzeyDevil]

is rap music code for black people?

[Reliance012]

This. It always goes back to parenting. You think somebody raised in a well adjusted two parent household is gonna be inspired to go shoot people because of a song they heard? Fukkin lol. I've seen terrible parents firsthand, and it doesn't have chit to do with musical preference.
Not a single fact was posted ITT

Which begs the question... WHY is the parenting so bad? What leads to such bad parenting in particular communities relative others? That’s the point here.

And I’m not trying to put words in your mouth, but most people put blame on some sort of systemic racism which leads to poverty/crime/ and a inevitably a general culture of bad parenting and upbringing. The only problem is supporting evidence for view is completely absent. So again, what is the root cause of the problem?

[hoganrulz]

Which begs the question... WHY is the parenting so bad? What leads to such bad parenting in particular communities relative others? That’s the point here.

And I’m not trying to put words in your mouth, but most people put blame on some sort of systemic racism which leads to poverty/crime/ and a inevitably a general culture of bad parenting and upbringing. The only problem is supporting evidence for view is completely absent. So again, what is the root cause of the problem?

Education.